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If it was truly the old Snyder he would have traded the farm for Haskins, so at least he learned from that perspective. I can't wait to hear that Vinny interview.

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[quote=MTK;1223581]If it was truly the old Snyder he would have traded the farm for Haskins, so at least he learned from that perspective. I can't wait to hear that Vinny interview.[/quote]

Vinny interview has a ton of great quotes already. Anybody who has listened to Vinny before..the guy doesn't hold back and seems very honest in his answers.

The best is under the context of Snyder picking Haskins, Vinny says "if it doesn't work out, it will never be the owner's fault. That's part of the (GM) job, but Snyder will not take the blame for Haskins nor Sweat if it doesn't work out."

Yes your right on the not moving up part, Vinny commented this, "[B]knowing Dan, he probably made calls to move up for Haskins because it takes a lot for Dan to "sit still"."[/B]

freaking hilarious, because Vinny honestly describes Dan within the image all the fans picture him as

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[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-how-nfl-teams-should-use-the-skill-sets-of-each-rookie-qb[/url]

Haskins comes into the league in a similar position to Jones in that there is a veteran quarterback with starting experience that stands between him and an immediate path to the top spot on the depth chart. Case Keenum will likely get the starter reps to start the offseason, but given Haskins’ first-round pedigree and Keenum’s shaky play in Denver last season, there’s a decent chance Haskins will take the field as the starter at some point this season.

Haskins was our second-ranked quarterback heading into the draft, behind just Kyler Murray. As Steve Palazzolo broke down in Haskins’ pre-draft evaluation, though, he is not quite in the same tier as Murray in that his success at the next level will likely be dependent on his supporting cast. One area that is paramount is pass protection, as perhaps more than anyone else at the top of the class, Haskins is dependent on a clean pocket to succeed.

His clean-pocket passing grade of 90.4 dropped to 56.7 when pressure got home. Part of that clean-pocket performance was due to how good he was when navigating to his second read, where his 91.5 passing grade on those throws led all quarterback prospects. If the pressure gets home, there is less time for Haskins to hang in the pocket and progress through his reads. Clean pocket quarterback play is stable year to year, and Haskins has shown himself to be among the best in the class when working without pressure. It seems obvious, but the Redskins need to make sure he’s given that clean pocket in order to maximize the play from their first-round selection.

Another area where Haskins excelled when at Ohio State was in play action. He completed 81 of his 122 play-action attempts for 1,351 yards, 17 touchdowns, and just two interceptions. Among 120 FBS quarterbacks with at least 50 play-action attempts in 2018, Haskins’s passer rating of 136.3 on such throws ranked second behind only Tua Tagovailoa.

Play action wasn’t a large part of the repertoire for the Redskins last season, as Alex Smith used play action on only 21.4% of his dropbacks before his injury (22nd out of 32 qualifying quarterbacks). On those play-action attempts, he saw his completion percentage drop 4.3% from when he didn’t use play action, but his yards per attempt jumped from 6.3 to 8.2 yards per attempt.

Among the league-leading offenses in play action rate were the Los Angeles Rams, New England Patriots, and Kansas City Chiefs. Play action has proven to be effective leaguewide, and the league’s best offenses are taking advantage. The Redskins should do the same with Haskins.

Lastly, it should be noted that Haskins is reunited with Ohio State teammate Terry McLaurin in Washington, and it is hard to get much better than that duo was last season. When targeting McLaurin, Haskins went 34-of- 48 for 650 yards, ten touchdowns and no interceptions, good for a passer rating of 152.8. The Redskins will be hoping that connection continues to yield similar results in the NFL.

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Start him day one. If I have to watch Case or Colt I'll probably slit my wrists.

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[quote=Chico23231;1223582]Vinny interview has a ton of great quotes already. Anybody who has listened to Vinny before..the guy doesn't hold back and seems very honest in his answers.

The best is under the context of Snyder picking Haskins, Vinny says "if it doesn't work out, it will never be the owner's fault. That's part of the (GM) job, but Snyder will not take the blame for Haskins nor Sweat if it doesn't work out."

Yes your right on the not moving up part, Vinny commented this, "[B]knowing Dan, he probably made calls to move up for Haskins because it takes a lot for Dan to "sit still"."[/B]

freaking hilarious, because Vinny honestly describes Dan within the image all the fans picture him as[/quote]

I was hoping he would open up more about the decision to hire Zorn as HC. Maybe he didn't want to admit it was a shit show of a decision.

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I was working while listening and kinda drifted, but I think Vinny said he has no clue how Bruce Allen still has a job. Or something to that effect.

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Haskins looked great today , yes it's mini camp but still

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1223580]I stated this before, but Gruden was able to make the case of Cousins over RG3 which lead them to a playoff birth 2015. So that to me is significant...



But we know many have said, after the embarrassing last year with the ratings and home games.... Snyder may have told Bruce his strategy isn't working...we need blue chippers. So Old Snyder could be rearing its ugly head again.



We will see, but I cant simply say he has learned...yet.





Oh god, Vinny in the Sheenhans podcast says "Dan did a good job with his evaluations of Haskins and made a good pick"....Vinny said he really liked Haskins. damn[/QUOTE]I didn't see your Vinny post before posting about it in the other thread.

Dude is truly any all time idiot with a better record that Bruce.

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-qb-dwayne-haskins-getting-brand-new-bentley[/url]

The emblems on the seats are his personal brand logo.

At least he's grounded.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223600][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-qb-dwayne-haskins-getting-brand-new-bentley[/url]

The emblems on the seats are his personal brand logo.

At least he's grounded.

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:puke:

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[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-insider-predicts-dwayne-haskins-to-win-redskins-qb-job[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1223592]Start him day one. If I have to watch Case or Colt I'll probably slit my wrists.[/quote]

I don't know. The young man only has 14 college starts under his belt and the Redskins will have new offensive lineman that need to work together to form a cohesive unit. Pitching him into the fire before he is not near ready could kill his confidence and or get him hurt. He will have to adapt to the speed of the NFL game and the complexity of NFL defenses.

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I'm really curious about how close Dan and Haskins are.

Sheehan said he was told by people in the organization RG3 would tell assistant coaches he was dining with the owner later and would put in a good word for them.

Really hoping Dan has learned his lesson.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1223608]I'm really curious about how close Dan and Haskins are.

Sheehan said he was told by people in the organization RG3 would tell assistant coaches he was dining with the owner later and would put in a good word for them.

Really hoping Dan has learned his lesson.

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That’s nauseating. RG3 must have been reviled by the end. I bet those same coaches reveled at his getting benched.



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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223608][B]I'm really curious about how close Dan and Haskins are.[/B]

Sheehan said he was told by people in the organization RG3 would tell assistant coaches he was dining with the owner later and would put in a good word for them.

Really hoping Dan has learned his lesson.

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I would hope they're not close at all. Dan needs to step the fuck off.

I saw an opinion/article today that said Haskins is ready to be a leader on this team. Kid literally has no clue, not one ounce of an idea of how hard the NFL really is and he's ready to lead an entire team? I fucking hope not.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223608]I'm really curious about how close Dan and Haskins are.

Sheehan said he was told by people in the organization RG3 would tell assistant coaches he was dining with the owner later and would put in a good word for them.

Really hoping Dan has learned his lesson.

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I heard all kinds of stories listening to local sports talk about how Dan gave RG3 and his family access to facilities and perks the other players did not get, which drove a wedge between him and his teammates. It was also said RG3 had a habit of letting everyone know he was Dan's favorite.

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[quote=mooby;1223628]I would hope they're not close at all. Dan needs to step the fuck off.

I saw an opinion/article today that said Haskins is ready to be a leader on this team. Kid literally has no clue, not one ounce of an idea of how hard the NFL really is and he's ready to lead an entire team? I fucking hope not.[/quote]

What difference does it make if they are close? All Haskins as to do is perform. That is the only thing we should be concerned about. Whether or not him and the owner are buddies is totally irrelevant. Is he mastering the playbook? Is he working on his craft? Is he showing up on game day? These are the things that matter. Not some made up controversy by the Washington sports media.

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You guys are overthinking this way too much. Haskins was the best QB on our board after Murray, that's why he was picked at 15.

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1223631]What difference does it make if they are close? All Haskins as to do is perform. That is the only thing we should be concerned about. Whether or not him and the owner are buddies is totally irrelevant. Is he mastering the playbook? Is he working on his craft? Is he showing up on game day? These are the things that matter. Not some made up controversy by the Washington sports media.[/QUOTE]Have you never had a boss who had a clear favorite? IF he plays at a high level and DS stays on the sideline it is not an issue. BUT the RG3 /KC drama is recent enough that we do not know that Snyder learned the lessons from that. I hope he did, but his infatuation with players has been well documented throughout his ownership.

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[quote=httr198020;1223631]What difference does it make if they are close? All Haskins as to do is perform. That is the only thing we should be concerned about. Whether or not him and the owner are buddies is totally irrelevant. Is he mastering the playbook? Is he working on his craft? Is he showing up on game day? These are the things that matter. Not some made up controversy by the Washington sports media.[/quote]

It absolutely makes a difference.

It means if Haskins ever has a disagreement with Gruden, he can walk past Gruden's office and take his beef to Dan. It means it can undermine the respect other players have for Haskins if they know he's bff's with Dan.

The only player the quarterback needs to have a good relationship with is his coaches, as they are the ones who are going to put him in position to succeed. Not Doug Williams, not Bruce Allen, and especially not Dan Snyder.

Did you literally learn nothing from the RG3 fiasco?

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[quote=httr198020;1223631]What difference does it make if they are close? All Haskins as to do is perform. That is the only thing we should be concerned about. Whether or not him and the owner are buddies is totally irrelevant. Is he mastering the playbook? Is he working on his craft? Is he showing up on game day? These are the things that matter. Not some made up controversy by the Washington sports media.[/quote]


[quote=mooby;1223637]It absolutely makes a difference.

It means if Haskins ever has a disagreement with Gruden, he can walk past Gruden's office and take his beef to Dan. It means it can undermine the respect other players have for Haskins if they know he's bff's with Dan.

The only player the quarterback needs to have a good relationship with is his coaches, as they are the ones who are going to put him in position to succeed. Not Doug Williams, not Bruce Allen, and especially not Dan Snyder.

Did you literally learn nothing from the RG3 fiasco?[/quote]

Exactly! About the dumbest thing an owner can do is make the quarterback the teacher's pet.

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It's pretty simple: Owners should do ownership things, management should do management things, coaches should do coaching things, and players should do player things (accept coaching and execute the coaches plays/calls on the field).

If any of these things mix together, it's not good. A successful business needs structure/chain of command. A broken chain is a broken business/team.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1223632]You guys are overthinking this way too much. Haskins was the best QB on our board after Murray, that's why he was picked at 15.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Have you seen the board?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1223634]Have you never had a boss who had a clear favorite? IF he plays at a high level and DS stays on the sideline it is not an issue. BUT the RG3 /KC drama is recent enough that we do not know that Snyder learned the lessons from that. I hope he did, but his infatuation with players has been well documented throughout his ownership.

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If Dwayne Haskins plays at a high level it doesn't matter if he has a good relationship, bad relationship, or no relationship at all with the owner. His relationship with the owner will have nothing to do with his success or the success of the team. RG3 didn't suck because of his relationship with DS. MS didn't get fired because of RG3 relationship with DS. Both of them are gone because they weren't good at their jobs.

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1223644]If Dwayne Haskins plays at a high level it doesn't matter if he has a good relationship, bad relationship, or no relationship at all with the owner. His relationship with the owner will have nothing to do with his success or the success of the team. RG3 didn't suck because of his relationship with DS. MS didn't get fired because of RG3 relationship with DS. Both of them are gone because they weren't good at their jobs.[/QUOTE]You make the hopeful assertion that Haskins plays at a high level. But at some point regardless of his abilities he will struggle and have to abide the coach's frustrations. If Haskins (the coaches, or other players) feels a special relation exists outside of the coach player one, it can poison the team. We as Skins fans have seen that scenario repeatedly played out with Snyder and "his player".

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1223644]If Dwayne Haskins plays at a high level it doesn't matter if he has a good relationship, bad relationship, or no relationship at all with the owner. His relationship with the owner will have nothing to do with his success or the success of the team. RG3 didn't suck because of his relationship with DS. MS didn't get fired because of RG3 relationship with DS. Both of them are gone because they weren't good at their jobs.[/QUOTE] Yea, actually he did.

The owner empowered him to walk into Shanahan's office at the beginning of his second year and state emphatically he wasn't running certain plays anymore.

The plays he would no longer run were the ones he was best at.

They were the ones which got Pierre open by 8 yards.

The owner allowed him to be the offensive game planner only because of their relationship.

I really can't tell if you're serious or hard core trolling because it's so obvious.

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Kirk would have had unbelievable numbers in Shanahan's zone run system.

He was fired because Dan wanted a coach to develop RG3. Shanahan knew he couldn't turn him into a pocket passer which is exactly what Dan and Robert wanted to happen.

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[quote=mooby;1223637]It absolutely makes a difference.

It means if Haskins ever has a disagreement with Gruden, he can walk past Gruden's office and take his beef to Dan. It means it can undermine the respect other players have for Haskins if they know he's bff's with Dan.

The only player the quarterback needs to have a good relationship with is his coaches, as they are the ones who are going to put him in position to succeed. Not Doug Williams, not Bruce Allen, and especially not Dan Snyder.

Did you literally learn nothing from the RG3 fiasco?[/quote] It makes no differences.

What you're doing here is creating a hypothetical to push your false narrative. Is there any verifiable evidence that Haskins and Jay Gruden don't get along? Unless you have some evidence of that then your "what ifs" are totally irrelevant. And if we got players who are ass hurt that Haskins "might" have a good relationship with the owner. Then tells me too things:

1) We have a weak ass locker room filled with a bunch of soy boys who's more focus on shit that doesn't matter instead of doing their job. We might need to replace those gossiping little girls with real men who realize they got a job to do.

2) The HC is totally incompetent and should be fired. If the qb having a good relationship with the owner can fracture your locker room then you are a total failure as a coach and your locker room needs to broken down and rebuilt.

Don't take this the wrong way. But I find it odd that you think you can tell someone who that need to have a good relationship with and who that can't. Dwayne Haskins can have a good relationship with whoever he wants. If he wants to befriend DS he is free to do that. If he dislikes Jay Gruden. That is his business. He can build a relationship with whomever he likes. As long as he shows up on game day it doesn't matter who he's friends with. It doesn't matter who likes him personally or doesn't like him. The only thing we should be concerned about is his performance. His performance is going to be determined by his work ethic and not his relationship with the owner or the front office.

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[quote=httr198020;1223648]2) The HC is totally incompetent and should be fired. If the qb having a good relationship with the owner can fracture your locker room then you are a total failure as a coach and your locker room needs to broken down and rebuilt.[/quote]

Well it did happen in 2013. And the coach wasn't incompetent or a failure, he has two super bowl rings.

You're sticking up for Haskins when the concern is really about Dan. Any player's natural reaction is to reciprocate if the owner befriends him.

All of the blame for 2013 is with Dan and his enabling of Robert.

Nobody is saying or reporting anything is going on between Haskins and Dan. There are insinuations that Dan has some sort of special interest in Haskins, or relationship with Haskins.

It could be a problem if a player has more power than is healthy for the situation. Rodgers' and Brady's power dynamic is and should be different than Rosen's and Dalton's. The owner is the one person who can screw it all up.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1223645]You make the hopeful assertion that Haskins plays at a high level. But at some point regardless of his abilities he will struggle and have to abide the coach's frustrations. If Haskins (the coaches, or other players) feels a special relation exists outside of the coach player one, it can poison the team. We as Skins fans have seen that scenario repeatedly played out with Snyder and "his player".

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote] When did I make any assertions? I said "If Dwayne Haskins plays at a high level." That is hardly an assertion. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm concerned with any of these players or the coaches punk ass feelings. If our success or failure rate depends on the players or coaches feelings then we might as well start rebuilding right now. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what any of them feel they still got a job to do. No matter what the coaches think of Haskins I fully expect them to work with him and help him become the best he can be. Regardless of what Haskins thinks of the coaches or the scheme he has a responsibility to the team to execute the offense to the best of his abilities. The same thing goes for every player on this team.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223649]Well it did happen in 2013. And the coach wasn't incompetent or a failure, he has two super bowl rings.

You're sticking up for Haskins when the concern is really about Dan. Any player's natural reaction is to reciprocate if the owner befriends him.

All of the blame for 2013 is with Dan and his enabling of Robert.

Nobody is saying or reporting anything is going on between Haskins and Dan. There are insinuations that Dan has some sort of special interest in Haskins, or relationship with Haskins.

It could be a problem if a player has more power than is healthy for the situation. Rodgers' and Brady's power dynamic is and should be different than Rosen's and Dalton's. The owner is the one person who can screw it all up.[/quote]
You are absolutely right. I can't argue with that. All I'm saying lets worry about problems with they occur. Right now Dan is not an issue.

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[quote=httr198020;1223648]It makes no differences.

What you're doing here is creating a hypothetical to push your false narrative. Is there any verifiable evidence that Haskins and Jay Gruden don't get along? Unless you have some evidence of that then your "what ifs" are totally irrelevant. And if we got players who are ass hurt that Haskins "might" have a good relationship with the owner. Then tells me too things:

1) We have a weak ass locker room filled with a bunch of soy boys who's more focus on shit that doesn't matter instead of doing their job. We might need to replace those gossiping little girls with real men who realize they got a job to do.

2) The HC is totally incompetent and should be fired. If the qb having a good relationship with the owner can fracture your locker room then you are a total failure as a coach and your locker room needs to broken down and rebuilt.

Don't take this the wrong way. But I find it odd that you think you can tell someone who that need to have a good relationship with and who that can't. Dwayne Haskins can have a good relationship with whoever he wants. If he wants to befriend DS he is free to do that. If he dislikes Jay Gruden. That is his business. He can build a relationship with whomever he likes. As long as he shows up on game day it doesn't matter who he's friends with. It doesn't matter who likes him personally or doesn't like him. The only thing we should be concerned about is his performance. His performance is going to be determined by his work ethic and not his relationship with the owner or the front office.[/quote]

A hypothetical? RG3 is an exact example of how a qb befriending an owner can lead to dysfunction. That literally already happened to this team already. I'm not even putting this on Haskins, it's on Dan to stay back. And there is no verifiable evidence Haskins and Gruden don't like each other, because they've been working together for[I] two fucking weeks![/I].

When Haskins inevitably (because if you know anything about the NFL, you'd know disagreements between a coach and qb are bound to happen) gets into an argument with Gruden, I don't want Haskins feeling like he can run to the owner to complain. Gruden, and by extension all of his coaches, are the only ones who are going to put Haskins in position to succeed. Don't take this the wrong way but you're acting like we're not the Redskins, and we didn't already do this once in recent history, and the concerns here are not justifiable. We already have a fairly good idea of the hard-on Snyder has for Haskins, he needs to seek a doctor because the 4 hours has passed already.

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Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks"]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks[/URL]

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[quote=Kope;1223656]Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks"]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks[/URL][/quote]

PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.

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[quote=Kope;1223656]Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks"]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dwayne-haskins-jay-gruden-washington-redskins-doug-baldwin-kam-chancellor-seahawks[/URL][/quote]

Great read, thanks for sharing.. I did find one small detail interesting - Gruden spoke as if he will be Redskins coach for years to come when he talked about Haskins. I'm really glad Gruden has that mindset. While I'm not biggest fan of Gruden, he did a great job of righting Redskins ship after he became Redskins coach and because of that he will always have my respect. It would be a great story if Haskins help Gruden save his job, I only hope Gruden will focus on coaching entire team and let O'Connell do his work with offense this year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1223657]PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. [B]Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.[/B][/quote]

I actually believe there's a good chance of this.. Redskins is building a great defense (on paper) and we have a good RBs group, this definitely will help Haskins or Keenum greatly this year.

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I have to question something I read in that MMQB article... “Watched every game, every throw that they made, how they handled themselves under pressure,” Gruden said. Probably one of the primary question marks on Haskins coming into the NFL is his ability to play under pressure from a defense. He's excellent when getting through his progressions but awful when forced to make a quick read and get the ball out. I love the idea that Haskins was the guy the whole time, but don't BS me.. If Gruden was specifically targeting a QB who handles himself so well under pressure, I'm not sure Haskins is the guy you're going after. Also.. “They’re all pretty confident kids, bright-eyed. I was impressed with the entire class,” Gruden said. “But [Haskins] has a demeanor and aura about him, kind of similar to Cam Newton coming out, just an aura of confidence." WTF, Cam Newton looked like a man among boys. Haskins does not, at this point, have the confidence Cam Newton had coming into the league. I'm optimistic about Haskins but this article sounds like a lot of revisionist history BS to me..

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^^ Unless you've talked to him how do you know what his confidence is like??

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[quote=mooby;1223655]A hypothetical? RG3 is an exact example of how a qb befriending an owner can lead to dysfunction. That literally already happened to this team already. I'm not even putting this on Haskins, it's on Dan to stay back. And there is no verifiable evidence Haskins and Gruden don't like each other, because they've been working together for[I] two fucking weeks![/I].

When Haskins inevitably (because if you know anything about the NFL, you'd know disagreements between a coach and qb are bound to happen) gets into an argument with Gruden, I don't want Haskins feeling like he can run to the owner to complain. Gruden, and by extension all of his coaches, are the only ones who are going to put Haskins in position to succeed. Don't take this the wrong way but you're acting like we're not the Redskins, and we didn't already do this once in recent history, and the concerns here are not justifiable. We already have a fairly good idea of the hard-on Snyder has for Haskins, he needs to seek a doctor because the 4 hours has passed already.[/quote]

Here's an interesting question. How much did Snyder's preferential treatment of RG3 play into Cousin's not wanting to be a Redskin?