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[quote=Chico23231;1253685]Ehhh it’s not 1 in 5, it’s never been. And someone will always be offended by something...that’s also known.[/quote]

I disagree with Coggs on a few things, but I agree with him it's very hard to come with a definite number on the percentage of Native Americans that are truly offended by the name.

I'm over it. Change the name and let's get on with our lives. Hopefully Rivera brings the winning culture along and we can forget about the last 20 years of shit.

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If Snyder is a real man. He should refuse to change the name. Tell Nike and FedEx to kiss his ass.

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If you believe Stephen A Smith...it looks like the name change is happening sooner than later...

A source tells Stephen A. the Redskins will chang

[URL]https://youtu.be/t3RqXmAb91E[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1253619]Don’t give in to the mob...[/QUOTE]Love the Redskins but it's the right thing to do. Would anyone here like a team called Blackskins or Brownskins? Even whiteskins.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1253697]Love the Redskins but it's the right thing to do. Would anyone here like a team called Blackskins or Brownskins? Even whiteskins.

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Blackskins or Brownskins are not terms that have any other historical use or reference. And I would not give a fuck if they named a team Whiteskins, Crackers, White Trash, Hicks, Hillbillies, Honkys, Peckerwoods, Trailer Trash, etc.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1253701]Blackskins or Brownskins are not terms that have any other historical use or reference. And I would not give a fuck if they named a team Whiteskins, Crackers, White Trash, Hicks, Hillbillies, Honkys, Peckerwoods, Trailer Trash, etc.[/quote]

Washington Mollywhoppers

Our team slogan can be "tomorrow we're gonna pecker slap those Cowboy sons of bitches"

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[quote=mooby;1253704]Washington Mollywhoppers

Our team slogan can be "tomorrow we're gonna pecker slap those Cowboy sons of bitches" [/quote]

I like it. Mollywhoppers is original. Way better than the Warriors.

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[quote=chico23231;1253660]folks we need to admit, this isn’t about offending indians...it’s about offending white progressive people who find it their job to tell others you should be offended. Let’s start being 100% about this for once.[/quote]

.......bs.

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[quote=mooby;1253662]For once I agree with you, but even if only 10-20% of Native Americans are offended, they still exist. Don't act like every Native American is cool with it even if the majority are.

The reality though is this discussion is happening because $620 billion worth of corporate money told 3 major Redskins sponsors to do something about it. If they walk, everyone else won't be far behind. And Dan can't have his new stadium in DC if the name isn't changed. I got $20 that says the name gets changed and DC probably gives the RFK land to the Redskins at a deep discount or for free in exchange for less tax dollars going to the stadium.[/quote]

It has nothing to do with White Liberal anything .The things that have been going on have been building for a while now ,personally I don't think the Skins name is Offensive but it is what it is the times being what they are. I say revert back to the Senators ,you can keep the S and people will still refer to the team as Washington and or the Skins any way and the fans and Snyder will get what they want which is a new Stadium in DC itself on the old RFK site.

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[QUOTE=Number44;1253640]Yes, there is. "Chief" is a term that is actually used in a derogatory way by racists. "Redskin," not so much. I am 66 years old and have never heard anyone use the term 'redskin" as a racial slur. Not once. Chief? Yes, I've heard that used as a racial slur.[/QUOTE]



Really chief? Lol. Again just because you have never heard redskin used as a derogatory name doesn’t mean it wasn’t. And how in the hell is chief used in a derogatory way? I mean come on man. Redskin is cool chief is racist? U could be 166 and i would call bullshit on that.
Only you could make this political. Lol. If Trump tweeted change the name tomorrow morning you would be farting epiphanies.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1253638]Redskins isn’t a racist name period. To claim it is, you are being intellectually dishonest or you are a slow mentally. It’s one or the other.[/QUOTE]



Um...no. Ill take the word of one single native American over chico the cracker honkey. No offense of course.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1253641]What a pleasant way to start the 4th of July weekend.[/QUOTE]



Fuck you honkey. [emoji23]. Happy holidays SD!

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[QUOTE=coggs;1253647]Depends how nuclear they go. When the Oilers first moved to Tennessee, they waited 2 years before changing to the Titans. Kept the color scheme, a little, but it was pretty much a re-brand. Will all depend on what the sponsors demand. FedEx, and Nike might pressure for a complete re-brand.[/QUOTE]



The crime there wasn’t the name change... oilers was stupid AF. But those uniforms [emoji3590]

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1253652]Going online now and buying a couple more Redskins shirts. Want to have some historical reserves.[/QUOTE]



Ill sell you my RG 3 jersey. Inbox me.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1253660]Folks we need to admit, this isn’t about offending Indians...it’s about offending white progressive people who find it their job to tell others you should be offended. Let’s start being 100% about this for once.[/QUOTE]



No dude. It is not. Just because Native Americans have been marginalized doesn’t mean they are extinct. I love how you blame progressives. Lol. The whole controversy started with native American tribes. Read about the history of the name man. At one point it was derogatory. I wish u would all stop playing the I dont hear any Native Americans complaining as if you all are surrounded by them. But forget historical connotations. If i started a team and called it the yellow skins tomorrow and the emblem was an asian person would that be ok? Im gonna answer for you n say no. Forget the intricacies and just look at it in an obvious manner.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1253662]For once I agree with you, but even if only 10-20% of Native Americans are offended, they still exist. Don't act like every Native American is cool with it even if the majority are.



The reality though is this discussion is happening because $620 billion worth of corporate money told 3 major Redskins sponsors to do something about it. If they walk, everyone else won't be far behind. And Dan can't have his new stadium in DC if the name isn't changed. I got $20 that says the name gets changed and DC probably gives the RFK land to the Redskins at a deep discount or for free in exchange for less tax dollars going to the stadium.[/QUOTE]



How do you agree and than point out the fact that he is wrong? We all grew up REDSKINS fans. It sucks that we need to come to this conclusion but it is the right conclusion. 10-20 percent agree because the other 80 fall into the black man using the n word category. If you walked onto any reservation USA tomorrow you would never say yo redskin where is the bathroom? It has racist roots. Plain n simple. Do we as fans mean it in a racist way? No. Not a single one. But again if i started a team tomorrow called the yellow skins with an asian guy as the emblem you would be like dude are u crazy? I think we all just chalk “indians” up to some ancient past that is harmless but it is bigger than that.

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Im truly sorry i use Tapatalk and don’t understand multi quote but where would my post count be today if i did?

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In my head, the best case scenario is that DS will not budge and sells the team where a new owner changes the name. That's my best case scenario at this point.

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[QUOTE=OnceWeWereKings;1253721]In my head, the best case scenario is that DS will not budge and sells the team where a new owner changes the name. That's my best case scenario at this point.[/QUOTE]



Unfortunately his drive for money far outweighs his principles but God that is a great scenario

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1253721]In my head, the best case scenario is that DS will not budge and sells the team where a new owner changes the name. That's my best case scenario at this point.[/quote]

and moves the team out of the DC area. The team gets no support and the press vilifies them at every turn

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[quote=punch it in;1253713]Ill sell you my RG 3 jersey. Inbox me.[/quote]

Lol. Thanks Punch. Gonna pass though. I'm a T-Shirt man.

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[quote=punch it in;1253710]Fuck you honkey. [emoji23]. Happy holidays SD![/quote]

You too you cracker!

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How about calling them the Washington Indians. That sounds better than redtails or hogs.
Imagine the Dallas Cowboys vs the Washington Indians. Sounds better than Washington Redhawks and Generals. Just my opinion

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[QUOTE=Randall Nestor;1253726]How about calling them the Washington Indians. That sounds better than redtails or hogs.
Imagine the Dallas Cowboys vs the Washington Indians. Sounds better than Washington Redhawks and Generals. Just my opinion[/QUOTE]


Probably not

[url]https://theathletic.com/1909001/2020/07/03/cleveland-indians-ready-to-discuss-changing-team-name/[/url]


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Redhawks, Tails , are garbage names!

The "Warriors" is the best route to keep the colors and logo going.. Maybe even braves.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1253730]Redhawks, Tails , are garbage names!

The "Warriors" is the best route to keep the colors and logo going.. Maybe even braves.[/quote]

They were originally the Boston Braves so going back to Braves is a lesser evil. Redtails/Warriors is forcing it....But keep Redskins and tell FedEX to piss off

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[quote=SkinzWin;1253681]I called the Pigskins name several years ago. Wonder if I’ll get an royalties?[/quote]


Send the suggestion to DS. Send the suggestion to Skins reporters. Stake a claim!!

I'll support you getting royalties if it comes to it!

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It’s not going to be anything Native American related. The Indians, Braves, Chiefs and Blackhawks are all next on the chopping block.


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What the hell is going on in this country it sickens me to even turn on the tv anymore and now it’s come to changing the name of a sports team everyone needs to grow some thick skin and get out and work and then come home and watch the REDSKINS!!!!

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What really needs to happen is Snyder to move the team and let fedex do whatever they want with the shit stadium holly he’ll.

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[quote=punch it in;1253716]How do you agree and than point out the fact that he is wrong? We all grew up REDSKINS fans. It sucks that we need to come to this conclusion but it is the right conclusion. 10-20 percent agree because the other 80 fall into the black man using the n word category. If you walked onto any reservation USA tomorrow you would never say yo redskin where is the bathroom? It has racist roots. Plain n simple. Do we as fans mean it in a racist way? No. Not a single one. But again if i started a team tomorrow called the yellow skins with an asian guy as the emblem you would be like dude are u crazy? I think we all just chalk “indians” up to some ancient past that is harmless but it is bigger than that.[/quote]

If I walked onto a reservation and 8 out of 10 Native Americans said they didn't give a shit or supported the name and 2 didn't like it, I would keep on keepin' on. There's always going to be people offended by something. Should we stop killing and eating animals because PETA is offended? When [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html"]8 out of 10 people who identify as Native American aren't offended[/URL], that was good enough for me. That's no longer the case. Now it's 20% of Native Americans, the entire Democratic party, District and federal officials who own RFK, and Fedex, Nike, and $620 billion worth of corporate money backing them. It's now overwhelmingly negative, and as such an announcement will be coming soon. I'm not gonna tweak about it when it's gone, and I'm not denying up until March, there was a small group of Native Americans offended by the name. But you're not gonna get an apology out of me either for supporting the name up until now.

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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html"]Cleveland Indians, come on down[/URL].

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Stupidity continues. Weak shit.

When shit is going so damn good...you start tear apart from the inside. Sports teams names...that’s where we are at. Actually hear people try to rationalize Columbus statues been attacked...it’s laughable the piece of shit people we are producing. Soft

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Ask the Navajos how they feel

[url]https://youtu.be/40SFqadRTQ0[/url]

[url]https://youtu.be/4JC58UYeaBs[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1253735]It’s not going to be anything Native American related. The Indians, Braves, Chiefs and Blackhawks are all next on the chopping block.


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But Matty none of those names are remotely derogatory. Anyway im outta this conversation because somehow it has become about the deep states secret agenda. [emoji849]

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[quote=punch it in;1253748]But Matty none of those names are remotely derogatory. Anyway im outta this conversation because somehow it has become about the deep states secret agenda. [emoji849][/quote]

Redskins isn’t derogatory...if it was, been generations ago.

From what I’m told, words and symbols change...redskins means only the professional football team in Washington DC...nothing derogatory at all.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253749]Redskins isn’t derogatory...if it was, been generations ago.

From what I’m told, words and symbols change...redskins means only the professional football team in Washington DC...nothing derogatory at all.[/quote]

Watch the 2 videos in the posts above.

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[quote=punch it in;1253708]Really chief? Lol. Again just because you have never heard redskin used as a derogatory name doesn’t mean it wasn’t. And how in the hell is chief used in a derogatory way? I mean come on man. Redskin is cool chief is racist? U could be 166 and i would call bullshit on that.
Only you could make this political. Lol. If Trump tweeted change the name tomorrow morning you would be farting epiphanies.[/quote]

Yes, chief is used as a derogatory slur. In fact, that is the only term I have ever heard used in a derogatory manner towards a Native American in real life. Hard to figure where you have been all your life if you haven't heard the term "chief" used in a sarcastic and belittling manner. In old movies you would hear "savages", but I've never heard that in real life. In more recent movies, it's "chief." I am not a Trump supporter. Where on earth did you get that? Good grief, I'm not being political at all. I am sharing what I have witnessed. So, are you claiming that you have actually heard someone derogatorily refer to a Native American as a redskin? Really? I would definitely call bs on that. Go ahead and pretend that I'm being political again. That seems to be your schtick.

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Punch came here today to celebrate the name change..FFS

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The main thing that has changed for Dan Snyder is that they are hitting him in his pocket book. I just don’t think this is going to go away.

Make the change and publicize it about the “new team”. New narrative, forget about the last 20 years. I seriously doubt they will stay in the Native American genre.

I think in the end there are three big possibilities:

1. Red Tails - cool story, keep fight song, honors a military unit and military

2. Warrior - I think this is sort of boring but Snyder owns the name

3. Red Hawk - can’t go wrong with another bird in the NFL. Fight song the same


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