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Sounds like with our first pic we could go BPA or QB and still work on the O line through out the remainder of the draft

How does this offensive line class stack up to the past few years?

Kiper: There is legit All-Pro talent at the top of Round 1, and there's enough to depth to find rookie starters on Day 2. It's a really solid group, though it might not reach the eight first-round linemen we saw in 2022 (there were five in 2023). Left tackles Olumuyiwa Fashanu (Penn State) and Joe Alt (Notre Dame) could be top-10 picks. Taliese Fuaga (Oregon State) and Amarius Mims (Georgia) are right tackles with high upside. I also see Troy Fautanu (Washington) as an elite guard prospect. And that's just five of the very best of the class; if I listed all the guys I liked you'd probably stop reading.

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4. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Troy Fautanu - OG - Washington
40. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
68. Jaylan Ford - LB - Texas
96. Max Melton - CB - Rutgers
100. Zach Frazier - OC - West Virginia
132. Jaheim Bell - TE - Florida State
164. Anthony Belton - OT - NC State
196. Ray Davis - RB - Kentucky

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4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu – OT – Penn State
36. Troy Fautanu – OG – Washington
40. Quinyon Mitchell – CB – Toledo
68. Bralen Trice – EDGE – Washington
96. Tommy Eichenberg – LB – Ohio State
100. Ben Sinnott – TE – Kansas State
132. Junior Colson – LB – Michigan
164. Zak Zinter – OG – Michigan
196. Jo’Oquavious Marks – RB – Mississippi State

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1353943]4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu – OT – Penn State
36. Troy Fautanu – OG – Washington
40. Quinyon Mitchell – CB – Toledo
68. Bralen Trice – EDGE – Washington
96. Tommy Eichenberg – LB – Ohio State
100. Ben Sinnott – TE – Kansas State
132. Junior Colson – LB – Michigan
164. Zak Zinter – OG – Michigan
196. Jo’Oquavious Marks – RB – Mississippi State[/quote]

Man, I know I've done a lot of mock drafts. I know all of those names besides 196.

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The fix the worst units on both side of the ball draft:

4. Joe Alt - OT - Notre Dame
36. Troy Fautanu - OG - Washington
40. Donovan Jackson - OG - Ohio State
68. Jaylan Ford - LB - Texas
96. Jackson Powers-Johnson - OC - Oregon
100. Tate Ratledge - OG - Georgia
132. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
164. Layden Robinson - OG - Texas A&M
196. Roger Rosengarten - OT - Washington

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1353945]The fix the worst units on both side of the ball draft:

4. Joe Alt - OT - Notre Dame
36. Troy Fautanu - OG - Washington
40. Donovan Jackson - OG - Ohio State
68. Jaylan Ford - LB - Texas
96. Jackson Powers-Johnson - OC - Oregon
100. Tate Ratledge - OG - Georgia
132. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
164. Layden Robinson - OG - Texas A&M
196. Roger Rosengarten - OT - Washington[/quote]

LOL. I had to laugh at this. On the other hand, we've screwed up the draft so many times, this might be the way to go.

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4. Joe Alt OT Notre Dame
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
50. Emeka Egbuka WR Ohio State
75. Zach Frazier OC West Virginia
96. Ben Sinnott TE Kansas State
100. Adisa Isaac EDGE Penn State
132. Jaden Hicks S Washington State
196. Daequan Hardy CB Penn State

Via trades:
2025 HOU 3rd
2025 DEN 3rd

Right now, depending on FA's available for the remaining holes, I'd be very happy with this.

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I accepted every trade offer. Only made picks when there was no offer. This website (PFN) is drunk as fuck about how many trades there are. 8 picks in the 2nd round in 2025 baby!!

69. Chris Braswell - EDGE - Alabama
75. Max Melton - CB - Rutgers
79. Tommy Eichenberg - LB - Ohio State
100. Jaheim Bell - TE - Florida State
101. Delmar Glaze - OT - Maryland
104. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
107. Johnny Wilson - WR - Florida State
109. James Williams - S - Miami (FL)
112. Deontae Lawson - LB - Alabama
115. Brevyn Spann-Ford - TE - Minnesota
125. Luke Lachey - TE - Iowa
127. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
135. Sataoa Laumea - OT - Utah
136. Layden Robinson - OG - Texas A&M
143. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
149. Isaiah Adams - OG - Illinois
151. Anthony Belton OT - NC State
157. Ashton Gillotte - EDGE - Louisville
165. Braelon Allen - RB - Wisconsin
184. Jaylon Carlies - S - Missouri
196. Zak Zinter - OG - Michigan
197. Daequan Hardy - CB - Penn State
215. Reuben Fatheree II - OT - Texas A&M
- 2025 NYJ 2nd
- 2025 PIT 2nd
- 2025 CIN 2nd
- 2025 NO 2nd
- 2025 CLE 2nd
- 2025 DEN 2nd
- 2025 TEN 2nd
- 2025 KC 3rd
- 2025 DEN 3rd
- 2025 NYJ 3rd
- 2025 TEN 3rd
- 2025 ATL 3rd
- 2025 NYJ 4th

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well that's never happening. funny though.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1354029]I accepted every trade offer. Only made picks when there was no offer. This website (PFN) is drunk as fuck about how many trades there are. 8 picks in the 2nd round in 2025 baby!!

69. Chris Braswell - EDGE - Alabama
75. Max Melton - CB - Rutgers
79. Tommy Eichenberg - LB - Ohio State
100. Jaheim Bell - TE - Florida State
101. Delmar Glaze - OT - Maryland
104. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
107. Johnny Wilson - WR - Florida State
109. James Williams - S - Miami (FL)
112. Deontae Lawson - LB - Alabama
115. Brevyn Spann-Ford - TE - Minnesota
125. Luke Lachey - TE - Iowa
127. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
135. Sataoa Laumea - OT - Utah
136. Layden Robinson - OG - Texas A&M
143. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
149. Isaiah Adams - OG - Illinois
151. Anthony Belton OT - NC State
157. Ashton Gillotte - EDGE - Louisville
165. Braelon Allen - RB - Wisconsin
184. Jaylon Carlies - S - Missouri
196. Zak Zinter - OG - Michigan
197. Daequan Hardy - CB - Penn State
215. Reuben Fatheree II - OT - Texas A&M
- 2025 NYJ 2nd
- 2025 PIT 2nd
- 2025 CIN 2nd
- 2025 NO 2nd
- 2025 CLE 2nd
- 2025 DEN 2nd
- 2025 TEN 2nd
- 2025 KC 3rd
- 2025 DEN 3rd
- 2025 NYJ 3rd
- 2025 TEN 3rd
- 2025 ATL 3rd
- 2025 NYJ 4th[/QUOTE]


Lol. This is great. I have done the same thing but never was able to acquire so many picks. There are some solid picks in there!

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[quote=punch it in;1354062]Lol. This is great. I have done the same thing but never was able to acquire so many picks. There are some solid picks in there![/quote]

This would easily be the best draft in the history of sports. It's beyond absurd. The options for trades is cool, but their trade feature isn't anywhere close to reasonable.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1354063]This would easily be the best draft in the history of sports. It's beyond absurd. The options for trades is cool, but their trade feature isn't anywhere close to reasonable.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm tempted to try and experiment to get all 32 2nd or 3rd round picks via trades.

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It’s going to be interesting if we end up at 3.

Harrison may go number 2 so we could be in play for everyone else besides Caleb.

This issue is, is Alt the LT from ND worth the 3rd pick?

Is Drake Maye better than SH? Is Daniel’s better than SH?

It’s going to be interesting


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354073]It’s going to be interesting if we end up at 3.

Harrison may go number 2 so we could be in play for everyone else besides Caleb.

This issue is, is Alt the LT from ND worth the 3rd pick?

Is Drake Maye better than SH? Is Daniel’s better than SH?

It’s going to be interesting


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I'd say it becomes interesting if we manage the #2 pick. If we're #3, for both the top 2 teams its virtually nailed on they will go QB. Then picking a QB at #3 will be a huge reach, especially if we have SH in the house and the new regime isn't averse to keeping him as the starter.

But #2 would create a bit of a dilemma.

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I think picking #2 overall is within the realm of possibilities. If that happens, we basically have the option of picking 1 of the top two QBs.

I don't think we can end up with the #1 overall pick, and if we pick anywhere in the top 5, our options will depend which team ends up with the top 2 picks. Example: I can see Arizona sticking with Kyler (they have a lot of money tied up on him) and wanting to trade down.

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Man if we have a high pick and the new FO likes someone we can get lower in the draft giddy up!

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I think it is safe to say that without a doubt we are in line for either Alt or Fash. We absolutely need to nail down LT for the next decade.

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[quote=punch it in;1354101]I think it is safe to say that without a doubt we are in line for either Alt or Fash. We absolutely need to nail down LT for the next decade.[/quote]

For now. The possibility exists we get into the top 3 and if real fortunate #2. In that scenario really have to consider QB and WR. That said I think it is a bigger possibility we fall to pick 7-9, I expect to beat the Jets and our SOS is higher than many of the other teams that will likely end up 5-12. in which case we fall out of position for the 2 tackles.

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I've looked at Drake Maye and I don't think he's superior to Sam Howell in any way. He is simply a couple of inches taller.

IMHO, Marvin Harrison, Jr. may well be the best player in the draft. He truly has it all. Nevertheless, if we end up picking third and either one of the top two QBs or Harrison is on the board, I wouldn't mind if we traded down a spot or two and picked up one of the top two OTs and another high second round pick.

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Draft Harrison, use extra picks to trade back up into the 1st to get a LT. Similar to when we drafted Sweat.

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I like Joe Alt with the first round pick.

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Fashanu has the better chance to be Trent Williams. Alt has the higher floor. IMO. I'd be happy with either one.

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Jets Won
Bears Won
Pats Won

There is literally no way I’d even try to win another game if I’m Harris


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I agree ... NO WAY !!! In fact I would fire Ron if they won !!!😀

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354149]Jets Won
Bears Won
Pats Won

There is literally no way I’d even try to win another game if I’m Harris

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What an amazing day! Outside of wining the 1st game under the new regime (I think this base needed to win week 1, even in year 0, we've been through so much), this is our peak. And game 1 was only the peak just to start off the upcoming new era w/ a good start.

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I agree ... NO WAY !!! In fact I would fire Ron if they won !!!😀

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Caleb Williams is a Hurts but more accurate. There is no way I’d pass him up if we have a chance at him


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I hope they DO NOT draft Caleb Williams. TOO MANY red flags with that guy. You can see the cracks in his personality and his game. Basically his game is drop back, run around and make shit happen. Kinda like Kyler. Works fine against Pac 10 defenses. He isn't disciplined enough right now. Penix looks way better as a pro prospect.

Watch, he is going to fall down the draft board and when he does he'll go crying into mommies arms again.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1354223]I hope they DO NOT draft Caleb Williams. TOO MANY red flags with that guy. You can see the[B] cracks in his personality[/B] and his game. Basically his game is drop back, run around and make shit happen. Kinda like Kyler. Works fine against Pac 10 defenses. He isn't disciplined enough right now. Penix looks way better as a pro prospect.

Watch, he is going to fall down the draft board and when he does he'll go [B]crying into mommies arms again.[/B][/quote]

Ok Archie Bunker, its 2023 everyone cries

Not sure if it was you but someone complained about him painting his nails

I don't give a shit if he wears a thong and cries at every game but we are still winning

I really don't know much about him but i wouldn't pass on him for his finger nail color and he cried once after an emotional lost.

Jesus some people need to get out of the Laz Boy and stop yelling at Meathead

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[quote=mredskins;1354233]Ok Archie Bunker, its 2023 everyone cries

Not sure if it was you but someone complained about him painting his nails

I don't give a shit if he wears a thong and cries at every game but we are still winning

I really don't know much about him but i wouldn't pass on him for his finger nail color and he cried once after an emotional lost.

Jesus some people need to get out of the Laz Boy and stop yelling at Meathead[/quote]

It’s definitely a red flag if he puts himself and his brand ahead of the team. Off field issues and flags reman for Williams and when he does the “look at me” bullshit then you can’t be mad when folks call it out. We saw it recently with Haskins and CY

If you want to stick to the field, then admit Caleb Williams wilted this year and didn’t deliver. He was outplayed by Bo Nix and Penix in his conference and couldn’t lift a very talent USC team in the PAC 12.

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[quote=Chico23231;1354234]It’s definitely a red flag if he puts himself and his brand ahead of the team. Off field issues and flags reman for Williams and when he does the “look at me” bullshit then you can’t be mad when folks call it out. We saw it recently with Haskins and CY

If you want to stick to the field, then admit Caleb Williams wilted this year and didn’t deliver. He was outplayed by Bo Nix and Penix in his conference and couldn’t lift a very talent USC team in the PAC 12.[/quote]

Again i really don't know him or follow him; i don't watch much NCAA football but to not pick him over crying and nail painting seemed kind of stupid


I think CY was a good teammate when watching his interactions on the fields; he was super supportive to everyone.

I never thought of CY as a look at me guy; he just never lived up to his billing that the media placed on him

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Watched Caleb live a handful of times at OU. He’s special, he makes throws that most QBs can’t make. He’s also tougher than people think, he takes and delivers hits.

If we are at number 2 and he’s there I wouldn’t pass him up. The Risk Reward is too high to pass a potential Elite QB up. Sam Howell is a good player but what’s his ceiling? Baker Mayfield? Caleb could be a Hurts, Rodgers type Guy.

I know we need alot but we also need a face of the future. Something to look at


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IF we want Caleb we probably need to trade with the bears, which makes me think trading CY and MS was too load more ammo into that trade gun to give to the bears.

Shit we could have even said give us a 2nd for MS and we are going give it right back to you at the draft.

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[quote=mredskins;1354239]IF we want Caleb we probably need to trade with the bears, [B]which makes me think trading CY and MS was too load more ammo [/B]into that trade gun to give to the bears.

Shit we could have even said give us a 2nd for MS and we are going give it right back to you at the draft.[/quote]

I've been saying this since the trades happened.

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1. Maye
2. Penix or Daniels (can't decide who I like more. 2 completely different styles. Hell, then even throw w/ different hands)
4. Williams

I like to do my crying in the privacy of my own home by myself lol. Haven't got around to painting my nails yet. That seems a little too fetch for me.

Also, LOL, at "I don't care if the QB wears a thong". Good one.

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you know these fucking idiots will find a win somewhere

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[quote=skinsfan69;1354223]I hope they DO NOT draft Caleb Williams. TOO MANY red flags with that guy. You can see the cracks in his personality and his game. Basically his game is drop back, run around and make shit happen. Kinda like Kyler. [B]Works fine against Pac 10 defenses[/B]. He isn't disciplined enough right now. Penix looks way better as a pro prospect.

Watch, he is going to fall down the draft board and when he does he'll go crying into mommies arms again.[/quote]

I will give that some credence though, if he isn't playing difficult teams, they are gone make him look better. Solid point

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[quote=mredskins;1354235]Again i really don't know him or follow him; i don't watch much NCAA football but to not pick him over crying and nail painting seemed kind of stupid


I think CY was a good teammate when watching his interactions on the fields; he was super supportive to everyone.

I never thought of CY as a look at me guy; he just never lived up to his billing that the media placed on him[/quote]

Well there are expectations for a second pick in the entire draft. And he hasn't met those, and may not ever, nevermind what the media said about him.

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What's more important the System or the player ? Does anyone think Dak is a top
Level QB? Hurts is a solid QB but they can't go but so far giving up points like they did to Dallas .. Purdy was last player in draft selection .Bryce Young first player selected..Sam played Big time college Ball and has seen everything the NFL has to this point . His supporting cast is dismal and still he has showed great potential.. If we had used a number one pick on him would we be talking about yet another number one pick QB ?? Let's take a page out of San Fran and build a team around the QB and give him a chance .. We never ever seem to learn .. Right now who would you pick Bryce Young or Purdy ?? There is no way this team can afford a swing and miss with our top pick .. and it's at best a 50/50 gamble with a QB .. What is it that Sam can't do ?? He can Run .. he has enough arm strength to throw it deep .. he is tough as nails .. his team mates love him .. he is coachable .. yes he has struggled but what QB wouldn't with the WORST Oline in league .. and always playing from Behind because we have WORST D in league.. AND WORST coaching staff in league ... yea that is a blueprint for success 😳. If we don't Upgrade significantly the Oline and get TE and won't matter if we have the number one overall pick ..

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1354246]Well there are expectations for a second pick in the entire draft. And he hasn't met those, and may not ever, nevermind what the media said about him.[/quote]

Agree but the OG poster was saying CY was a show off; I was simply saying i didn't get that vibe from him

As far as living up to being a 2nd pick overall; yes he has failed at that