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The Lions have had several calls and have said 100% NO to the rumor

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Adam Schefter posted that because of the restructuring of Staffords contract through the years, it makes him untradeable. The Lions would still take a cap hit of just over $31 million if they trade Stafford.

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Trade rumors aside, the Lions absolutely should be looking for a future beyond Stafford. His back injury is no joke. And Tua's agent said it would be good for him to sit for a year. So they may plan to keep Stafford one more year and have Tua learn from him and be ready to take over in 2021.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1244707]Trade rumors aside, the Lions absolutely should be looking for a future beyond Stafford. His back injury is no joke. And Tua's agent said it would be good for him to sit for a year. So they may plan to keep Stafford one more year and have Tua learn from him and be ready to take over in 2021.[/quote]

And if they REALLY want to make sure this happens, they would need to trade up with us. I'll take the #3 and #35; still draft Chase Young and recoup that 2nd rounder.

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Chase Young is the pick and should remain the pick. Until an actual trade does happen (if at all/I hope it doesn't) and I can make a judgment on real results, I will be disappointed if we don't come out of the draft with Chase as our pick. Game changer. He is the best player in the draft. If QB didn't automatically get a draft bump, he would be the easy number 1 overall pick. If you get the best player at # 2, that is excellent value. I'm glad we got Rivera altogether, but love having him more as a defensive guy with lots of power, to make Chase happen.

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I definitely see regret on the Redskins part if they pass on Chase and he has a bigger impact than any of the redskins rookies. I see a lot of back peddling from fans who want to move out of 2. I can picture JP finlay and Keim's headlines "Should the Redskins should have picked Chase Young" lol.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1244713]And if they REALLY want to make sure this happens, they would need to trade up with us. I'll take the #3 and #35; still draft Chase Young and recoup that 2nd rounder.[/quote]

Agreed. That's what I've been saying, although a lot here think this is too risky somehow.

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I'd agree with a place swap with the Lions plus interest, if they definitely want Tua. Last thing we want though is them screwing us and drafting CY. Or we trade with the Phins and the Giants getting CY.

Honestly can't see the Lions trading given they could takeTua at 3 knowing we're highly unlikely to take a QB. Phins more likely to want to leapfrog them than Lions moving up. And Phins arguably have more to offer in a trade. Unless its a blockbuster offer i still take Young.

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We either take Chase Young OR

a monster RG3 type trade that gets us:

a. Isaiah Simmons -who is the second best defensive player in the draft, AND in a position of need at LB or

Andrew Thomas- the best OT in the draft, AND also in a position of need to replace Trent Williams or Moses.


B. PLUS A bunch of 1s or 2s

Anything else is rubbish


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2: R1p2 - edge chase young - ohio state
66: R3p2 - g kevin dotson - louisiana-lafayette
105: R4p2 - lb troy dye - oregon
141: R4p38 - te brycen hopkins - purdue
148: R5p2 - wr michael pittman - usc
216: R7p2 - cb troy pride - notre dame
229: R7p15 - s myles dorn - north carolina

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1244856]2: R1p2 - edge chase young - ohio state
66: R3p2 - g kevin dotson - louisiana-lafayette
105: R4p2 - lb troy dye - oregon
141: R4p38 - te brycen hopkins - purdue
148: R5p2 - wr michael pittman - usc
216: R7p2 - cb troy pride - notre dame
229: R7p15 - s myles dorn - north carolina[/quote]

I doubt if Hopkins makes it that far. He may be gone before our 3rd round pick comes up.

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[quote=Number44;1244857]I doubt if Hopkins makes it that far. He may be gone before our 3rd round pick comes up.[/quote]

I can only go by the available board in the draft I was doing. Would definitely be great value there.

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[QUOTE=Number44;1244857]I doubt if Hopkins makes it that far. He may be gone before our 3rd round pick comes up.[/QUOTE]



For our second pick (third round), don’t you think we need an OT more than a Guard? The team seems very interested in re-signing Flowers and Scherff. Plus they have Martin as a backup for OG -he’s done well as a backup.

I believe we need to us a high pick to draft an offensive tackle. To replace Moses now or to start to build a player to take over for Trent Williams, assuming we re-sign him for a couple years.
BL- My thoughts are that we need an OT draft pick more than a G. I like many of your other picks.


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[quote=Warthog;1244860]For our second pick (third round), don’t you think we need an OT more than a Guard? The team seems very interested in re-signing Flowers and Scherff. Plus they have Martin as a backup for OG -he’s done well as a backup.

I believe we need to us a high pick to draft an offensive tackle. To replace Moses now or to start to build a player to take over for Trent Williams, assuming we re-sign him for a couple years.
BL- My thoughts are that we need an OT draft pick more than a G. I like many of your other picks.


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[QUOTE=Number44;1244864]???[/QUOTE]



You picked Dotson for the Round 3 draft pick (#66), who is an Offensive Guard. My question is why you think a G should be picked before an Offensive Tackle (OT).


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[quote=Warthog;1244868]You picked Dotson for the Round 3 draft pick (#66), who is an Offensive Guard. My question is why you think a G should be picked before an Offensive Tackle (OT).


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I am the one who picked him. This guy is a stud and was the best guy available imo when I made the pick. BPA > Need most times.

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[quote=Warthog;1244868]You picked Dotson for the Round 3 draft pick (#66), who is an Offensive Guard. My question is why you think a G should be picked before an Offensive Tackle (OT).


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Suggest you go back and read the posts again.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1244869]I am the one who picked him. This guy is a stud and was the best guy available imo when I made the pick. BPA > Need most times.[/QUOTE]



Now I understand your (#66) pick. I’m not disagreeing with you on your choice, I was just curious on why you made it. Chase Young is being chosen for the same reason (BPA). Have you seen many games with him?


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[quote=Warthog;1244871]Now I understand your (#66) pick. I’m not disagreeing with you on your choice, I was just curious on why you made it. Chase Young is being chosen for the same reason (BPA). Have you seen many games with him?

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No, didn't watch. Just research. And eye test. Looks like a stud, plays like a stud. 1st Team AP All American from a small conference. Not easy to do.

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[quote=Warthog;1243710]Peter King just said that someone in the Redskins organization told him at the Senior Bowl: “Three First Round Picks could change our team THIS season”. Let’s just say that Miami offered the Redskins their:
#5
#18
#26
picks to guarantee ability to get Tua at the #2 spot. What would you do? If you took the “Reverse of the RG3 pick”, who would you put in those draft spots?

Three first rounders gets you three starters in spots of absolute need. They may not just be starters but the may be very good or even excellent starters. You get excellent to outstanding starters on the cheap. What say you : an outstanding superstar for a decade or three excellent to outstanding starters that turn your team around this season.

I’m sure this statement to King was done ON PURPOSE, to float this idea in the NFL and see what the Redskins can actually get for a trade. If the King’s Ransom is high enough, they might do it.




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Look everyone - If there becomes a serious rift between the Bengals and Burrow prior to the draft, dont be surprised if the Bengals take Chase Young = (Redskins Fans Hearts Ripped From Chest). That will leave us with Burrow sitting in our laps. Burrow and Haskins both only had one year under their belts playing full time at the college level, but Burrow definitely shinned more than others. So, that said, do the Redskins take Burrow and trade Haskins, or just sit back and watch the Redskins draft room phones light up like its Christmas. If the later happens, there is no way I'm taking only 2 first round picks for Burrow. It wold have to be a Kings Ransom - between 3 or 4 first round picks this year and next. 2 second round picks this year or next, and finally a 3rd or 4th pick this year or next. That's The Bottom Line Folks. Just My Thoughts.

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If Joe Burrow is there at #2, You get a kings ransom deal and trade that pick.. You could get every 1 the Dolphins have and maybe a 3rd. As much as I like Burrow, you can't quit on Haskins yet, as he showed great promise the last few games he played.

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Haskins is no Josh Rosen. If for some reason, the Bengals take Young (who is the best player), we trade that pick, and I pretend like I'm not upset and wanted more picks all along.

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According to PFN Draft Analyst & Insider @TonyPauline, Ron Rivera and Dan Snyder appear to share a unanimous opinion on what to do with second pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.

More on that - along with other news from across the league - in the link below.

[url]https://profootballnetwork.com/pauline-mailba[/url]

[url]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1244966]If Joe Burrow is there at #2, You get a kings ransom deal and trade that pick.. You could get every 1 the Dolphins have and maybe a 3rd. As much as I like Burrow, you can't quit on Haskins yet, as he showed great promise the last few games he played.[/quote]

As much as I would hate losing out on Young, if Burrow is there at 2 and the Dolphins offer all three of their first rounders and a 3rd, you'd be a fool not to take it. You could end up with Isaiah Simmons, Justin Jefferson, and Grant Delpit just to throw 3 names out there, then with their 3rd you could get a TE Thad Moss/Brycen Hopkins or a RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or something

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[quote=SunnySide;1245000]Pro Football Network
@PFN365
· 13h
According to PFN Draft Analyst & Insider @TonyPauline, Ron Rivera and Dan Snyder appear to share a unanimous opinion on what to do with second pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.

More on that - along with other news from across the league - in the link below.

[url]https://profootballnetwork.com/pauline-mailba[/url]

[url]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline[/url][/quote]

Sure, it's unanimous today. All that can change when the phones start ringing.

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For all that want a monster, RG3-type trade, the die has been cast. Cincinnati will take Burrow and we will take Chase Young. Any trades will be fairly smaller than a huge deal some anticipate. All trades will start with Detroit, not us. Rivera, Del Rio AND Dan Snyder want Chase Young. With a couple FA pickups at CB, FS and LB the big holes in the defense will disappear. Also, with an all-star DL, and the defensive minds of Del Rio and RR, the defense will very quickly excel from the shitte show it was last year. It will be really fun to see how well Chase Young does in his rookie year and how much his presence will improve Sweat, Ionnidas, Allen and Payne.

I know some wanted a huge trade deal but it’s just not going to happen this year for us. Chase Young will be ours and let’s hope he is the enormous talent that everyone thinks he is. Everyone will be watching Chase Young this year, but they’ll be missing as the rest of the DL excels from the other side.


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[quote=Warthog;1245010]For all that want a monster, RG3-type trade, the die has been cast. Cincinnati will take Burrow and we will take Chase Young. Any trades will be fairly smaller than a huge deal some anticipate. All trades will start with Detroit, not us. Rivera, Del Rio AND Dan Snyder want Chase Young. With a couple FA pickups at CB, FS and LB the big holes in the defense will disappear. Also, with an all-star DL, and the defensive minds of Del Rio and RR, the defense will very quickly excel from the shitte show it was last year. It will be really fun to see how well Chase Young does in his rookie year and how much his presence will improve Sweat, Ionnidas, Allen and Payne.

I know some wanted a huge trade deal but it’s just not going to happen this year for us. Chase Young will be ours and let’s hope he is the enormous talent that everyone thinks he is. Everyone will be watching Chase Young this year, but they’ll be missing as the rest of the DL excels from the other side.


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Maybe.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1245036]Maybe.[/quote]


I'll bet you a wooden nickel! lol.

If Chase Young has a terrible Combine then maybe the Redskins might rethink it all - but he's going to have an outstanding Combine which shows what a freak of nature he truly is.

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Draft Chase Young and call it a day. There is no reason to complicate this. Get the best player in the draft to add to a defense that's already very talented.

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1245196]Draft Chase Young and call it a day. There is no reason to complicate this. Get the best player in the draft to add to a defense that's already very talented.[/QUOTE]



Chase isn’t going to perform at the Combine. Interviews but no physical testing. I guess from his perspective he can only go down or worse yet, get hurt.


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1245291]Chase isn’t going to perform at the Combine. Interviews but no physical testing. I guess from his perspective he can only go down or worse yet, get hurt.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]That is pretty unusual for non injured non qb players, right?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1245292]That is pretty unusual for non injured non qb players, right?

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Nah, seems pretty standard for top 5 picks these days. They have nothing to gain from working out at the combine, but they have plenty to lose. He's gonna work out at Ohio State's pro day anyways.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1245293]Nah, seems pretty standard for top 5 picks these days. They have nothing to gain from working out at the combine, but they have plenty to lose. He's gonna work out at Ohio State's pro day anyways.[/QUOTE]Didn't Bosa work out?

In fact the top 4 non-qbs all worked out at the combine last year.

Just odd I thought

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I hope all the experts are correct on this can’t miss .. player of decade.. will make everyone around him way better .. would not even think about trading him type of guy .. sounds to good to be true it probably is . Yes I’m a skeptic and I would trade the pick for the right price ..

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[quote=rocnrik;1245296]I hope all the experts are correct on this can’t miss .. player of decade.. will make everyone around him way better .. would not even think about trading him type of guy .. sounds to good to be true it probably is . Yes I’m a skeptic and I would trade the pick for the right price ..[/quote]

The team is also meeting with Tua, now that could be a due diligence kind of thing but I'm also not so sure Rivera is sold on Haskins.. As for Young, if we got offered Miami's picks, that is hard to pass up.

Could have Jeff Okudah along with 2 more players

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We should be meeting with any of the potential top picks, meeting with Tua is just smart business


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[quote=rocnrik;1245296]I hope all the experts are correct on this can’t miss .. player of decade.. will make everyone around him way better .. would not even think about trading him type of guy .. sounds to good to be true it probably is . Yes I’m a skeptic and I would trade the pick for the right price ..[/quote]

Sean Taylor like, draft Chase.

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[quote=MTK;1245299]We should be meeting with any of the potential top picks, meeting with Tua is just smart business


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To be honest, if you said Tua or Dwayne right now? I'd probably say Tua , kid is just deadly accurate but I'm not saying Dwayne won't be good.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245297]The team is also meeting with Tua, now that could be a due diligence kind of thing but I'm also not so sure Rivera is sold on Haskins.. As for Young, if we got offered Miami's picks, that is hard to pass up.

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Meeting with Tua is smart. Has to make Miami take notice. I tell you what, I really like Young, but if Miami offers their three 1st rounders for our pick, I wouldn't mind that at all. One mock CBS did last week had us trading #2 to Miami for #5,#18, and #39 (2nd round). Had us taking Isaiah Simmons at 5 and Henry Ruggs III at 18. Didn't mock the 2nd round, but plenty of solid picks would be available at #39. I'd be tempted by an offer like that, but, man, all three of Miami's first rounders would be real tough to pass up, IMO. I trust RR, so I'm glad he is making the decision on this. If he feels Young is just too good to trade, great. If he feels better getting a king's ransom for the pick, that's great, too. I feel like I'll be happy with whatever he decides.

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Could it also be to drum up interest so that MAYBE teams think we MIGHT take a QB, thus the Lions maybe swap picks, we get CY anyway, and get their second? :D