Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264348]Yes...every [B][U]LEGAL[/U][/B] vote. Legal is key here and if votes aren’t legal, then that’s the problem. Interesting you don’t think proper oversight is needed to ensure this solemn right is protected.

I keep coming back to “if you commit a crime you should go to jail”...well we have laws which govern this great nation. I don’t here agreement on the other side for some strange reason[/quote]

This is where it gets real nitpicky, because no doubt you are on the side that says if you didn't do it in front of a witness, or didn't follow all of the exact instructions to a T then the vote should be invalid. Whereas I disagree, minor clerical errors should not stop a vote from being counted. I trust the USPS system to make sure every ballot sent before or on election day was postmarked appropriately. I am fine with not counting ballots sent after election day.

I also trust given that we've had fair and free elections for 200 years that oversight has always been there so that citizens had confidence in the system. It's only a problem this year because POTUS is scared of losing.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Why hasnt Nevada updated their vote count? And it seems PA didnt update as well.

Biden won Michigan 2,787,000 to trumps 2,637,000 .. well outside of any recount (99% reporting)

Biden won Wisconsin 1,630,000 to Trumps 1,610,000 (99% reporting). I believe that is less than 1% so trump can ask for a recount, but since it is not within .25% he would have to pay for it.
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results/state/wisconsin[/url]

Just waiting on drama queen Nevada and billionaire trump donor Sheldon Adelson to finish their count.

Nevada was supposed to drop 2 new voting totals yesterday at 9:30 pm est and then I think 11:30 est .. but they didnt.

Biden is only leading in Nevada 588k to Trumps 580k ... but Clark County only has 72% reporting and Biden is leading that district 422k to Trumps 362k. Most other counties also are only reporting about 72% reported which is odd bc those counties are so small compared to Clark County so why the hold up in counties with 30-40k votes total?

Biden's lead in Nevada should only increase ... unless Sheldon Adelson gets involved.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264348]Yes...every [B][U]LEGAL[/U][/B] vote. Legal is key here and if votes aren’t legal, then that’s the problem. Interesting you don’t think proper oversight is needed to ensure this solemn right is protected.

I keep coming back to “if you commit a crime you should go to jail”...well we have laws which govern this great nation. I don’t here agreement on the other side for some strange reason[/quote]

"observe" is the term that people are having differing opinions on. I heard Trumps team (in that odd Guiliani press conf yesterday) say they were able to observe from a distance but werent able to see the specifics of each ballot and confirm names and signatures etc.

Thats more than "observe" in my opinion. Observe in this sense means being in the corner, out of the way, observing the process but not being a part of the process. Observe doesnt mean your people get access to each individual vote so you can vet and test every ballot for name and matching signatures etc. Trumps team basically wants access to each vote so they can do their own count.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s campaign planned to make a announcement in Las Vegas on Thursday at 11:30 ET (1630 GMT) on what is expected to be a lawsuit challenging the vote in Nevada.
[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-nevada-trump-int/trump-campaign-to-file-lawsuit-challenging-nevada-vote-report-idUSKBN27L1XB[/url]

I believe he will allege out-of-state voters voted in Nevada.

ya know .. like he and Melania voted in Florida claiming Florida residential status bc of Mar a Lago .. even though its listed as a commercial address and you cant claim a commercial property as residential for voting status purposes. I dont know why everyone gives him a pass for this. I must be missing something.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=SunnySide;1264353]"observe" is the term that people are having differing opinions on. I heard Trumps team (in that odd Guiliani press conf yesterday) say they were able to observe from a distance but werent able to see the specifics of each ballot and confirm names and signatures etc.

Thats more than "observe" in my opinion. Observe in this sense means being in the corner, out of the way, observing the process but not being a part of the process. Observe doesnt mean your people get access to each individual vote so you can vet and test every ballot for name and matching signatures etc. Trumps team basically wants access to each vote so they can do their own count.[/quote]

Sure, that’s what courts are for.

Acting like Biden wouldn’t want this if shoe was on other foot is dishonest and not surprising

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=SunnySide;1264354]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s campaign planned to make a announcement in Las Vegas on Thursday at 11:30 ET (1630 GMT) on what is expected to be a lawsuit challenging the vote in Nevada.
[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-nevada-trump-int/trump-campaign-to-file-lawsuit-challenging-nevada-vote-report-idUSKBN27L1XB[/url]

I believe he will allege out-of-state voters voted in Nevada.

[B]ya know .. like he and Melania voted in Florida claiming Florida residential status bc of Mar a Lago .. even though its listed as a commercial address and you cant claim a commercial property as residential for voting status purposes. I dont know why everyone gives him a pass for this. I must be missing something.[/B][/quote]

It's because he's POTUS and POTUS is above the law. We let it go because we're not nitpicky assholes hellbent on maintaining power.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Sue all 50 states. Fuck it. And review all votes for Biden. Fuck it.

Sadly, we all knew this was coming.

I have no problem asking for a recount if you're within the legal requirements in that state. But all these lawsuits are absurd. Do they have any actual reports of fraudulent votes? Or is it all technicalities? Can't have fake ballots or people voting more than once. But if the ballots were in the mail by the 3rd they were in the mail.

Trump could have actually got credit from Democrats if he took the loss like a man and made the transition process smooth.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Hillary could have kicked and screamed and demanded recounts and dropped lawsuits in 2016 but she didn't. To assume that Biden would be acting the same way that Trump is now is ridiculous. Trump is a sore loser with the emphasis on loser.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264355]Sure, that’s what courts are for.

Acting like Biden wouldn’t want this if shoe was on other foot is dishonest and not surprising[/quote]

chico , you're acting like trump now. Take some pride in yourself and just stop.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264355]Sure, that’s what courts are for.

Acting like Biden wouldn’t want this if shoe was on other foot is dishonest and not surprising[/quote]

"thats what courts are for" -- my understanding is that the US Constitution gives power to establish state election laws to each States legislature. There is no inherent constitutional federal right for a political party to have partisan observers. I have learned that there are non-partisan Federal observers and then there are the partisan campaign observers, which is what trump is talking about here.

I do not think trumps campaign can federally challenge a States local decisions on the scope of partisan observers ability to observe.

To do so, the SCOTUS would most likely go well beyond the strict construction of the US Constitution. thankfully we have "originalists" on the Court and Im sure they would never flip flop on their strict construction originialist approach to favor one political party over another. (sarcasm .. they will and they do much like Scalia did)

If PA election laws say partisan observers must be 100 feet away from vote counting (or whatever PA says) .. then the partisan observers must follow that State law.

Federal Court has no say so in that.

Dont get this confused with the prior other challenges in PA regarding whether ballots mailed but not received until after Election day should count. in this case I believe a Federal challenge is warranted and most likely successful bc in this case it was the PA governor and not the PA state legislature that changed the state election law. that would fall within the US Constitution province since it would violate the federal law that says only state LEGISLATURES can make state election law. (unless there is some PA legislation that gives the PA Gov powers to change election laws during a declaration of emergency - covid - but I havent read or heard that)

Laws are usually onions with layers to peel.
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regardless .. we stop counting now, Biden wins Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan and is the next POTUS. Whatever happens in PA is moot.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Even if true, who cares if the other side would have done it.

Do you want to hold yourself/party to a high standard? Or just have a pissing match and nothing but excuses?

It's just nothing but more of the same, and its fucking tiring.

Have some principles and some standards. Set the bar high.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1264363]Even if true, who cares if the other side would have done it.

Do you want to hold yourself/party to a high standard? Or just have a pissing match and nothing but excuses?

It's just nothing but more of the same, and its fucking tiring.

Have some principles and some standards. Set the bar high.[/quote]

He's just not capable of taking the high road. At this point we have to hope the margin in the EC gets to the point where pursuing lawsuits and recounts just won't make sense. Even then I'm not confident he'll back down.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Also, anyone that waited to November 3rd to mail their ballot can have a dick sandwich for lunch today.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

I'd rather lose like a man than win like a bitch.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

For those who know JoeRedskin, he is my brother though not very active here. He shared on FB the other day that when he was handed his ballot it was filled in except for the presidential candidate. Being in Baltimore the rest was filled in straight democratic ticket. I did not see this first hand, but my brother is as straight a shooter as you get. He said he turned it back in and got another one that was clean.

I know this isnt the same as saying there are a million fraudelent ballots, but i do think it says something about the nature of our elections at this point.



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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1264370]For those who know JoeRedskin, he is my brother though not very active here. He shared on FB the other day that when he was handed his ballot it was filled in except for the presidential candidate. Being in Baltimore the rest was filled in straight democratic ticket. I did not see this first hand, but my brother is as straight a shooter as you get. He said he turned it back in and got another one that was clean.

I know this isnt the same as saying there are a million fraudelent ballots, but i do think it says something about the nature of our elections at this point.



Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

They were doing paper ballots? I voted in Baltimore city in 2008 and I thought it was electronic if I remember right.

Joe is a smart guy so im 100% positive he isnt confusing his actual ballot with those suggested pre-filled in brochure looking ballots campaigners hand you in the parking lot as you walk in.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1264370]For those who know JoeRedskin, he is my brother though not very active here. He shared on FB the other day that when he was handed his ballot it was filled in except for the presidential candidate. Being in Baltimore the rest was filled in straight democratic ticket. I did not see this first hand, but my brother is as straight a shooter as you get. He said he turned it back in and got another one that was clean.

I know this isnt the same as saying there are a million fraudelent ballots, but i do think it says something about the nature of our elections at this point.



Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

No surprise...philly had similar complaints

Cheaters gon cheat

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Military mail-in ballots are still arriving in battleground states such as Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Nevada, even as President Trump and his campaign protest the counting of votes after Election Day.

Trump has argued that ballots received afterward should not be counted and filed lawsuits to stop the tally in states where he says observers haven't been given "meaningful access" to ensure the process is fair.
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/military-ballots-are-still-arriving-in-key-swing-states-continuing-to-count-votes[/url]

sorry for double or triple posting ... im a post count whore

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264375]No surprise...philly had similar complaints

Cheaters gon cheat[/quote]

If we're gonna cheat, I wish we'd go all the way and increase our House lead and take back the Senate too.

This sloppy half-assed cheating just to win by razor-thin margins is weak.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264375]No surprise...philly had similar complaints

Cheaters gon cheat[/quote]

Loser talk

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=MTK;1264378]Loser talk[/quote]

Cheating: loser talk...legal votes: “nit picky”...

Gotta get adjust my blinders, thanks

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264380]Cheating: loser talk...legal votes: “nit picky”...

Gotta get adjust my blinders, thanks[/quote]

c'mon man you sound like a Trump parrot at this point

do you really think there is widespread voter fraud going on?

the system that voted him in 4 years ago is now rigged against him?

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=MTK;1264382]c'mon man you sound like a Trump parrot at this point

do you really think there is widespread voter fraud going on?

the system that voted him in 4 years ago is now rigged against him?[/quote]

I think propensity for voter fraud is the greatest it’s every been with Mail in ballots. Is it enough for national elections changes? Most likely not. For local and state elections, I think it could factor in decision.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

The trump team's Nevada press conference a few minutes ago featured an older lady who said when she went to vote, election officials told her and her room mate that they already voted with mail-in ballots.

Id be curious to see if her mail-in vote was for Trump.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

When are the rest of the Senate seats being announced. Looks like Democrats will only need 50 now.

Wish Collins from Maine lost. She is less than useless to anyone remotely conservative. Get some new blood in there, even if Democratic blood.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=MTK;1264382]c'mon man you sound like a Trump parrot at this point

do you really think there is widespread voter fraud going on?

the system that voted him in 4 years ago is now rigged against him?[/quote]

No, I like his angle. Maybe we can convince Biden to recount the election results from 4 years ago since mail-in balloting was so fraudulent. According to Google 33 million mail-in ballots were cast in 2016, which is wayyyy more than the margin that Trump won by. And if we discover some fraud, maybe we can revoke his presidency and void every decision Trump has made for the last 4 years!

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=mooby;1264389]No, I like his angle. Maybe we can convince Biden to recount the election results from 4 years ago since mail-in balloting was so fraudulent. According to Google 33 million mail-in ballots were cast in 2016, which is wayyyy more than the margin that Trump won by. And if we discover some fraud, maybe we can revoke his presidency and void every decision Trump has made for the last 4 years![/quote]

Recount!

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

You know...I think Biden wins, but Bigly might be able to steal this if he plays his cards right.


Time to activate our greatest patriot:

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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Nevadas finally moving

604k for Biden, 592k for trump

Biden's lead is predicted to keep growing at this point in Nevada

Arizona, trump is reducing the Biden lead but not nearly at a high enough rate.

ITS OVER

Biden is the next POTUS

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

trump still has a path to 270, but it requires a lot of diet and exercise



(i stole this)

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1264392]You know...I think Biden wins, but Bigly might be able to steal this if he plays his cards right.


Time to activate our greatest patriot:

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Key word steal

So who's cheating exactly?

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

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You are looking live at the ..

1st female Vice President of the United States of America
1st black Vice President of the United States of America

cant wait to tell my daughter!!

Im fucking happy

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Chico .. this is what republicans should be bitching about.

Wisconsins 10 electoral votes were won by Biden over Trump by 20k votes.

Wisconsin democrats successfully kept the Green Party from being listed on the ballot (bc of some late signature issue? im not sure, seems self inflicted by the Green Party).

Guess how many votes the Green Party got in Wisconsin in 2016 when they were on the ballot?

Then look at how many they got in 2020 when they werent.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=SunnySide;1264394]Nevadas finally moving

604k for Biden, 592k for trump

Biden's lead is predicted to keep growing at this point in Nevada

Arizona, trump is reducing the Biden lead but not nearly at a high enough rate.

ITS OVER

Biden is the next POTUS[/quote]

With all those casinos there you would think Nevada would be better at counting stuff

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

I just want Trump gone. He is an embarrassment to our country.

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You are looking live at the ..

1st female Vice President of the United States of America
1st black Vice President of the United States of America

cant wait to tell my daughter!!

Im fucking happy[/quote]

I just hope Biden stays fit enough to stay in office. She says she's black and did everything she could to keep black people down. She is such a damn phony.

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

Can u imagine if Bigly stays and wins in court? Lawd Jesus that would be hilarious

Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1264402]I just hope Biden stays fit enough to stay in office. She says she's black and did everything she could to keep black people down. She is such a damn phony.[/quote]

I was coming into use the exact same word: phony

Such a fake and phony. She is a fucking snake oil saleswoman. Absolutely nothing to be excited for about her nomination.