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[quote=Chico23231;1280962]If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president.[/quote]

chico's answer for anyone coming in across the Boarder....................

a human catapult.


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280971][url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-prem-biden-border-crisis-john-kass-20210324-s6nxh76uofgs3n53xtxcmdpjty-story.html%3foutputType=amp[/url]



Column: Biden called for the border surge. And now he owns it.



From the article, he said it at the debate on tv:



Ramos: “Are you prepared to say tonight that you and President (Barack) Obama made a mistake (on deportations)? Why should Latinos trust you?”

Biden answered by criticizing Donald Trump’s handling of migrants at the border, defending Obama’s, and adding:





I [B]would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border — all those people are seeking asylum. [/B]They deserve to be heard,” Biden said. “That’s who we are. We’re a nation that says, ‘[B]If you want to flee and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come.’”[/B]





Biden, you dropped this receipt for your crisis[/QUOTE]



1)Yeah what a jerk wanting oppressed people to come to America. Oh wait thats why we are all here.
2)Obama had absolutely no blanket policy that called for mass separation of kids and their parents. Trump did. You are as misleading as a butter face from behind.
3)there is nothing you can see or hear from anyone that will ever convince you that Trump is a douche so just go on spinning and trying to convince the world that he is actually misunderstood and bullied by the real evil forces like Obama. Lol.

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[quote=punch it in;1280996]1)Yeah what a jerk wanting oppressed people to come to America. Oh wait thats why we are all here.
2)Obama had absolutely no blanket policy that called for mass separation of kids and their parents. Trump did. You are as misleading as a butter face from behind.
3)there is nothing you can see or hear from anyone that will ever convince you that Trump is a douche so just go on spinning and trying to convince the world that he is actually misunderstood and bullied by the real evil forces like Obama. Lol.[/quote]

chico is a trumpett ,he won't be happy till this Country is destroyed so he can say ,"I told you! He is anti America .

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[quote=punch it in;1280996] [B]1)Yeah what a jerk wanting oppressed people to come to America. Oh wait thats why we are all here. [/B]
2)Obama had absolutely no blanket policy that called for mass separation of kids and their parents. Trump did. You are as misleading as a butter face from behind.
3)there is nothing you can see or hear from anyone that will ever convince you that Trump is a douche so just go on spinning and trying to convince the world that he is actually misunderstood and bullied by the real evil forces like Obama. Lol.[/quote]

C'mon Punch. This is not the president's job. Encourage people to come here illegally and not follow amnesty procedures. Also, coming from a poorer country in and of itself is not "oppression" that would possibly qualify for amnesty. Biden made a mistake saying that. Or he just has a wrong policy on immigration.

If you qualify for amnesty if your country is worse off economically, then like 99% of the world is qualified to just get here and walk on in. If everyone in South America is oppressed the media is failing all around. I haven't heard about genocide, etc. any time recently.

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[quote=punch it in;1280996]1)Yeah what a jerk wanting oppressed people to come to America. Oh wait thats why we are all here.
2)Obama had absolutely no blanket policy that called for mass separation of kids and their parents. Trump did. You are as misleading as a butter face from behind.
3)there is nothing you can see or hear from anyone that will ever convince you that Trump is a douche so just go on spinning and trying to convince the world that he is actually misunderstood and bullied by the real evil forces like Obama. Lol.[/quote]

Biden incorrectly claims Obama administration didn't separate families

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families?am[/url]

Punch, I don’t blame u...because the media didn’t actively report events which made the Obama administration look bad (loads of scandal)...it causes for a lot of misinformation

Also, the Obama administration did build the cages he then used to house kids as well. I got that receipt too

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[quote=Giantone;1281000]chico is a trumpett ,he won't be happy till this Country is destroyed so he can say ,"I told you! He is anti America .[/quote]

After Biden destroys the country, I’m just gonna come in here and post the take your L gif.

I’m just hoping Trump has the servers back online so U get a chance to see it

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1281002]C'mon Punch. This is not the president's job. Encourage people to come here illegally and not follow amnesty procedures. Also, coming from a poorer country in and of itself is not "oppression" that would possibly qualify for amnesty. Biden made a mistake saying that. Or he just has a wrong policy on immigration.



If you qualify for amnesty if your country is worse off economically, then like 99% of the world is qualified to just get here and walk on in. If everyone in South America is oppressed the media is failing all around. I haven't heard about genocide, etc. any time recently.[/QUOTE]



Who the hell encouraged people to come here illegally? Apparently that only happened in the world where you n Chico live.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1281003]Biden incorrectly claims Obama administration didn't separate families



[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families?am[/url]



Punch, I don’t blame u...because the media didn’t actively report events which made the Obama administration look bad (loads of scandal)...it causes for a lot of misinformation



Also, the Obama administration did build the cages he then used to house kids as well. I got that receipt too[/QUOTE]



Thank God we all have you to shed light on the truth,..., LOL

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1281003]Biden incorrectly claims Obama administration didn't separate families



[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families?am[/url]



Punch, I don’t blame u...because the media didn’t actively report events which made the Obama administration look bad (loads of scandal)...it causes for a lot of misinformation



Also, the Obama administration did build the cages he then used to house kids as well. I got that receipt too[/QUOTE]



The Obama administration did not separate families as a matter of policy, as the Trump administration did as part of its “zero tolerance” border policy in 2018, but separations occurred on a case-by-case basis for parents being prosecuted on more serious charges than illegally crossing the border or in cases when an adult was suspected of not being a child’s parent, according to CNN.

Literally from the article you posted. If you weren’t so hell bent on trying to make Trump innocent and Obama guilty you might actually read what you post - other than the title.

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[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/brian-sicknick-death-strokes/2021/04/19/36d2d310-617e-11eb-afbe-9a11a127d146_story.html%3foutputType=amp[/url]
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Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural causes

All this beat with a fire extinguisher, etc...these were fake news narratives pushed by a dishonest media for political purposes.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281602][url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/brian-sicknick-death-strokes/2021/04/19/36d2d310-617e-11eb-afbe-9a11a127d146_story.html%3foutputType=amp[/url]
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Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural causes

All this beat with a fire extinguisher, etc...these were fake news narratives pushed by a dishonest media for political purposes.[/quote]

Are you saying the media intentionally knew the fire extinguisher story was false but pushed it anyways? Or they did not verify the story before pushing it? Because there's a big difference in the two.

[quote=WaPo]
Diaz’s ruling does not mean Sicknick was not assaulted or that the violent events at the Capitol did not contribute to his death. The medical examiner noted Sicknick was among the officers who engaged the mob and said “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”
[/quote]

^ The part of your article that caught my eye.

It's safe to conclude based upon the article that the events were not the main contributor to his death, but I don't think it's safe to conclude the events of the day did not contribute at all.

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[quote=mooby;1281614]Are you saying the media intentionally knew the fire extinguisher story was false but pushed it anyways? Or they did not verify the story before pushing it? Because there's a big difference in the two.



^ The part of your article that caught my eye.

It's safe to conclude based upon the article that the events were not the main contributor to his death, but I don't think it's safe to conclude the events of the day did not contribute at all.[/quote]

Nobody should be reporting rumors as facts. If a source gives you information real journalists confirm it...

Instead they print shit that fits their narrative. NYT is prints fake news more than ever. The fall of the grey lady is quite pathetic. How you could believe anything they print knowing how they performed as a unit the last 5 years is beyond me.

Also if it takes you 3 months to complete an autopsy where a person dies of stroke, then you are severely incompetent or this information was withheld. This obviously was withheld for to be used as a political tool, which it was.

the death certificate confirms he was not killed by anyone

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/07/capitol-riot-deaths-cause-death-released-4-5-not-sicknick/7128040002/[/url]

So stroke unfortunately killed the officer, 2 other had heart attack and another died from a meth overdose. 3 due to naturally causes...one drugs

The only one killed intentionally was the unarmed woman in the Capitol.

Hopefully when you hear the “deadly” Capitol riots...you actually know the proper context. Don’t ever expect the media to be honest, always be skeptical

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[quote=Chico23231;1281631]Nobody should be reporting rumors as facts. If a source gives you information real journalists confirm it...

Instead they print shit that fits their narrative. NYT is prints fake news more than ever. The fall of the grey lady is quite pathetic. How you could believe anything they print knowing how they performed as a unit the last 5 years is beyond me.

Also if it takes you 3 months to complete an autopsy where a person dies of stroke, then you are severely incompetent or this information was withheld. This obviously was withheld for to be used as a political tool, which it was.

the death certificate confirms he was not killed by anyone

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/07/capitol-riot-deaths-cause-death-released-4-5-not-sicknick/7128040002/[/url]

So stroke unfortunately killed the officer, 2 other had heart attack and another died from a meth overdose. 3 due to naturally causes...one drugs

The only one killed intentionally was the unarmed woman in the Capitol.

Hopefully when you hear the “deadly” Capitol riots...you actually know the proper context. Don’t ever expect the media to be honest, always be skeptical[/quote]

chico your ignorance knows no bounds.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1281640]chico your ignorance knows no bounds.[/QUOTE]



I cant even read it anymore. Its just regurgitated bullshit. Imagine if a blm member killed a cop? He would be soooo up in arms. But when a Trumper kills one it was “natural causes”. LOL. Yeah what a day huh? Guy gets bear sprayed and beat by fuckin trumpers and also has a stroke that kills him? What are the chances? FUCKING ZERO.

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Blood pressure also tends to increase when you're stressed and when blood pressure is consistently high, it can narrow or weaken blood vessels. This makes it easier for blood clots to form or for vessels to leak or burst, triggering a stroke.

But Im sure this particular stroke had nothing to do with stress and blood pressure. Unfortunately it just happened hours after he was attacked in a FUCKING RIOT AND INSURRECTION
GTFOH CHICO

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[quote=punch it in;1281769]Blood pressure also tends to increase when you're stressed and when blood pressure is consistently high, it can narrow or weaken blood vessels. This makes it easier for blood clots to form or for vessels to leak or burst, triggering a stroke.

But Im sure this particular stroke had nothing to do with stress and blood pressure. Unfortunately it just happened hours after he was attacked in a FUCKING RIOT AND INSURRECTION
GTFOH CHICO[/quote]

My Dad died from "strokes", yes they are natural causes but can be brought on by multiple things . Yes he was killed by the protesters.

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[quote=Giantone;1281783]My Dad died from "strokes", yes they are natural causes but can be brought on by multiple things . Yes he was killed by the protesters.[/quote]

RIP to your dad. I'm fortunate to still have both of my parents. And I take it for granted way too often. Probably one of, if not, my worst qualities.

That officer wasn't killed by protestors. But he would probably still be alive it that didn't happen on 1/6. And go back and look at any of my post, I never once stuck up for that bullshit.

Not directed towards you specifically, I think we all (some more than others), try to win the argument as we see fit, and that's all that matters (that is definitely me sometimes).

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The officer wasn’t killed by protesters but probably would still be alive if not for them? Come on SD. So if I break someones leg in a viscous attack and complications from the broken leg lead to a blood clot and he dies from the blood clot that is not on me?
And I know you condemned it but I think you are connecting the dots and still allowing for doubt. Is there a chance he was going to have a stroke hours after the attack anyway? Sure. Does your brain tell you he wouldn’t have? Yup. Which is why you are openly admitting that he would probably still be alive if not for the attack. You simply cannot have it both ways in this case though I appreciate your attempt to go middle of the road. There just is no middle ground here. Indirectly killing someone due to a complete and utter accident is different than indirectly killing someone due to an attempt on their life.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1281784]RIP to your dad. I'm fortunate to still have both of my parents. And I take it for granted way too often. Probably one of, if not, my worst qualities.

That officer wasn't killed by protestors. But he would probably still be alive it that didn't happen on 1/6. And go back and look at any of my post, I never once stuck up for that bullshit.

Not directed towards you specifically, I think we all (some more than others), try to win the argument as we see fit, and that's all that matters (that is definitely me sometimes).[/quote]

Thank you. I was just trying to prove how I agree with Punch. The stroke (to me anyway) was set in motion by what was going on ,that there is no question.

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The problem is this, cause of death when a stroke or physically being killed doesn’t take 3 fucking months to determine. It’s withheld to be used politically in a false manor only to inflame tensions.

Also, reporters saying he was killed by a fire extinguisher without doing any research or confirming only inflames false rhetoric as well.

Now after 3 months, it’s glossed over. Who cares, his death served the Democrats well.

His death was natural, be mad and cry he wasn’t beat to death.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281791]The problem is this, cause of death when a stroke or physically being killed doesn’t take 3 fucking months to determine. It’s withheld to be used politically in a false manor only to inflame tensions.

Also, reporters saying he was killed by a fire extinguisher without doing any research or confirming only inflames false rhetoric as well.

Now after 3 months, it’s glossed over. Who cares, his death served the Democrats well.

His death was natural, be mad and cry he wasn’t beat to death.[/quote]

You're a sad human being.

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[quote=punch it in;1281785][B]The officer wasn’t killed by protesters but probably would still be alive if not for them? Come on SD. [/B] So if I break someones leg in a viscous attack and complications from the broken leg lead to a blood clot and he dies from the blood clot that is not on me?
And I know you condemned it but I think you are connecting the dots and still allowing for doubt. [B]Is there a chance he was going to have a stroke hours after the attack anyway? [/B]Sure. Does your brain tell you he wouldn’t have? Yup. Which is why you are openly admitting that he would probably still be alive if not for the attack. You simply cannot have it both ways in this case though I appreciate your attempt to go middle of the road. There just is no middle ground here. Indirectly killing someone due to a complete and utter accident is different than indirectly killing someone due to an attempt on their life.[/quote]

I'm trying to ween myself off of speaking in absolutes. I have no idea if he was going to have a stroke regardless, but I'd bet the odds are likely he wouldn't have anywhere near January 6th, if those idiots didn't show up to prove they were idiots.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1281791]The problem is this, cause of death when a stroke or physically being killed doesn’t take 3 fucking months to determine. It’s withheld to be used politically in a false manor only to inflame tensions.



Also, reporters saying he was killed by a fire extinguisher without doing any research or confirming only inflames false rhetoric as well.



Now after 3 months, it’s glossed over. Who cares, his death served the Democrats well.



His death was natural, be mad and cry he wasn’t beat to death.[/QUOTE]



You have completely lost your mind. Thousands of Trumpers and qanon whack jobs tried to overthrow the government, and as a result a police officer lost his life.
Yet here you are blaming the Democrats. You are a loyal ass sheep man. Ill give you that.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1281804]I'm trying to ween myself off of speaking in absolutes. I have no idea if he was going to have a stroke regardless, but I'd bet the odds are likely he wouldn't have anywhere near January 6th, if those idiots didn't show up to prove they were idiots.[/QUOTE]



There are no absolutes in life, but there are things we can be pretty sure of. Chico has been brainwashed by far right conspiracy theories, it is April, Dan Snyder is a douchebag, and that cop would still be alive if not for the insurrection.

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Seriously pathetic and shameful by republicans putting politics above the country's best interests

[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/was-attack-our-capitol-murkowski-criticizes-gop-colleagues-opposing-jan-n1268906"]Republicans block independent commission to investigate attack on U.S. Capitol[/URL]

Also don't want to hear anything about blue lives matter from those on the right that opposed this commission... they basically just pissed all over law enforcement with their cowardice

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[quote=MTK;1284514]Seriously pathetic and shameful by republicans putting politics above the country's best interests

[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/was-attack-our-capitol-murkowski-criticizes-gop-colleagues-opposing-jan-n1268906"]Republicans block independent commission to investigate attack on U.S. Capitol[/URL]

Also don't want to hear anything about blue lives matter from those on the right that opposed this commission... they basically just pissed all over law enforcement with their cowardice[/quote]

The stupidity shown by the republicans should be enough to destroy the party if we're lucky.

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Yawn…we really need a commish about the origin of China virus and if the US funded the research in wuhan lab.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284523]Yawn…we really need a commish about the origin of China virus and if the US funded the research in wuhan lab.[/quote]

Let's do both, in order of which occurred 1st (and also in order of significance).

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[quote=MTK;1284514]Seriously pathetic and shameful by republicans putting politics above the country's best interests

[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/was-attack-our-capitol-murkowski-criticizes-gop-colleagues-opposing-jan-n1268906"]Republicans block independent commission to investigate attack on U.S. Capitol[/URL]

Also don't want to hear anything about blue lives matter from those on the right that opposed this commission... they basically just pissed all over law enforcement with their cowardice[/quote]

The party of backing the blue and law and order... unless they get in the way of their pursuit of power.

We saw it when the thin blue line was the only thing standing in between a bunch of douchebags and Congress, and now we see it again when Congress wants to investigate what happened that day.

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Imagine blowing off an insurrection as no big deal, nothing else to see here. True patriots right there. Anyone know how many hearings were held on Benghazi?

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[quote=MTK;1284612]Imagine blowing off an insurrection as no big deal, nothing else to see here. True patriots right there. Anyone know how many hearings were held on Benghazi?[/quote]

There are multiple investigations right now about Jan 6, I think we will be fine. Plus the folks will be prosecuted. I imagine long federal sentences since it was so bad.

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[URL="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/officer-who-responded-us-capitol-attack-is-third-die-by-suicide-2021-08-02/"]Four officers who responded to U.S. Capitol attack have died by suicide[/URL]

Just like a normal tourist visit they said

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[QUOTE=MTK;1284612]Imagine blowing off an insurrection as no big deal, nothing else to see here. True patriots right there. Anyone know how many hearings were held on Benghazi?[/QUOTE]


Imagine all that and than states hiring private companies to continue to try and overthrow the government. Cyber Ninja - millions of dollars- and for what? To perpetuate Trumps big fat lie not to mention setting the standard for future elections to be taken over by state legislatures who aren’t on board with the results. The shit storm this mother fucker left behind will never go away.

As far as those dead officers - Trump should serve consecutive life sentences. What a fuckin piece of garbage.

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[quote=punch it in;1286741]Imagine all that and than states hiring private companies to continue to try and overthrow the government. Cyber Ninja - millions of dollars- and for what? To perpetuate Trumps big fat lie not to mention setting the standard for future elections to be taken over by state legislatures who aren’t on board with the results. The shit storm this mother fucker left behind will never go away.

As far as those dead officers - Trump should serve consecutive life sentences. What a fuckin piece of garbage.[/quote]

I agree with everything you said. It doesn't help you have place's like Arizona still carrying out the BS recounting going on . I hope the Voting machine Company wins it's Law suits against everyone .

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272791]Well if it is really the time of the centrist maybe the middle group can split from rep and dem parties and start a 3rd bloc

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]


As Mooby noted, we can dream, but this system is set up for a 2 party system.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=1272794&postcount=108[/url]

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1287044]As Mooby noted, we can dream, but this system is set up for a 2 party system.



[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=1272794&postcount=108[/url][/QUOTE]This system is rigged for the republican party/ democratic party.

There were times in the past where the parties changed to move with the times. These two parties have effectively locked in their dysfunction through money and media.

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A rally for these pieces of shit? WTF is going on

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2021/09/16/dc-streets-closed-for-protests/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social"]D.C. street closures for Saturday’s rally in support of Jan. 6 insurrection defendants[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1290521]A rally for these pieces of shit? WTF is going on

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2021/09/16/dc-streets-closed-for-protests/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social"]D.C. street closures for Saturday’s rally in support of Jan. 6 insurrection defendants[/URL][/quote]

It's being done as a survey to find out who the idiots are. Maybe their stamp to get in will have some sort of chip that labels this as morons so you know not to associate with them.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1287045]This system is rigged for the republican party/ democratic party.

There were times in the past where the parties changed to move with the times. These two parties have effectively locked in their dysfunction through money and media.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]


Don’t compare the two parties. The Democratic party did not hitch their souls to a fuckin moron like the Republican party did.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1290521]A rally for these pieces of shit? WTF is going on

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2021/09/16/dc-streets-closed-for-protests/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social"]D.C. street closures for Saturday’s rally in support of Jan. 6 insurrection defendants[/URL][/QUOTE]


Wait until it is at full capacity and then arrest them
all, wait for a rally for those people and repeat. Like shooting fish in a barrel.