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[quote=Chico23231;1314614]I looked up those tackle prospects…all look to have the same quality, better use at guard. Look like we will be adding young talent to replace Schreff which makes sense.[/quote]

I know weve missed a bit lately on 3R or 4R guards (Martin, Arie, Charles is on roster but a ? mark)

but I love taking a guard or center in the 3R or 4R.

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Olave - id feel like we reached if we took the 3rd best WR at 11, I love his foot work. The highlight reels seem to showcase his footwork, route running and sideline awareness. If we traded down in the 1st Id love the pick.

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22 more days until April 28th .. gesus

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We don't have a 3rd round pick this year.

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Right...forgot about that

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1314627]Right...forgot about that[/quote]

Gonna need to hit on at least a couple UDFA's again this year, due to only having 6 picks, with 2 of those being 7th rounders.

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11. Derek Stingley Jr. - CB - LSU
47. Desmond Ridder - QB - Cincinnati
113. Wan'Dale Robinson - WR - Kentucky
189. Ellis Brooks - LB - Penn State
230. Percy Butler - S - Louisiana
240. Dylan Parham - OG - Memphis

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Iowa State RB Breece Hall visited Washington earlier this week; has good speed (4.39) and vision.

Michigan State RB Kenneth Walker III coming in later this week as well, it's clear as has been stated this offseason that adding an RB is definitely possible. with 17 games, important to have quality depth and a strong 1-2 punch as well.

— #PSU S Jaquan Brisker is with the Commanders tomorrow and Friday. twitter.com/RapSheet/stat


Getting more RB help is a must

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[quote=Chico23231;1314650]Iowa State RB Breece Hall visited Washington earlier this week; has good speed (4.39) and vision.

Michigan State RB Kenneth Walker III coming in later this week as well, it's clear as has been stated this offseason that adding an RB is definitely possible. with 17 games, important to have quality depth and a strong 1-2 punch as well.

— #PSU S Jaquan Brisker is with the Commanders tomorrow and Friday. twitter.com/RapSheet/stat


Getting more RB help is a must[/quote]

I'd say yes too but really what they need is a big bruiser...Gibson/JD/Patterson all similar traits which are good...but how great would a big guy be that was solid at the 3rd and 1 carries...and could line up in a FB role as well...if there is such a thing in this offense.

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[quote=Redskins247;1314666]I'd say yes too but really what they need is a big bruiser...Gibson/JD/Patterson all similar traits which are good...but how great would a big guy be that was solid at the 3rd and 1 carries...and could line up in a FB role as well...if there is such a thing in this offense.[/quote]

I would have Logan Thomas do the short yardage situations. We did that a few times 2 years ago and it was successful every time if I remember correctly.

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I would have thought that Bates is the best guy for that sort of job

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Ohio State beat writer discusses Wilson and Olave
[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/commanders-fans-garrett-wilson-and-chris-olave-will-enjoy-discussion[/url]

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We tried Thomas a few times putting him in the backfield on 4th and short and as wildcat, I dont think they were that successful. Bates out of back field is a no for me.

Wentz is really good at QB sneaks.

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[quote=Redskins247;1314666]I'd say yes too but really what they need is a big bruiser...Gibson/JD/Patterson all similar traits which are good...but how great would a big guy be that was solid at the 3rd and 1 carries...and could line up in a FB role as well...if there is such a thing in this offense.[/quote]

Yeah I’d like a little more power myself. Gibson is good, but the fumbling and some of the shots he takes…me thinks 1-2 punch would help. JD is just a baller but he’s that passing/3rd down back…not meant to carry a load of Gibson would miss time.

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[quote=Chico23231;1314650]Iowa State RB Breece Hall visited Washington earlier this week; has good speed (4.39) and vision.

Michigan State RB Kenneth Walker III coming in later this week as well, it's clear as has been stated this offseason that adding an RB is definitely possible. with 17 games, important to have quality depth and a strong 1-2 punch as well.

— #PSU S Jaquan Brisker is with the Commanders tomorrow and Friday. twitter.com/RapSheet/stat


Getting more RB help is a must[/quote]

Breece and Walker are both excellent backs. Breece checks all the boxes for size, speed, quickness, power, and production. He would complete our backfield. Also, as someone who has little confidence in Wentz, I think we had better have a very good running game.

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ESPN's Jordan Reid did a 7-round mock for all the teams. Here's what he has for us:

1st Rd: Drake London, WR, USC
2nd Rd: Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina
4th Rd: Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati
6th Rd: Braxton Jones, OT, Southern Utah
7th Rd: Derrick Deese Jr., TE, San Jose State
7th Rd: Jason Poe, IOL, Mercer

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Chicago will send the No. 20 overall pick in the 2021 NFL draft, a 2021 fifth-round pick (No. 164 overall) and a first-round pick and fourth-round pick in the 2022 NFL draft.

Giants trade: Pick 11

Bears trade: Pick 20, 164, 2022 first-round pick and 2022 fourth-round pick.

[url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/29/new-york-giants-acquire-2022-first-round-pick-trade-down-chciago-bears/[/url]

The Bears 2022 pick ended up being the no. 7 overall pick.

NYG have the no. 5 and no. 7 overall picks.


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Eagles have picks no. 15 and no. 18 this year, plus Saints 2023 1st rounder, Saints 2024 second rounder

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Bit jealous of all that 1st round draft capital in our division. Plus both could trade down or out and stock even more.

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Commanders' today hosted Texas A&M RB Isaiah Spiller today per Ben Standig

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[quote=Chico23231;1314853]Commanders' today hosted Texas A&M RB Isaiah Spiller today per Ben Standig[/quote]

Spiller can do it all. He would be a good choice.

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So they have hosted private visits with the top 3 RBs in this draft. You definitely can't get either of these guys in round 4...

Are they going to try to add a third round pick, or are they targeting one of these RBs in round 2?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1314869]So they have hosted private visits with the top 3 RBs in this draft. You definitely can't get either of these guys in round 4...

Are they going to try to add a third round pick, or are they targeting one of these RBs in round 2?[/quote]

I'd suggest it was more due diligence. We are not desperate for a new RB, but if we're looking at one of them being BPA when we pick, then best to assess them fully than take a chance. Plus it could be sounding out value for our pick too. If someone who need RB comes a calling, can't hurt to be aware of the value of the available guys when it comes to pick value.

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Down to the 2-week warning. Wanted to do a draft where the safety was 1st pick. Hamilton wasn't available. I think Hill will be good too.

11: R1 P11 - S Daxton Hill - Michigan
47: R2 P15 - WR Christian Watson - North Dakota State
113: R4 P8 - LB Damone Clark - LSU
189: R6 P10 - OT Spencer Burford - UTSA
230: R7 P9 - G Cole Schneider - Central Florida
240: R7 P19 - TE Daniel Bellinger - San Diego State

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Interesting article about the timing of the draft vs. start of free agency.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33729902/why-nfl-free-agency-draft-how-offseason-schedule-impacts-roster-building-decisions-big-money-deals-more[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315009]Down to the 2-week warning. Wanted to do a draft where the safety was 1st pick. Hamilton wasn't available. I think Hill will be good too.

11: R1 P11 - S Daxton Hill - Michigan
47: R2 P15 - WR Christian Watson - North Dakota State
113: R4 P8 - LB Damone Clark - LSU
189: R6 P10 - OT Spencer Burford - UTSA
230: R7 P9 - G Cole Schneider - Central Florida
240: R7 P19 - TE Daniel Bellinger - San Diego State[/quote]

I think your mock draft is sneaky good. Watson has everything you would want in a WR. He can definitely play outside and become a solid #2. Damone Clark is a sleeper. Bellinger is a steal in round 7.

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Seems like Hamilton right now is the trendy pick at 11 for us. What does everyone think about that possibility? It's a deep WR draft, should be plenty of options in round 2 if we went Hamilton in the 1st.

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[quote=MTK;1315093]Seems like Hamilton right now is the trendy pick at 11 for us. What does everyone think about that possibility? It's a deep WR draft, should be plenty of options in round 2 if we went Hamilton in the 1st.[/quote]

I will be pumped if we get him. Would be nice to have someone that can be a gamechanger at safety.

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Kyle Hamilton has become one of the more polarizing prospects in this year’s draft class. Seen as a prime candidate to fall down the board, the former Notre Dame safety has been the source of speculation regarding his ultimate landing spot in the first round. Today, he is meeting with the Commanders, per NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport (Twitter link).

Hamilton had a highly productive three-year career with the Fighting Irish. He totalled 138 tackles and eight interceptions, demonstrating positional flexibility and leadership qualities along the way. [B]His testing numbers, season-ending knee injury and overall athletic profile, however, have led to a belief he could drop to at least the second half of the first round[/B]. He has visited the Lions, though there is currently no expectation he would be considered with the No. 2 pick.

[url]https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/04/commanders-hosting-kyle-hamilton[/url]

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Hamilton got off to an electric beginning of the day at weigh-ins, coming in even larger than his listed height and weight at Notre Dame. His workout started much of the same - spectacular. The dynamic defensive back would post eye popping numbers in both the vertical (38”) and broad jump (10’11”), easily living up to the billing as an athletic freak on the backend.

Of course all the spotlight was on Hamilton heading into the most glorified event of the entire combine - the forty yard dash. With 4.4 or greater rumors surfacing, Hamilton did not come close to hitting those numbers, finishing with an official time of 4.59, which tied for the lowest mark of the safeties at the combine.

Kyle Hamilton (Official Numbers):

Height: 6’4 1/8”
Weight: 220 pounds
Arm length: 33”
Hand size: 9 1/8”

40 Time: 4.59 seconds
Vertical Jump: 38”
Broad Jump: 10’11”
3 Cone Drill: 4.32
Short Shuttle: 6.97

[url]https://www.si.com/college/notredame/football/notre-dame-football-kyle-hamilton-combine-performance-up-and-down[/url]

Hes a "jumbo" safety ... cant say Ive heard that term before.

If he is there at 11 ... hed be a great pick, fills a huge need.

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[quote=MTK;1315093]Seems like Hamilton right now is the trendy pick at 11 for us. What does everyone think about that possibility? It's a deep WR draft, should be plenty of options in round 2 if we went Hamilton in the 1st.[/quote]

I’d like the pick. He would be the fit as the Buffalo nickel. I think he has the ability to play deep in some sets and would be a big body guy who could cover TEs in the red zone.

I see a guy who could really move around a develop in this defense. Great pick.

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I would be happy if we drafted Hamilton too. Our defense got much better when Collins moved to the buffalo position, which shows how valuable that position is to our defense.

Rivera mentioned that they are open to the idea of trading up to draft a safety in 2nd/3rd round pick if someone they like falls down. Keim mentioned that Daxton Hill and Jaquan Brisker also are good options if Hamilton is not available.

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Less than 10 days!! Man, the draft is like Christmas for football fans. I need one of those things where you pull a coin/item out every day until you get there.

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Just watched some highlights of Hamilton, I don't care what his 40 time is he plays with great anticipation which more than makes up for any lack of speed.

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Hamilton is the only player in this draft who, if he is still available at 11, I'm not entertaining any trade offers.

Pick him.

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There are always a few guys every year that lose the random shit lottery of teams/scouts trying to find reasons to push them down the board.

Hamilton is a damn good football player, I hope 10 teams ahead of us make this mistake (or the teams picking 6-10, there are other legitimate options in the top 5).

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11: R1 P11 - WR - Chris Olave - Ohio State
47: R2 P15 - TE - Trey McBride - Colorado State
113: R4 P8 - LB - Leo Chenal - Wisconsin
189: R6 P10 - CB - Kalon Barnes - Baylor
230: R7 P9 - S - Percy Butler - Louisiana
240: R7 P19 - OT - Vederian Lowe - Ilinois

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Here is some draft stuff I've picked up recently from analysts who are familiar with the Commanders schemes and thought process:

First, Keim says that the Coms [U]will[/U] [U]not[/U] take a QB at #11. Matt Bowen points out that QB's rise fast as the draft approaches which is good for the Coms because he believes that two QB's will go in the Top 10 (Pickett and Willis) which means that two excellent non-QB players will slip to #11.

Per Keim, the only safety that the Coms might take At #11 is Kyle Hamilton. They love Hamilton as a hybrid S/LB who could be very disruptive in the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense. Matt Bowen likes Dax Hill and Jaquan Brisker at S in the second round because of their versatility. He says Dax could play CB as well as S and that Jaquan compares to Micah Hyde as a Multi-dimensional player.

A WR could be the pick at #11 but Bowen says that only Drake London and Garrett Wilson are good enough to be picked in the Top 11. Numerous mock drafts have London going to the Coms in Round 1 and he would be a great fit. The Coms seem to prefer Chris Olave over Wilson but Keim says that's only because the FO believes that Wilson will be gone by the time they draft. Fred Smoot thinks that (after London, Wilson and possibly Jameson Williams) there are another dozen very good WR prospects among whom there is not much separation in ability. Fred wants a big guy at WR who can catch the "bad balls".

To the surprise of nobody on this site Fred Smoot says we need to address the CB position. Fred says that if Darryl Stingley Jr. falls to #11 and the Coms don't select him it would be the "biggest mistake ever for the Commanders". Smoot calls Stingley a "generational player" who would automatically become a #1 corner and the best DB on the team. Nevertheless, Fred did admit to the injury risk of drafting Stingley, saying that Stingley's problem is "not ability but availability". Fred is also very high on Sauce Gardner at CB. Keim likes CB Coby Bryant in the mid-rounds.

As for MLB, Smoot says "we need a QB" on defense. Fred rates Devin Lloyd as the top MLB prospect but allows that there isn't much difference between Lloyd and Chad Muma. Matt Bowen pointed out that a MLB in today's NFL must be a "three down guy". Matt is also high on Chad Muma and Christian Harris, both of whom could be available in Round 2. Quay Walker and Troy Anderson were also mentioned. Keim made it clear that the FO values the Hybrid S/LB position over the MLB position and said that if given the choice between Hamilton or Lloyd at #11 the Coms would take Hamilton.

Finally, Keim said without enthusiasm that if a top OL were to fall out of the Top 10, then OL could be a possibility at #11.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1315117]Here is some draft stuff I've picked up recently from analysts who are familiar with the Commanders schemes and thought process:

First, Keim says that the Coms [U]will[/U] [U]not[/U] take a QB at #11. Matt Bowen points out that QB's rise fast as the draft approaches which is good for the Coms because he believes that two QB's will go in the Top 10 (Pickett and Willis) which means that two excellent non-QB players will slip to #11.

[B]Per Keim, the only safety that the Coms might take At #11 is Kyle Hamilton. They love Hamilton as a hybrid S/LB who could be very disruptive in the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense. Matt Bowen likes Dax Hill and Jaquan Brisker at S in the second round because of their versatility. He says Dax could play CB as well as S and that Jaquan compares to Micah Hyde as a Multi-dimensional player.[/B]

A WR could be the pick at #11 but Bowen says that only Drake London and Garrett Wilson are good enough to be picked in the Top 11. Numerous mock drafts have London going to the Coms in Round 1 and he would be a great fit. The Coms seem to prefer Chris Olave over Wilson but Keim says that's only because the FO believes that Wilson will be gone by the time they draft. Fred Smoot thinks that (after London, Wilson and possibly Jameson Williams) there are another dozen very good WR prospects among whom there is not much separation in ability. Fred wants a big guy at WR who can catch the "bad balls".

To the surprise of nobody on this site Fred Smoot says we need to address the CB position. Fred says that if Darryl Stingley Jr. falls to #11 and the Coms don't select him it would be the "biggest mistake ever for the Commanders". Smoot calls Stingley a "generational player" who would automatically become a #1 corner and the best DB on the team. Nevertheless, Fred did admit to the injury risk of drafting Stingley, saying that Stingley's problem is "not ability but availability". Fred is also very high on Sauce Gardner at CB. Keim likes CB Coby Bryant in the mid-rounds.

As for MLB, Smoot says "we need a QB" on defense. Fred rates Devin Lloyd as the top MLB prospect but allows that there isn't much difference between Lloyd and Chad Muma. Matt Bowen pointed out that a MLB in today's NFL must be a "three down guy". Matt is also high on Chad Muma and Christian Harris, both of whom could be available in Round 2. Quay Walker and Troy Anderson were also mentioned. Keim made it clear that the FO values the Hybrid S/LB position over the MLB position and said that if given the choice between Hamilton or Lloyd at #11 the Coms would take Hamilton.

Finally, Keim said without enthusiasm that if a top OL were to fall out of the Top 10, then OL could be a possibility at #11.[/quote]

Lots of helpful stuff here, thanks!

I'd be happy with any of these 3 in the rounds they were discussed.

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the "Coms", Fucking horrible!

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[quote=jamf;1315120]the "Coms", Fucking horrible![/quote]

Give me a break. There isn't much for me to work with here. Blame Snyder.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1315121]Give me a break. There isn't much for me to work with here. Blame Snyder.[/quote]

LOL, I'm calling them the Manders for short.

When your team name has approximately 12 syllables, you're going to get all kinds of nicknames you won't like.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1315121]Blame Snyder.[/quote]

I do.

Go Commies!

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If the Giants can be called G-Men why can't the Commanders be called C-Men?