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/theydidthemath

[url]https://www.alextheanalyst.com/bruce-allen-worst-gm-this-decade/[/url]

Bruce Allen is officially the worst longest-tenured GM who has been with the same team since 2010 (in all 4 major leagues).

24 GM's total, only 3 with losing records.

Bruce Allen, Redskins, .397 winning percentage, 2 playoff appearances no wins
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Royals, .468 winning percentage, 1 World Series title (2015)
Duke Tobin, Cincinnati Bengals, .490 winning percentage, 5 consecutive playoff berths (2011-2015)

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[quote=mooby;1239094]/theydidthemath

[url]https://www.alextheanalyst.com/bruce-allen-worst-gm-this-decade/[/url]

Bruce Allen is officially the worst longest-tenured GM who has been with the same team since 2010 (in all 4 major leagues).

24 GM's total, only 3 with losing records.

Bruce Allen, Redskins, .397 winning percentage, 2 playoff appearances no wins
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Royals, .468 winning percentage, 1 World Series title (2015)
Duke Tobin, Cincinnati Bengals, .490 winning percentage, 5 consecutive playoff berths (2011-2015)[/quote]

Damn lol

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[quote=mooby;1239094]/theydidthemath

[url]https://www.alextheanalyst.com/bruce-allen-worst-gm-this-decade/[/url]

Bruce Allen is officially the worst longest-tenured GM who has been with the same team since 2010 (in all 4 major leagues).

24 GM's total, only 3 with losing records.

Bruce Allen, Redskins, .397 winning percentage, 2 playoff appearances no wins
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Royals, .468 winning percentage, 1 World Series title (2015)
Duke Tobin, Cincinnati Bengals, .490 winning percentage, 5 consecutive playoff berths (2011-2015)[/quote]

Somebody has to be last.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

we're close, though. .......................

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[QUOTE=Meks;1239106]we're close, though. .......................[/QUOTE]With a damn good culture.

I wonder why Bruce kept Gruden though. He must have known his job was next on the totem pole, he could have bought himself 2 more years minimum with a new coaching staff last year, and no one in the NFL or us fans would have questioned letting Gruden go.

Just an odd thing for Bruce to do.

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[quote=mooby;1239094]/theydidthemath

[url]https://www.alextheanalyst.com/bruce-allen-worst-gm-this-decade/[/url]

Bruce Allen is officially the worst longest-tenured GM who has been with the same team since 2010 (in all 4 major leagues).

24 GM's total, only 3 with losing records.

Bruce Allen, Redskins, .397 winning percentage, 2 playoff appearances no wins
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Royals, .468 winning percentage, 1 World Series title (2015)
Duke Tobin, Cincinnati Bengals, .490 winning percentage, 5 consecutive playoff berths (2011-2015)[/quote]

This is so pathetic...less than .400 win percentage and here a decade. How in the world could this ever be sold to me as "ok" in my life time of Skins fandom? man...

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1239107]With a damn good culture.

[B]I wonder why Bruce kept Gruden though.[/B] He must have known his job was next on the totem pole, he could have bought himself 2 more years minimum with a new coaching staff last year, and no one in the NFL or us fans would have questioned letting Gruden go.

Just an odd thing for Bruce to do.

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In his twisted mind, he probably thought Gruden would be the scapegoat.

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When and if Allen's fired I wonder if Snyder has any fucking balls to come out of his hole and face the media, say something to the fans..

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1239087]Extremely intelligent dude, obviously we know how talented he was as a player and he is very well respected by everyone he's worked for. I don't think its a far fetch that Smith becomes the GM or in some kind of role in the front office and then brings Eric Bieniemy in as HC.[/quote]

I am going respectfully disagree. I think AS is smart but you really need a seasoned vet GM here to step in and right a horribly tilted ship. Who that is and if they ever come here is the question.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

Getting worried...got to bet rid of BA now before all the good potential HC'S* are hired. The work is out...any good prospects don't want to come here with BA running the show.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1239112]In his twisted mind, he probably thought Gruden would be the scapegoat.[/quote]

Consider who the boss is and it ain't that twisted

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=harriet33;1239123]Getting worried...got to bet rid of BA now before all the good potential HC'S* are hired. The work is out...any good prospects don't want to come here with BA running the show.[/quote]

I want to go back and read my 10th post for curiosities sake. The statistics feature has been disabled for a while. Any other way to go back and read all your own posts?

Also, welcome Harriet33! HTTR!

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I've seen the rumors about Bienemy and the Alex Smith connection, and I gotta say I'm warming up to the idea (though not with Smith as GM).

The Andy Reid coaching tree has been everything the Bill B. coaching tree hasn't. Not one of Bill B's former assistants has gone on to major success in the NFL. Reid has a pedigree of bringing in coaches who are good motivators and educators.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/12/bill-belichick-may-be-nfls-best-modern-coach-andy-reid-is-its-most-influential/[/url]

All this ignores the fact the next GM will be the most crucial step we will take. If Dan fails on that we will be doomed no matter who the coach is.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=mooby;1239131]I've seen the rumors about Bienemy and the Alex Smith connection, and I gotta say I'm warming up to the idea (though not with Smith as GM).

The Andy Reid coaching tree has been everything the Bill B. coaching tree hasn't. Not one of Bill B's former assistants has gone on to major success in the NFL. Reid has a pedigree of bringing in coaches who are good motivators and educators.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/12/bill-belichick-may-be-nfls-best-modern-coach-andy-reid-is-its-most-influential/[/url]

All this ignores the fact the next GM will be the most crucial step we will take. If Dan fails on that we will be doomed no matter who the coach is.[/quote]

And none of this matters as long as Bruce is still here. HE NEEDS to GO!

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/deangelo-hall-wants-rejoin-redskins-time-front-office?fbclid=IwAR2dIYwrAR7NQzgZCDck0yp0WwXG9YxeRreGJ2qoziY7JU5Dathsg-ztykA[/url]

DHALL wants in on the rebuild

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239135][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/deangelo-hall-wants-rejoin-redskins-time-front-office?fbclid=IwAR2dIYwrAR7NQzgZCDck0yp0WwXG9YxeRreGJ2qoziY7JU5Dathsg-ztykA[/url]

DHALL wants in on the rebuild[/quote]

I wouldn't oppose to this although I think I prefer for him to earn his way up to GM or any big position. It's good to know Hall made positive impact on our CBs, especially Dunbar.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

the less ex redskins in the building, the better.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

Who from the Redskins is putting out feelers for the HC?

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1239142]Who from the Redskins is putting out feelers for the HC?[/quote]

Always have someone leaking info.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

League meetings end today. Bruce's firing needs to happen sooner rather than later.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1239145]League meetings end today. Bruce's firing needs to happen sooner rather than later.

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[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/3056/2563971043_8b5340a219_b.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

I knew it was too good to be true.

He's probably shaving Snyder's back as we speak.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=los panda;1239148]I knew it was too good to be true.

He's probably shaving Snyder's back as we speak.[/quote]

Is that what they are calling it now. Didn't know you could shave the back while on your knees...

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=los panda;1239148]I knew it was too good to be true.

He's probably shaving Snyder's back as we speak.[/quote]

Miister Allen... you are... quite good... at tur-ning... me on.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/bruce-allen-could-be-in-last-week-with-redskins[/url]

It’s all I want for Christmas Santa!

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

Bruce isn't going anywhere guys. There was a made up story about things being red hot after the GB loss, that was 100% BS. Then guys like Chris Russell was bordering on clickbait posts like "Bruce was heard saying goodbye to folks at the offices", and when someone questioned him about it, he later said that he misspoke as he was going from information that he had heard from someone who heard it from someone else that knew someone inside Redskins park.

All of the reporters should be ashamed of themselves for forwarding on garbage and obviously 100% false and inaccurate news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. We've been hearing from these so called "sources" for the past two years now how Bruce is on the hot seat.

We should know better by now, that Bruce isn't going anywhere.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1239181]Bruce isn't going anywhere guys. There was a made up story about things being red hot after the GB loss, that was 100% BS. Then guys like Chris Russell was bordering on clickbait posts like "Bruce was heard saying goodbye to folks at the offices", and when someone questioned him about it, he later said that he misspoke as he was going from information that he had heard from someone who heard it from someone else that knew someone inside Redskins park.

All of the reporters should be ashamed of themselves for forwarding on garbage and obviously 100% false and inaccurate news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. We've been hearing from these so called "sources" for the past two years now how Bruce is on the hot seat.

We should know better by now, that Bruce isn't going anywhere.[/quote]


I believe he will be let go, I think Dan has got to realize by now that his methods do not work for a winning culture.. I'm not a big fan of handing the GM spot over to a former player either but they may have no choice.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1239182]I believe he will be let go, I think Dan has got to realize by now that his methods do not work for a winning culture..[B] I'm not a big fan of handing the GM spot over to a former player either but they may have no choice.[/B][/quote]

Seriously, the Alex Smith road is probably just as bad as Bruce staying. The problem is no seasoned well regarded GM is ever coming here same goes for HC.

At this point just make Alex Smith GM and Colt McCOy HC, AP OC and Junior Gillette DC. I can do special teams I am pretty slow at work right now.

fuck this franchise.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1239181]Bruce isn't going anywhere guys. [B]There was a made up story about things being red hot after the GB loss, that was 100% BS.[/B] Then guys like Chris Russell was bordering on clickbait posts like "Bruce was heard saying goodbye to folks at the offices", and when someone questioned him about it, he later said that he misspoke as he was going from information that he had heard from someone who heard it from someone else that knew someone inside Redskins park.

All of the reporters should be ashamed of themselves for forwarding on garbage and obviously 100% false and inaccurate news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. We've been hearing from these so called "sources" for the past two years now how Bruce is on the hot seat.

We should know better by now, that Bruce isn't going anywhere.[/quote]

Who's your source on that?

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28276535/ranking-best-worst-potential-nfl-head-coaching-openings-2019[/url]

Redskins ranked #9 out of 9 possible head coaching opportunities this offseason.

We taking more L's than Nick Canon right now.

I thought it was a good read, the gist of it is "unless Dan Snyder does some serious soul-searching we are not going to attract any quality candidates."

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[quote=mooby;1239241][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28276535/ranking-best-worst-potential-nfl-head-coaching-openings-2019[/url]

Redskins ranked #9 out of 9 possible head coaching opportunities this offseason.

We taking more L's than Nick Canon right now.

I thought it was a good read, the gist of it is "unless Dan Snyder does some serious soul-searching we are not going to attract any quality candidates."[/quote]

LOL!

Pros: the checks clear

As a landlord when I ever I consider section 8 that is the only pro I come up with.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

I'm a huge sucker for this team, and I'm really looking forward to the news right after the game.

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[quote=mooby;1239241][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28276535/ranking-best-worst-potential-nfl-head-coaching-openings-2019[/url]

Redskins ranked #9 out of 9 possible head coaching opportunities this offseason.

We taking more L's than Nick Canon right now.

I thought it was a good read, the gist of it is "unless Dan Snyder does some serious soul-searching we are not going to attract any quality candidates."[/quote]

We are 20 years into Dan Snyder reign and he still doesn't understand the basics of business structure or developing a culture. Perception is reality at this point.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1239241][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28276535/ranking-best-worst-potential-nfl-head-coaching-openings-2019[/url]



Redskins ranked #9 out of 9 possible head coaching opportunities this offseason.



We taking more L's than Nick Canon right now.



I thought it was a good read, the gist of it is "unless Dan Snyder does some serious soul-searching we are not going to attract any quality candidates."[/QUOTE]


9 of 9? I’m surprised we rank that well. [emoji849]



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[quote=SolidSnake84;1239181]Bruce isn't going anywhere guys. There was a made up story about things being red hot after the GB loss, that was 100% BS. Then guys like Chris Russell was bordering on clickbait posts like "Bruce was heard saying goodbye to folks at the offices", and when someone questioned him about it, he later said that he misspoke as he was going from information that he had heard from someone who heard it from someone else that knew someone inside Redskins park.

All of the reporters should be ashamed of themselves for forwarding on garbage and obviously 100% false and inaccurate news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. We've been hearing from these so called "sources" for the past two years now how Bruce is on the hot seat.

We should know better by now, that Bruce isn't going anywhere.[/quote]

It's gotten to the point for me where whenever that tool comes on the radio I have to turn him off. Russell is just a total unprofessional loser at his job.

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Per Albert Breers Twitter account (sorry, i cant link as twitter is blocked from my work computer):

[QUOTE]More Redskins... Source: Owner Dan Snyder assembled a small circle of football people earlier in the season to help him with Washington's search process. None of those people work for the team.

So he hasn't done it alone, but those with the team aren't involved.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion, this is very positive news. As fans, we have been kept in the dark, but, if this report is true, it means that Snyder decided months ago that Bruce will not be part of the plan moving forward. Otherwise, Bruce would have been involved in these discussions. The fact that he's not part of the search means he's almost certainly a goner.

Man, i haven't been this excited about an offseason since Vinny was fired!

Oh wait.... we got Bruce after that. NVM, we're screwed no matter what.

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JP Finlay wrote:

How will things shake out in Washington? Redskins owner Dan Snyder has been working with a select group of football people to decide the direction of the team for 2020 and beyond, a source tells me. None of them are current Redskins employees.

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1240677]JP Finlay wrote:

How will things shake out in Washington? Redskins owner Dan Snyder has been working with a select group of football people to decide the direction of the team for 2020 and beyond, a source tells me. None of them are current Redskins employees.[/quote]

Gibbs, Urban, and Kyer

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[quote=MTK;1240680]Gibbs, Urban, and Kyer[/quote]

Kyer?

Re: Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.
 

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1240682]Kyer?[/QUOTE]



Me

lol


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