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[quote=punch it in;1311725]Historically, the United States economy has performed better on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents since World War II. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, and stock market returns. The unemployment rate has fallen on average under Democratic presidents, while it has risen on average under Republican presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents.[1][2] Ten of the 11 U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.[3]

But please go on about how Republicans keep the economy churning.[/quote]

Democrats been framing Republicans since 1939. Sons of bitches.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1311728]Democrats been framing Republicans since 1939. Sons of bitches.[/QUOTE]


Ha!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1311723]Laziness definitely crosses party lines.[/QUOTE]


Of course. And no state is all red or all blue. Just because a red state or a blue state lag’s doesn’t mean it is red people or blue people responsible for the lag. Well except in Chicos world.

And Matty, certainly there are shit tons of people that are not working due to underlying circumstances that have nothing to do with being lazy but since the pandemic a lot of capable people just sort of stayed on their couch. Like millions of them.

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[quote=punch it in;1311729]Ha![/quote]

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[quote=punch it in;1311731]Of course. And no state is all red or all blue. Just because a red state or a blue state lag’s doesn’t mean it is red people or blue people responsible for the lag. Well except in Chicos world.

And Matty, certainly there are shit tons of people that are not working due to underlying circumstances that have nothing to do with being lazy [B]but since the pandemic a lot of capable people just sort of stayed on their couch. Like millions of them[/B].[/quote]

I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, but good for them if they can afford to do it.

Maybe it's time we re-think this work to live grind anyway. I'm ready for the 4 day work week.

[URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-12-07/why-people-are-quitting-jobs-and-protesting-work-life-from-the-u-s-to-china"]From the Great Resignation to Lying Flat, Workers Are Opting Out[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1311735]I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, but good for them if they can afford to do it.

Maybe it's time we re-think this work to live grind anyway. I'm ready for the 4 day work week.

[URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-12-07/why-people-are-quitting-jobs-and-protesting-work-life-from-the-u-s-to-china"]From the Great Resignation to Lying Flat, Workers Are Opting Out[/URL][/quote]

There are many of them that can't afford it (with their own money) and are doing it anyways.

I'd work 4 11 hour days and only get paid for 40 hours, if I could have 3 days off every week.

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[quote=MTK;1311735]I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, but good for them if they can afford to do it.

Maybe it's time we re-think this work to live grind anyway. I'm ready for the 4 day work week.

[URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-12-07/why-people-are-quitting-jobs-and-protesting-work-life-from-the-u-s-to-china"]From the Great Resignation to Lying Flat, Workers Are Opting Out[/URL][/quote]

Federal workers in DC have been doing the M though Thurs work week for decades now. Thats why traffic is light around here on Fridays.

I dont need to work less, I need my money to be able to afford more.

I bought a townhouse for 240k 5 years ago. A neighbor just sold their less desirable house for 341k. I got 100k in savings. Pocket perhaps 160k from selling my house now.

I could buy a 500k house comfortably.

A 500k house around the DMV gets me another fucking town house.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1311735]I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, but good for them if they can afford to do it.

Maybe it's time we re-think this work to live grind anyway. I'm ready for the 4 day work week.

[URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-12-07/why-people-are-quitting-jobs-and-protesting-work-life-from-the-u-s-to-china"]From the Great Resignation to Lying Flat, Workers Are Opting Out[/URL][/QUOTE]


I don’t think most of them can afford to do it, maybe, but they probably aren’t rolling like they used to. I think there is a huge sect of them that just think they are rebellious or something. Probably the same assholes who think there are not speed limits anymore. Man people drive like jerk offs since the pandemic when cops weren’t really giving tickets. If it’s because somehow they can afford not to go to work, we’ll definitely good for them. I come across enough money to stop i am too. Im all about a four day work week!

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[quote=SunnySide;1311743]Federal workers in DC have been doing the M though Thurs work week for decades now. Thats why traffic is light around here on Fridays.

I dont need to work less, I need my money to be able to afford more.

I bought a townhouse for 240k 5 years ago. A neighbor just sold their less desirable house for 341k. I got 100k in savings. Pocket perhaps 160k from selling my house now.

I could buy a 500k house comfortably.

A 500k house around the DMV gets me another fucking town house.[/quote]

Yeah I'm a Fed myself, not interested in doing four 10 hr days though, I want four 8 hr days, same pay.

Housing costs are just getting to be outrageous.

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[quote=SunnySide;1311743]Federal workers in DC have been doing the M though Thurs work week for decades now. Thats why traffic is light around here on Fridays.

I dont need to work less, I need my money to be able to afford more.

I bought a townhouse for 240k 5 years ago. A neighbor just sold their less desirable house for 341k. I got 100k in savings. Pocket perhaps 160k from selling my house now.

I could buy a 500k house comfortably.

A 500k house around the DMV gets me another fucking town house.[/quote]
Join me in Parkton

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[QUOTE=MTK;1311762]Yeah I'm a Fed myself, not interested in doing four 10 hr days though, I want four 8 hr days, same pay.

Housing costs are just getting to be outrageous.[/QUOTE]


Vote for Matty 2024!!!!

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[quote=SunnySide;1311743]Federal workers in DC have been doing the M though Thurs work week for decades now. Thats why traffic is light around here on Fridays.

I dont need to work less, I need my money to be able to afford more.

I bought a townhouse for 240k 5 years ago. A neighbor just sold their less desirable house for 341k. I got 100k in savings. Pocket perhaps 160k from selling my house now.

I could buy a 500k house comfortably.

A 500k house around the DMV gets me another fucking town house.[/quote]
You have to move out of DC but 500 grand can buy you a nice place.

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[quote=Chico23231;1311646]Anybody questioning Brown is a racist, we def didn’t see this coming.

Never mind Liberals falsely accuse Kavenaugh of rape and gang rape with not one shred of evidence or ACB is a white colonizer or racist because she adopted Haitian kids.[/quote]

Honk Honk!

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[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pressure-grows-biden-ban-us-imports-russian-oil-2022-03-03/[/url]

Pressure grows on Biden to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil

A bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced a bill on Thursday to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil, saying the shipments could be replaced by boosting output in North America and other places.

Time to get a vote on record on who actually supports Russia

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[quote=Chico23231;1311788][url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pressure-grows-biden-ban-us-imports-russian-oil-2022-03-03/[/url]

Pressure grows on Biden to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil

A bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced a bill on Thursday to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil, saying the shipments could be replaced by boosting output in North America and other places.

Time to get a vote on record on who actually supports Russia[/quote]

Do you, Tucker Carlson and every conservative promise to scream about even higher gas prices and blame it all on President Biden once he signs it?

March 7, 2022 -- "Biden is financing Putins invasion!"

March 17, 2022 -- "Gas was never above $4 when Donald J Trump was president .. during the pandemic .. when no one around the world was driving and the demand for gas was low ... "

Gotta promise me that what ever way this goes .. its all CRTs fault. And Immigration. And the Stolen Election. And pedophiles with lasers starting fires.

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Seems to be a crack in the republican structure ..............


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-renews-nato-criticism-russias-074544823.html[/url]


Trump renews NATO criticism after Russia's invasion of Ukraine

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[quote=Chico23231;1311788][url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pressure-grows-biden-ban-us-imports-russian-oil-2022-03-03/[/url]

Pressure grows on Biden to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil

A bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced a bill on Thursday to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil, saying the shipments could be replaced by boosting output in North America and other places.

Time to get a vote on record on who actually supports Russia[/quote]

I think the most important thing out of this is bipartisanship. Get the bill passed. The president signs it and then Senate and Congress need to defend president when prices don't go down instead of going back to their bases. First it is not like flipping on a light switch and second OPEC will always dictate prices.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1311861]I think the most important thing out of this is bipartisanship. Get the bill passed. The president signs it and then Senate and Congress need to defend president when prices don't go down instead of going back to their bases. First it is not like flipping on a light switch and second OPEC will always dictate prices.[/quote]

That shouldn't mean he can't be attacked if he continues his idiotic domestic energy production/infrastructure policies. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be backing off from what he did last year.

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[quote=nonniey;1311862]That shouldn't mean he can't be attacked if he continues his idiotic domestic energy production/infrastructure policies. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be backing off from what he did last year.[/quote]

What he did last year is not at issue right now and certainly not the reason prices are what they are.

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[quote=SunnySide;1311849]Do you, Tucker Carlson and every conservative promise to scream about even higher gas prices and blame it all on President Biden once he signs it?

March 7, 2022 -- "Biden is financing Putins invasion!"

March 17, 2022 -- "Gas was never above $4 when Donald J Trump was president .. during the pandemic .. when no one around the world was driving and the demand for gas was low ... "

Gotta promise me that what ever way this goes .. its all CRTs fault. And Immigration. And the Stolen Election. And pedophiles with lasers starting fires.[/quote]

Yes absolutely because when you come into office and ban fracking, the pipeline (both laughable, poor decisions), allow pipelines to be hacked by Russians, shutdown leases and drilling…yet you incompetently remove sanctions on Nordstream 2..you effectively making policy decisions to impact people wallet and inflation here in this country. And for what?

We could be pumping 2 million barrels per day, but you rather engage Iran and Venezuela for oil? How fucking high and incompetent is this President?

Biden is to blame, period. Russia just didn’t do this invasion over night, they been sitting there waiting.

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[quote=Chico23231;1311869]?

Biden is to blame, period. Russia just didn’t do this invasion over night, they been sitting there waiting.[/quote]



[B]Seriously , the dumbest shit you've posted![/B]

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I would love to see this Lady slapped down chico like she does this moron from FOX! As usual facts shut up the trump sheep!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/jen-psaki-schools-fox-news-000415892.html[/url]

HuffPost
Jen Psaki Schools Fox News' Peter Doocy With Facts: 'I Know That Can Be Inconvenient'

Jen Psaki


Mary Papenfuss
Mon, March 7, 2022, 7:04 PM
In this article:

Jen Psaki

American political advisor and White House press secretary
No-nonsense White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Monday used “facts” to shoot down hectoring questions on mounting gasoline prices from Fox News reporter Peter Doocy. “I know that can be inconvenient,” she noted sarcastically.

Doocy pressed her on fuel prices as he dismissed the widely held position that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has triggered the recent leap in costs — and instead blamed Biden administration policies.

“There’s no question” the price hikes are a “direct result of the invasion of Ukraine,” Psaki responded. “Federal policies are not limiting the supplies of oil and gas,” she added.

When Doocy interrupted her, Psaki fired back: “Peter, let me give you the facts here. I know that can be inconvenient, but I think they’re important in this moment.”

Biden administration officials have been “clear” about the need for the U.S. oil supply to meet demand while also pushing for a shift to renewable energy sources, she said.

Psaki pointed out that the U.S. is one of the world’s largest producers of oil and gas, noting that oil production in the nation is at “record numbers.”

Meanwhile, there are “9,000 approved drilling permits that are not being used, so the suggestion that we are not allowing companies to drill is inaccurate,” Psaki added. “I would suggest you ask the oil companies why they’re not using those if there’s a desire to drill more.”

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^^^^^

The oil game is a crazy fucking game. So many actors, levers, countries, groups, corporations, politicians, etc., etc.

I really need to read more about it. I have no idea how to cut the blame pie.

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Blame is who is running the country. Democrats have the President and the Congress. Their strategy with energy and their failed policy toward Russia are direct contributors to this effort

Also we know gas, heating cost have risen as a direct result based on their policy day 1 and way before the Ukraine crisis. While Ukraine will make the problem worse, gas prices have been high way before this started.

But no more mean tweets

There will be no gas lighting Ukraine is the only cost of rising oil price.

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Biden expected to ban Russian energy imports today

From CNN's Kaitlan Collins, Jeremy Diamond, Kevin Liptak and Phil Mattingly

US President Joe Biden is expected to today ban Russian oil, natural gas and coal imports to the US, according to three sources familiar with the decision.

The US will make the move unilaterally, without its European allies, due to disagreement among European nations about whether to ban Russian energy. EU countries have significantly more exposure to Russian energy than the US.

US officials decided, given the extreme political pressure at home, they could move without the coalition and not create major issues.

Biden is expected to address the news at 10:45 a.m. ET.

US imports from Russia make up a small slice of the energy universe — roughly 8% in 2021, of which only about 3% was crude oil. White House economic officials have been engaged for more than a week in how to manage any decision to cut off those imports, according to officials.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-08-22/h_80c41dda8cf19a524b760f9380015787[/url]

Going it alone wout Europe.

Gas was $3.30 gallon in January .. now its $4.17 and about to get a lot higher during the spring summer driving season.

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Is anyone against allowing Venezuela to sell their oil on the global market to ease things? Maduro is a dictator and huge Russia ally but Im all for easing things, Maduro has expressed interest and in some trickle down way that would have to help the people of Venezuela.

Rather get oil from a weak dictator to hurt a strong dictator currently invading a sovereign country.

Perhaps weaken a Russian alliance.

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^ it’s a tough call SS, but I’d try allies to the north in Canada see if we can import additional as well as getting keystone up and running.

Also calling our friends the Saudis too. Especially over that Middle East shithole Iran.

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Fuck the OPEC+ and the Saudis in specifically.

Hopefully 20-40 years from now the world wont be dependent on oil and these gas station dictator monarch shit hole countries can go fuck themselves.

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Short term we need to produce more oil, long term we need to r+D/produce non fossil fuel energy.

20-40 years from now majority of us will be driving E or alt fuel cars. Tractor trailers, fed ex trucks, amazon trucks, school buses = all electric.

Currently 70% of the oil used in the US is consumed by personal vehicles.

Teslas for everyone.

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Bidens Build Better would have given us electric school buses vs our diesel powered ones.

Conservatives - "We need to increase domestic production ASAP!"

Liberals - 'We need to replace gas powered vehicles ASAP!"

We need to do both.

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[quote=Chico23231;1311906]^ it’s a tough call SS, but I’d try allies to the north in Canada see if we can import additional as well as getting keystone up and running.

Also calling our friends the Saudis too. Especially over that Middle East shithole Iran.[/quote]

"Our friends" the Saudis ? chico, how many Americans are they allowed to kill with the approval of the president before they aren't our friends anymore?

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[quote=SunnySide;1311912]Bidens Build Better would have given us electric school buses vs our diesel powered ones.

Conservatives - "We need to increase domestic production ASAP!"

Liberals - 'We need to replace gas powered vehicles ASAP!"

We need to do both.[/quote]

SS the infrastructure bill gave 5 billion for electric school buses, there was bipartisan support for that!

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[quote=Chico23231;1311918]SS the infrastructure bill gave 5 billion for electric school buses, there was bipartisan support for that![/quote]

5B is chump change, apparently 2.5B goes to E buses and 2.5 goes to "clean energy" buses.

25B will replace 20% of the school buses.

Sen Padilla (D) introduced the 'Clean Commute for Kids Act of 2021" on 4/21/21 to give 25B to electric school buses .. it was read twice then sent to committee on 4/21/21 and its been stuck in committee since 4/21/21.

[url]https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1271/text?r=4&s=1[/url]

Wish we could get bi-partisan support for easing of oil production right now with money to increase E vehicles.

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1 side says there are thousands of drilling permits not being used.

1 side says drilling on federal land has been suspended.

Are the "available permits" in way less profitable spots than on federal lands?

Everyone involved in the oil game is not for every day Americans or really every day "insert country".

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1312077]1 side says there are thousands of drilling permits not being used.

1 side says drilling on federal land has been suspended.

Are the "available permits" in way less profitable spots than on federal lands?

Everyone involved in the oil game is not for every day Americans or really every day "insert country".[/quote]

Believe much of the land that have permits requires fracking to extract the oil and the Biden Administration has banned fracking on Federal land - so a catch 22.

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[quote=nonniey;1312093]Believe much of the land that have permits requires fracking to extract the oil and the Biden Administration has banned fracking on Federal land - so a catch 22.[/quote]

So some of the thousands of un-used drilling permits are actually on federal lands, but basically un-usable based on fracking bans?

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I nominate Germany as the most useless fucking country in world history.

If they aren't starting wars, they are shoving all of their private parts back into their abdominals.

Being a German must be embarrassing.

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Nevermind

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[quote=Chico23231;1311918]SS the infrastructure bill gave 5 billion for electric school buses, there was bipartisan support for that![/quote]

.................................ignoring my question ???

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[url]https://www.fiskerinc.com/reserve/ocean[/url]

[url]https://www.lucidmotors.com/[/url]

Looking into e vehicles .. figured id end up with a used tesla but these new companies are interesting.

That photo is Fisker Ocean at starts at 38k ..

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Laura Ingraham shows a graphic of Trump accomplishments and it shows blank tiles [url]https://mobile.twitter.com/acyn/status/1501036990904475649[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312364]Laura Ingraham shows a graphic of Trump accomplishments and it shows blank tiles [url]https://mobile.twitter.com/acyn/status/1501036990904475649[/url][/quote]

Rising wages? LOL.

How much did Trump raise the minimum wage to help out the poorest working Americans?

How much has inflation and the COL gone up since minimum wage last rose in 2009?