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Defensewins 03-09-2021 08:22 AM

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Cowboys might regret making Dak the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL when he is not the 2nd best QB on the field. Cowboys have blown most their cap on one side of the ball - offense. Time will tell.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2021 08:23 AM

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[quote=Defensewins;1278730]Cowboys might regret making Dak the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL when he is not the 2nd best QB on the field. Cowboys have blown most their cap on one side of the ball - offense. Time will tell.[/quote]

Yeah i think he's a top 10 QB but he's not ELITE

MTK 03-09-2021 08:28 AM

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Being the top paid has never been about being the top guy. It was his turn to get paid.

punch it in 03-09-2021 09:31 AM

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Here we go with the Cowboys are going to the Superbowl again. It is comical at this point. Every fuckin year they are going to the Superbowl for 20 years now. Why this time? Because they got Dak Prescott? The same guy who hasn’t sniffed a Superbowl for five years? The same guy who has won one playoff game in five years? But now coming off an injury with the same shit defense and shit coach is suddenly heading to Disney world? The same guy who was 2-3 before he got hurt last year? Wtf am I missing? You would think they signed Aaron Rodgers, and an entire new defense yesterday. Gtfoh with this bullshit.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2021 09:34 AM

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Dallas will always get the love, its the STAR effect

punch it in 03-09-2021 09:43 AM

Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1278744]Dallas will always get the love, its the STAR effect[/QUOTE]



I understand their fan base, but im listening to NY radio, and talking heads that are not Dallas fans and they are acting like Dallas just made some huge move. Dak is good no doubt, but we have seen five years of him and this team fall waaaay short of expectations. Their defense is absolute trash. McCarthy is a joke.
2-3 and got so lucky against Atlanta. Could have easily been 1-4 last time we saw this same team that is now on their way to the promised land. Um? Ok.

Ruhskins 03-09-2021 09:47 AM

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[quote=MTK;1278732]Being the top paid has never been about being the top guy. It was his turn to get paid.[/quote]

Exactly. He'll be the top paid guy until the next QB contract comes along.

BaltimoreSkins 03-09-2021 09:56 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1278748]Exactly. He'll be the top paid guy until the next QB contract comes along.[/quote]

Lamar Jackson come on down you are the next contestant on "time to get paid"

mooby 03-09-2021 10:08 AM

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I'm a little surprised the cap staying flat/going down is not going to have an effect on new contracts signed this year. Cowboys basically played this like the cap is going to keep going up.

MTK 03-09-2021 10:12 AM

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[quote=mooby;1278751]I'm a little surprised the cap staying flat/going down is not going to have an effect on new contracts signed this year. [B]Cowboys basically played this like the cap is going to keep going up[/B].[/quote]

99.999999% chance it does with the next TV deals, this year is the only true unknown

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2021 10:13 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1278743]Here we go with the Cowboys are going to the Superbowl again. It is comical at this point. Every fuckin year they are going to the Superbowl for 20 years now. Why this time? Because they got Dak Prescott? The same guy who hasn’t sniffed a Superbowl for five years? The same guy who has won one playoff game in five years? But now coming off an injury with the same shit defense and shit coach is suddenly heading to Disney world? The same guy who was 2-3 before he got hurt last year? Wtf am I missing? You would think they signed Aaron Rodgers, and an entire new defense yesterday. Gtfoh with this bullshit.[/quote]

Yeah, I was watching some of the shows on NFL Network last night, and it was pretty obvious that everyone thought this move now catapults them into being a front-runner for the NFC title. It is so hilarious how everyone jumps on their jock every offseason. It's like they were just waiting for a reason, and now they have it...

It's fine. I'd rather them go into the season with all the expectations, it's probably a big reason why they continue to fail...

MTK 03-09-2021 10:15 AM

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The Cowboys hype will be in full force all offseason no doubt, and like it or not they are definitely the favorite in the NFC East right now.

SunnySide 03-09-2021 10:23 AM

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Isnt the league in new TV contract rights currently?

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When the league certified its new collective-bargaining agreement this offseason, ensuring labor peace for the next decade, focus shifted towards negotiating television contracts. While many of the contracts with networks for broadcasting rights to games don’t expire until 2022, the league was determined to reach agreements with its providers.

According to NBC Sports’ Peter King, the league is expected to sign new 10-year contracts with its network partners within a month. As a result, NBC, CBS, FOX and Disney will all be partnered with the NFL through 2030.

When the contracts are finalized, the league could receive more than $100 billion over the life of the deals. Even after a season that saw a steep drop in viewership, networks are reportedly prepared to pay an aggregated increase of 70-100% from their current contracts.
[url]https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-rumors-television-contracts-2021-140221/[/url]

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Players get 47% to 48.5% of the league revenue .. so the cap will explode.

No doubt Jerry on the finance committee is arguing for a cap INCREASE this year to save his teams situation.

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2021 10:27 AM

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[quote=SunnySide;1278762]Isnt the league in new TV contract rights currently?

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When the league certified its new collective-bargaining agreement this offseason, ensuring labor peace for the next decade, focus shifted towards negotiating television contracts. While many of the contracts with networks for broadcasting rights to games don’t expire until 2022, the league was determined to reach agreements with its providers.

According to NBC Sports’ Peter King, the league is expected to sign new 10-year contracts with its network partners within a month. As a result, NBC, CBS, FOX and Disney will all be partnered with the NFL through 2030.

When the contracts are finalized, the league could receive more than $100 billion over the life of the deals. Even after a season that saw a steep drop in viewership, networks are reportedly prepared to pay an aggregated increase of 70-100% from their current contracts.
[url]https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-rumors-television-contracts-2021-140221/[/url]

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Players get 47% to 48.5% of the league revenue .. so the cap will explode.

No doubt Jerry on the finance committee is arguing for a cap INCREASE this year to save his teams situation.[/quote]

Jerry is definitely operating on insider information...

Ruhskins 03-09-2021 11:30 AM

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Tom Brady er I mean the Bucs have tagged Chris Godwin:

[url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1369323498313760768[/url]

SunnySide 03-09-2021 12:35 PM

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[url]https://nfltraderumors.co/top-50-2021-nfl-free-agents/[/url]

Current list of top FAs

How is JuJu Smith Shuster still only 24 years old?

Lots of decent edge rushers available.

Pervis_Griffith 03-09-2021 12:38 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1278769]Tom Brady er I mean the Bucs have tagged Chris Godwin:

[url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1369323498313760768[/url][/quote]


Allen Robinson approves.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2021 01:47 PM

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Bears placed franchise tag on WR Allen Robinson, per source.

There goes that option

Ruhskins 03-09-2021 01:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278795]Bears placed franchise tag on WR Allen Robinson, per source.

There goes that option[/quote]

I honestly didn't think he'd be an option, he probably wants to be WR1 and would want WR1 money.

I think Golladay is going to want the same, although he's going to be a FA. So I think it is going to be down to either Curtis Samuel or Corey Davis.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2021 02:02 PM

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i think Will Fuller is the most realistic option

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2021 02:04 PM

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Corey Davis. Plus, Mariota and Davis have a good rapport already having played three years together in Tennessee. :)

Wouldn't be mad about Fuller though.

Ruhskins 03-09-2021 02:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278801]i think Will Fuller is the most realistic option[/quote]

I like Fuller too, but he has never played a 16 game season, will be suspended for the first week due to PEDs. I won't be upset if we get him, but I don't think he should be our first option.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2021 02:44 PM

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Several teams are legit eyeing Washington Football CB Ronald Darby per sources, but WFT still hopes to keep him. The CB market is a weird one. No elite options, but several solid players. Could be a scenario where some choose 1-year deals in this lower-cap environment.

Ben Stalding

Would be a big loss IMO

GridIron26 03-09-2021 03:27 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278807]Several teams are legit eyeing Washington Football CB Ronald Darby per sources, but WFT still hopes to keep him. The CB market is a weird one. No elite options, but several solid players. Could be a scenario where some choose 1-year deals in this lower-cap environment.

Ben Stalding

Would be a big loss IMO[/quote]

Shoot, hopefully we will sign him before the free agency starts. Per Keim, the team is actively working on resigning him so fingers crossed.

CRedskinsRule 03-09-2021 03:31 PM

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Saints reportedly tagging their Safety Marcus Williams. Salary cap is such a joke, no way they should have enough to tag anyone.

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Ruhskins 03-09-2021 03:36 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1278811]Saints reportedly tagging their Safety Marcus Williams. Salary cap is such a joke, no eay they should have enough to tag anyone.

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I don't think the cap is a joke, it's just that teams probably already know the players that can be released to give them cap relief AND/OR players that are likely to restructure their contracts.

This is why I laugh when fans say that "players should honor their contracts." Because most of the time it is teams that do not honor a contract. And I get it, it is a business decision, but still.

NYCskinfan82 03-09-2021 03:55 PM

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I know it's a business but fans mainly get upset when the player treats it like a business and not when the team does

CRedskinsRule 03-09-2021 03:58 PM

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1278812]I don't think the cap is a joke, it's just that teams probably already know the players that can be released to give them cap relief AND/OR players that are likely to restructure their contracts.



This is why I laugh when fans say that "players should honor their contracts." Because most of the team it is teams that do not honor a contract. And I get it, it is a business decision, but still.[/QUOTE]I get that but when you are 50M to the bad you should not be able to place a franchise tag. In fact I would argue that teams should not be allowed to franchise if they are below zero. That would both enhance player movement (win for players) and enforce cap integrity (win for owners)

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Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2021 04:10 PM

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Teams don't have to be compliant with the cap until March 17th, when the new league year begins. On top of that, no one even knows what the cap is yet.

Scalper 03-09-2021 08:22 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277278]Watson is gonna get traded. Even though it's apples to asparagus, the team honoring Watt's request but not Watson's, will be considered racism. The build up to draft day is gonna be nuts this year.[/quote]

Always the race card, used as an excuse to wrangle special treatment and concessions. What a joke. Watt wasn't in the first year of a sixth of a billion dollar deal. It is isn't racism and screw anyone who says so. Anyone who thinks Watson is going to get traded, this year especially, knows nothing about the mentality of Houston ownership and NFL ownership. They don't care about what fans do, winning and losing, it business and money, period. Watson deserves the cornholing he's about to receive from Houston. Serves him right. Let him holdout and watch the prime of his career and his prime earnings wither away on the vine. What a HOLE.

Scalper 03-09-2021 08:29 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278763]Jerry is definitely operating on insider information...[/quote]

Won't matter as long as he or his pork-chop son are the GMs. You could give them double the salary cap of other teams they still wouldn't bring home a trophy. JJ's ego is pitiful, and he is of course who THE DAN modelled himself off of. He has won nothing without Jimmy Johnson and the roster he assembled. JJ couldn't handle Johnson getting all the credit, was pure ego, so ran him off. What a tool. All he had to do was sit back and let Johnson do his thing and Dallas would have won multiple additional Superbowls.

Scalper 03-09-2021 08:41 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1278700]How. Can. They. Afford. That.

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They can't.
Dak will be 20% of their cap moving forward, give or take, and will have much less talent around him moving forward. If they keep talent on O, D will stink.
As a Redskins fan, I love this signing.
It means the Cowboys will not be contenders.
Dak is a good but not great QB. He is not worth this kind of money, especially not coming off injury. He has played behind a top-five OL, with a top-five RB, with a top-ten WR, and has still never won diddly, though Jones and horrible coaches like Garrett and Pork Chop 2.0 (McCarthy) not his fault.
QB contracts are just insane. I don't blame Dak for driving the hardest bargain and getting maximum value, but it is a cautionary tale as well. Makes so much more sense to draft a QB, in 1st round especially, and have him on 5 years of rookie deal. Also makes a ton of sense to draft and develop solid plan B, so if you end up with an above average QB looking to get paid like a bionic Johnny Unitas, you can let him walk.
In terms of on-field performance, Dak worth no more than $25M, economics of QB just insane.
To think of trading a boatload of picks and then paying preposterous contracts like this, versus drafting a rookie, is insanity given pricing of QBs.
I give Mahomes credit. He is certainly not dumb and could have demanded an inflation adjusted contract in a number of different ways, but he wants to win instead.
You put Dak on a team without a stud RB, stud OL, stud WRs, talent EVERYWHERE on O, he is an above average QB nothing more.
Can't help laughing about the choke artist Romo. Dak not that bad, Romo was the gift that keeps on giving, but I hope Jerry lives to be 7,000 and continues as Dallas GM. Long live Jerry!!!

Scalper 03-09-2021 08:45 PM

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Also, LOVE having McCarthy coaching Dallas. If he could only win one SB with Aaron freaking Rodgers at QB, he's not winning any with Dak Prescott at QB. LOL. Long live Jerry!!!

skinsfaninok 03-10-2021 09:32 AM

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The NFL informed teams this morning that the salary cap has been set at $182.5 million, per sources.

Scalper 03-10-2021 10:01 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1278812]I don't think the cap is a joke, it's just that teams probably already know the players that can be released to give them cap relief AND/OR players that are likely to restructure their contracts.

This is why I laugh when fans say that "players should honor their contracts." Because most of the time it is teams that do not honor a contract. And I get it, it is a business decision, but still.[/quote]

There are times when holding out may be defensible, especially if you have massively outplayed your contract and it is nearing end. In the first year of a $156M contract less than a year old that made you the highest paid player in league history at the time it was signed is not that time.

Give the NFL owners credit for being smart. They brought in scabs for a year to maintain control of the league and would do so again in a heartbeat. The owners wield most of the power, love it or hate it. The bottom line is that NFL careers are so short only the superstars could afford to hold out the 2-3 years it would take to get a player-friendly labor deal, and not even then. In baseball or basketball, players regularly play decade or more so can stare at 2-3 years no pay and still feel like they'll make a pile. Not the NFL.

BaltimoreSkins 03-10-2021 10:29 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278842]The NFL informed teams this morning that the salary cap has been set at $182.5 million, per sources.[/quote]

Dang down 15 million. As Cred said there will be blood

SunnySide 03-10-2021 10:44 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278842]The NFL informed teams this morning that the salary cap has been set at $182.5 million, per sources.[/quote]

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My enthusiasm has been muted by all the Wrs getting tags and Lamonte David being resigned .. but lets go!

KI Skins Fan 03-10-2021 10:46 AM

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[quote=Scalper;1278820]Also, LOVE having McCarthy coaching Dallas. If he could only win one SB with Aaron freaking Rodgers at QB, he's not winning any with Dak Prescott at QB. LOL. Long live Jerry!!![/quote]

Preach! If anyone is keeping score, McCarthy had to lead the league in horrible coaching decisions last season. Please keep him around, Jerruh.

MTK 03-10-2021 10:48 AM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1278849]Dang down 15 million. As Cred said there will be blood[/quote]

buyers market and we're set to do some buyin'

BaltimoreSkins 03-10-2021 11:01 AM

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[quote=SunnySide;1278852][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn_t7yYi_1EbhpAxlaTORPKJ9VaDGWuUDx2w&usqp=CAU[/IMG]

My enthusiasm has been muted by all the Wrs getting tags and Lamonte David being resigned .. but lets go![/quote]

What's the old military adage? Hurry up and wait


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