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Idk the situation w/ Matt Ryan but why would Atlanta let him walk? Who do they have that is better? Also why would we give up draft picks for him? I wouldn't. We have already done the old guy thing. He is w/out question better than anyone we have, probably has a few good years left - but I'd pass simply because he does not push us into SB contender type of team. We ain't there yet. We aren't a team like the Rams. I would pass on Ryan.

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I mentioned this a while back.. go the route similar to 2012. You draft two guys and bring back one of the incumbents - either Allen or Fitz. The higher draft pick competes w/ the incumbent and the later round project sits and learns.

This may not be popular but I'm not bringing back TH. We have to aim higher than an undrafted FA that limits the offense because of a lack of arm talent.

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Henike will be a great back up he just can't get it done every week. Sounds like people want to draft someone. I am ok with that but we need to bring a veteran in as well. I like M. Marrota he similar to Henike but runs and throws better. Problem is injuries. If we get the mississippi kid or pitt kid with this may be ok. Not my first choice but most likely outcome though.

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Super user friendly way to do a mock draft:

The trade proposals are unrealistic for the most part. But the players are ranked.

[url]https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/[/url]

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I almost want to lose both games to a) get a higher pick and b) assure the Eagles picks have less value. Almost.

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[quote=mooby;1306079]What about coverage linebackers who also defend the run well? And/or force turnovers? Those sound real nice right about now.[/quote]

That settles it I think we all agree our next inside linebacker should be Ray Lewis

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[quote=Redskins 2021;1306061]Another major problem for us is what we have to trade. Are main competitors NYG and PHL have multiple first round picks. They have alot of ammo to make moves. I think they both will be looking for QB. The only thing we have to offer is the defensive linemen. I fear if this qb thing does not get solved this year we may lose some major ground to these teams.[/quote]

Are you seriously thinking the Redskins should trade up for a QB in this class? Most prognosticators rank their highest ranked QB in the 16-25 overall range, a few around the 10 range and some even in the 2d round. And to top it off they don't form a consensus on who the top one is. Bottomline, you don't trade up for a QB under those circumstances. You either sit and take who falls to you (fair chance that will be the teams top choice anyway ((and at 9, if we're still there, probably the first one off the board)) or you trade down a bit before taking one).

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NY have already said that Jones is back next year, and Philly have all but committed to Hurts (who unlike Jones, seems to have improved somewhat recently). If either looks at QB that high in this draft, especially given their obvious problems in the OL department, it's going to make them look dysfunctional. Hell, if they want to reach for a QB or even trade up, let them; anything that sets them back helps us.

Yes we need a QB, but that's not our only need, so if a value pick at QB isn't there when we pick in rd1 etc., then take the BPA especially if he's a LB or S, or even trade down. But certainly do not trade up or reach for any QB in this draft. We didn't last year, when there were options available (at least for a trade up) so why would we trade up this year with a far weaker QB class?

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We signed Fitzpatrick in March before the draft. I assume we would have been more aggressive for Mac Jones if we didnt already do that.

I dont study or know Corral or Pickett but if the staff likes one of them, ideally Corral falls to us at no. 9 or wherever we draft. I wouldnt be against trading up a few spots if it means securing Corral.

Derek Carr - under contract w Raides next year, says he doesnt want to go anywhere and wed have to trade 2 1R plus a 3R to get him, then have to sign him to a massive contract. I like Carr but not at that cost.

Mariotta/Ryan/retreads -- no thank you. That doesnt actually solve the problem.

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ideally, in order:

Draft Corral (throw in a 2023 2R if needed to move up a spot or 2)
Trade for watson (who wont come here anyway)
Draft Pickett
Tank 2022 .. absolutely just tank it.

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Given where we are likely to pick I would rather draft a stud at LT/S/CB and then trade back into the bottom third of the 1st round (as we did for Montez Sweat)for one of the available quarterbacks, if they really believe he has talent. May cost us a second next year to do but but if they like the guy and they think he can be a
(But not likely the) solution long term then I would be OK with that. Regardless of what real value you place on them you will need to be picking them in the first round if you want one. Regardless, they will need to spend FA dollars to fill many other holes

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We can’t eff around if we like someone at the QB spot…I’d say go get that guy if everyone is in agreement

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[url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency[/url]

PFF projected top FAs. Who knows who will get deals or tagged prior to the start of FA. Some nice fits. We only have around 35 players under contract for 2022 so we need to fill the roster with big additions and lots of depth.

FA starts March 16.

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[quote=Chico23231;1306126]We can’t eff around if we like someone at the QB spot…I’d say go get that guy if everyone is in agreement[/quote]

Agreed .. I dont want to trade a ton of capital if we have to move up but this draft sounds like Corral might fall to us or be within a few spots.

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I would not move up for a QB. What I am afraid of is the amount of talent Philadelphia and New York will have coming in with there multiple first round picks could hurt us bad if we don't have a QB who can cover up some of are problems. I think if we don't get an upper to mid-level QB we could fall behind both of them. We had three games Green Bay, Denver, and KC with better offense and QB play I think we would have won those games.

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[quote=Chico23231;1306126]We can’t eff around if we like someone at the QB spot…I’d say go get that guy if everyone is in agreement[/quote]

Agreed got to find a QB. If we continue to just draft BPA will will be early 2000s Bears. A solid defense, okay offense and maybe a division title or two.

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What do we have to trade to get this unknown QB. If we are going after a top QB do we have to give up some of the defensive line players. What kind of value do are players have against first round picks from other teams.

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The problem is you never know with Ron, he doesn’t have a good history of drafting QBs.. Cam Newton was the best player available that year so he had no choice but to take him.

Ron has also said in the past that a rookie QB would have to be special not to pass up..

At the end of the day if we go into 2022 with TH and some other Veteran like Mariota we will be fucked

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[quote=Redskins 2021;1306143]What do we have to trade to get this unknown QB. If we are going after a top QB do we have to give up some of the defensive line players. What kind of value do are players have against first round picks from other teams.[/quote]

Me personally I dont think its realistic to think a Rodgers, Wilson or even Watson would be traded here. Perhaps Derek Carr but not for 2 1Rs plus 3R then having to sign him to a mega deal.

Realistic options:

1. draft one of the top QB prospects
2. Sign a vet placeholder like Marriota and enjoy another year of bottom 5 offense
3. Go with TH or Allen and enjoy another year of bottom 5 offense

Theres no great option.

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I dont mind paying the extension for a new upper level QB. I think we are definitely going to have to open the wallet if we are to get any of the upper or even upper mid level QB.

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Man, Desmond Ridder plays with my QB emotions.

I've never watched a full game of his, just bits and pieces. They are so much better than their competition right now, they don't have to constantly spin the ball down the field.

My final stop, I'm back on the hype train. He will automatically be a top 3 running QB in the league (definitely helpful for a rookie). And the man can fire the that fucking pigskin to all levels.

A lot of runs in this clip, but when he throws it, the ball has that spin that is fun to watch.

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My current draft QB rankings (all imo, I'm no expert):

1. Ridder
2. Corral
3. Howell
4. Pickett (I don't trust a QB that throws the ball with a glove, no matter what, otherwise, I'd have him above Howell)
5. Strong/Willis (kind of a cop out, 2 talented guys that I like, but are opposite ends of the spectrum on how they play in college)

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I don't know much about him but from that highlight reel he looks like a one read quarterback. Today's NFL requires a QB to in some cases go through a complete progression.


[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1306170]Man, Desmond Ridder plays with my QB emotions.

I've never watched a full game of his, just bits and pieces. They are so much better than their competition right now, they don't have to constantly spin the ball down the field.

My final stop, I'm back on the hype train. He will automatically be a top 3 running QB in the league (definitely helpful for a rookie). And the man can fire the that fucking pigskin to all levels.

A lot of runs in this clip, but when he throws it, the ball has that spin that is fun to watch.

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My current draft QB rankings (all imo, I'm no expert):

1. Ridder
2. Corral
3. Howell
4. Pickett (I don't trust a QB that throws the ball with a glove, no matter what, otherwise, I'd have him above Howell)
5. Strong/Willis (kind of a cop out, 2 talented guys that I like, but are opposite ends of the spectrum on how they play in college)[/quote]

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I do like Ridder. I don't know if I like him better than Howell, Corral, or Pickett. Whatever the order is - I'm sure one of them will be a Commander next year.

Let's see how Ridder does against Alabama on Friday. That game alone could boost his draft stock, or the opposite...

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One move I would make is cut Collins and sign Bobby Wagner who will be a cap casualty in Seattle.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1306179]I do like Ridder. I don't know if I like him better than Howell, Corral, or Pickett. Whatever the order is - I'm sure one of them will be a Commander next year.

Let's see how Ridder does against Alabama on Friday. That game alone could boost his draft stock, or the opposite...[/quote]

Yup…but his game against Notre Dame this year was good. You got best safety in the country and nfl talent at CB on ND, he played well.

I think Ridder has a lot to like. I don’t know if he is as strong as the Pittsburgh QB or Corral when it comes to arm talent, but his experience, system, translates.

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Get Ridder the ball, is that what you’re saying? On name alone, better than Pickett (or Blewitt).


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[QUOTE=calia;1306185]Get Ridder the ball, is that what you’re saying? On name alone, better than Pickett (or Blewitt).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Only if he doesn't hold the ball too long. I can see fans wanting him to get Ridder it

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1306188]Only if he doesn't hold the ball too long. I can see fans wanting him to get Ridder it

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I hear you. I looked at the highlight montage, and it was pretty impressive. There were some times where I thought he held the ball too long, only to turn them into fairly long running plays. But it's clear that the speed of NFL defenses will be a real change -- he may still excel in some of the designed runs, but a number of the improv moments probably won't be possible in the pros. But he throws a tight spiral and seems to get a fair bit on the ball.

I have to say, I was also impressed with some of his receivers -- a number of tough contested catches and/or guys hitting the jets once the ball was caught. I would think that a couple of those guys have a future too.

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He would be ok for future. I think they could trade down and get him. The teams looking for QB this year are looking to make noise in playoffs not rebuild.

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I don't get what people see in Ridder as a 1st rounder. He is way too hot and cold from the limited games I have seen. He just isn't the pure accurate thrower like Bruce Young is. But I don't care, if they like him then draft him, coach him up, grind on his footwork and get him right. He is a big physical kid like Josh Allen so maybe he can turn into something similar if we draft him.

We have got to get one of these QB's. But what worries me is do we even have the right people to evaluate a QB. I don't really trust Ron in that department.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1306201]I don't get what people see in Ridder as a 1st rounder. He is way too hot and cold from the limited games I have seen. He just isn't the pure accurate thrower like Bruce Young is. But I don't care, if they like him then draft him, coach him up, grind on his footwork and get him right. He is a big physical kid like Josh Allen so maybe he can turn into something similar if we draft him.

We have got to get one of these QB's. But what worries me is do we even have the right people to evaluate a QB. I don't really trust Ron in that department.[/quote]

We’ll find out tomorrow what he’s made off vs Bama. If he has a good game and beats Bama he’ll leapfrog Pickett.

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We going to be able to draft BPA after we sign Aaron Rodgers!!!! 🤪😂

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[quote=SkinzWin;1306209]We going to be able to draft BPA after we sign Aaron Rodgers!!!! 🤪😂[/quote]

Aaron Rogers is going nowhere but GB, especially if they win the SB.

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On the one hand he'd probably retire rather than come here. On the other is it too far fetched to think he might be tempted to do a Brady?

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[quote=SkinzWin;1306209]We going to be able to draft BPA after we sign Aaron Rodgers!!!! 🤪😂[/quote]

Let's draft our own Aaron Rodgers and have great QB play for 15 years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1306201]I don't get what people see in Ridder as a 1st rounder. He is way too hot and cold from the limited games I have seen. He just isn't the pure accurate thrower like Bruce Young is. But I don't care, if they like him then draft him, coach him up, grind on his footwork and get him right. He is a big physical kid like Josh Allen so maybe he can turn into something similar if we draft him.

We have got to get one of these QB's. But what worries me is do we even have the right people to evaluate a QB. I don't really trust Ron in that department.[/quote]

I like Ridder, but I think he is a project than a plug in play. It’s just that kind of year in the draft for QB.

The more I read, I think the only guy I’m hearing who is truly most NFL ready is the guy from Pitt.

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Herbert kind of sailed under the radar. Had it not been for Taylor's injury he might not even have been starting this year. Anyone in this years draft look like the same kind of possibility?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1306207]We’ll find out tomorrow what he’s made off vs Bama. If he has a good game and beats Bama he’ll leapfrog Pickett.[/quote]

If Ridder is any good I would like to see him play well today. Actually he should play well today. This Bama defense is not an elite one.

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They are top 10 in FBS. So is Cincinnati...

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Desmond Shidder in the 1st half.

Outmanned and outcoached. Bama with a warm-up game before winning yet another title.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1306263]Desmond Shidder in the 1st half.

Outmanned and outcoached. Bama with a warm-up game before winning yet another title.[/quote]

4 batted balls, coaching didn’t help him, way too conservative, some dropped balls by the receivers, held on to ball to long on some sacks. In my opinion he would need to ride the bench for at least a year.