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Chief .. what part of Johnson did they think was a leader ? He had no experience at all with anything other than calling plays . If they wanted the best leader he would have been last on the list .. #1 Harbaugh , #2 BB ,#3 Vrabel,Quinn (tie) those are the proven leaders ! At this point I am on board with Quinn because he is the closest to my choice Vrabel .. who evidently wants too much control but good for him if I was gonna be blamed /fired for team I would want the say also . I know people beat up on BB but he is greatest modern coach ever regardless and is currently unemployed.. My favorite head coaches are Mike Tomlin, Andy Reid,Pete Carrol, Sean Payton,Bill B,Mike Vrabel ,both Harbaugh .. the second tier is Antonio Pierce,Kyle Shanny,Dan Campbell, hopefully Quinn will prove to be the leader we need !!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358539]They said from the beginning that they weren't looking for an offensive or defensive coach. They were looking for the best leader.[/quote]

Chief, i love ya.

3rd option

I’m dealing with it, but OC better be on point

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I don't get why people don't understand the concept of due diligence and playing by the NFL rules.

Due diligence - Arranging interviews with the "hot" names (including Slowik, Johnson, Macdonald etc). Arranging interviews with "retreads" that may have leadership qualities that stand out (Quinn, possibly Belichek)

Playing by NFL rules - no in person interviews until after the divisional playoff game

Between those 2 things, Washington did end up picking a known leader, albeit a former cowboys coach :puke:

No, we didn't win the off-season hiring cycle, but how has winning the off-season worked in the past.

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Was trying to edit my post and ended up inadvertently double posting .. sorry I'm not sure how to delete .. it seems you can only edit.

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Charley Casserly chimed in on the hire, successful drafting, and what went wrong for Quinn in ATL.
Talked me off the ledge a bit.

[url]https://youtu.be/FILHs-qi5nQ?si=XJGZ4xvyDOqiWfNX[/url]

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Just don't bring in Chip Kelly. Stay at UCLA dude.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358542]I don't get why people don't understand the concept of due diligence and playing by the NFL rules.

Due diligence - Arranging interviews with the "hot" names (including Slowik, Johnson, Macdonald etc). Arranging interviews with "retreads" that may have leadership qualities that stand out (Quinn, possibly Belichek)

Playing by NFL rules - no in person interviews until after the divisional playoff game

Between those 2 things, Washington did end up picking a known leader, albeit a former cowboys coach :puke:

No, we didn't win the off-season hiring cycle, but how has winning the off-season worked in the past.[/quote]

Cre, again much love, but I think this job with all the brash high class advisors combined with landing the top GM talent was a win…these expectations after this screamed a better option than Quinn. We are getting a retred with his record says he better have a solid OC in order for him to succeed.

While I understand all the we are moving on from a Snyder lead org and we should be excited…I can still understand the pessimism of not being able to land that HC. The bigger decision still could be who is no 2 in the draft, but I still believe in scheme over talent.

We need to nail that OC as much as the no 2 pick.

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Chico .. do you think Kelly would be that solid OC hire?

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1358540]Chief .. what part of Johnson did they think was a leader ? He had no experience at all with anything other than calling plays . If they wanted the best leader he would have been last on the list .. #1 Harbaugh , #2 BB ,#3 Vrabel,Quinn (tie) those are the proven leaders ! At this point I am on board with Quinn because he is the closest to my choice Vrabel .. who evidently wants too much control but good for him if I was gonna be blamed /fired for team I would want the say also . I know people beat up on BB but he is greatest modern coach ever regardless and is currently unemployed.. My favorite head coaches are Mike Tomlin, Andy Reid,Pete Carrol, Sean Payton,Bill B,Mike Vrabel ,both Harbaugh .. the second tier is Antonio Pierce,Kyle Shanny,Dan Campbell, hopefully Quinn will prove to be the leader we need !![/QUOTE]

I can't tell you if they even thought Johnson [I]was[/I] a leader. I don't know what they knew, and neither does anyone else on here. I'm pretty sure that was the point of the interviews though, and why they didn't go into them with offensive or defensive goggles on - so they could determine who would be the best leader for the team. My guess is early on, Johnson didn't shine in that aspect, he knew it, and he bailed.

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[quote=Chico23231;1358541]Chief, i love ya.

3rd option

I’m dealing with it, but OC better be on point[/quote]

You are assuming they had these candidates ranked going in. My point is, I don't think they did. He was identified as an option from the beginning, and now he's the HC. Seems like their process worked.

After a couple interviews, did they want Macdonald over Quinn? Maybe, but I'm not sure we'll ever know that. Could be the other way around, and [I]that's[/I] why Macdonald went to Seattle.

It's a done deal now though. The defense is most certainly going to be better. So like others have indicated, it's all about who the OC is now.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358550]Chico .. do you think Kelly would be that solid OC hire?[/quote]

I think it would be a high risk hire to trust him to develop a new QB. Wasn’t a big issue with Chip is he didn’t connect to NFL pros?

He’s gonna be in shotgun 100% of time and doing zone read. Do I really want to see this again?

I’d like a rams/49ers hire…or is there a guy on the Lions who has learned under Beta Johnson who is experienced enough?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358552]You are assuming they had these candidates ranked going in. My point is, I don't think they did. He was identified as an option from the beginning, and now he's the HC. Seems like their process worked.

After a couple interviews, did they want Macdonald over Quinn? Maybe, but I'm not sure we'll ever know that. Could be the other way around, and [I]that's[/I] why Macdonald went to Seattle.

It's a done deal now though. The defense is most certainly going to be better. So like others have indicated, it's all about who the OC is now.[/quote]

I think it’s pretty evident it was Johnson and MacDonald as 1a and b…Quinn was the solid fallback. I’m ok with it

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Is this insider knowledge or just speculation? I don't know, but if true then maybe we did dodge a bullet.

[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/insider-revelations-indicate-commanders-lucky-escape-ben-johnson"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/insider-revelations-indicate-commanders-lucky-escape-ben-johnson[/URL]

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[quote=Chico23231;1358555]I think it’s pretty evident it was Johnson and MacDonald as 1a and b…Quinn was the solid fallback. I’m ok with it[/quote]

It's fairly evident that the media put them there, but I don't think it's evident that that's actually the case.

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And by "fallback", if you mean 'let's interview 1a and 1b and see what they are like', and it didn't go as expected, then Quinn emerged as the "fallback", i. e. the best remaining option, I can buy that.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1358554]I think it would be a high risk hire to trust him to develop a new QB. Wasn’t a big issue with Chip is he didn’t connect to NFL pros?

He’s gonna be in shotgun 100% of time and doing zone read. Do I really want to see this again?

I’d like a rams/49ers hire…or is there a guy on the Lions who has learned under Beta Johnson who is experienced enough?[/QUOTE]


Kingsbury just backed out of discussions to be the OC for the Raiders. Could be interesting. He coached Mahomes and has brought other QBs along over the years. Not a great head coach, but there are lots of coordinators who are very good in that role - eg, Norv Turner , Wade Phillips - but not good head coaches. Curious to see if we talk to him.


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[quote=Chico23231;1358546]Cre, again much love, but I think this job with all the brash high class advisors combined with landing the top GM talent was a win…these expectations after this screamed a better option than Quinn. We are getting a retred with his record says he better have a solid OC in order for him to succeed.

While I understand all the we are moving on from a Snyder lead org and we should be excited…I can still understand the pessimism of not being able to land that HC. The bigger decision still could be who is no 2 in the draft, but I still believe in scheme over talent.

We need to nail that OC as much as the no 2 pick.[/quote]

I mean, I agree that the OC is huge. But that would be the same thing with Johnson (his DC) or Macdonald(his OC). To that end, Quinn has experience building an outstanding offensive staff at Atlanta. Of course, his follow-up to that one missed and got him fired.

By all accounts, Whitt is a new-generation quality DC (as opposed to JDR) and obviously Quinn has a good relationship with him, so we should see our defense improve substantially.

I readily admit the hire of Quinn was underwhelming, and not my 1st choice (Macdonald), but I also know I don't know what Harris and Peter's hiring team know or think.

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Have we heard anything about a welcome to Washington Press Conference for Quinn?

It should be soon I would think??

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358562]Have we heard anything about a welcome to Washington Press Conference for Quinn?

It should be soon I would think??[/quote]

Monday from my understanding

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Kliff Kingsbury is a home run!!!!


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Well....

[quote]Ian Rapoport

Sources: Former #AZCardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury recently interviewed for the vacant #Commanders OC job under new coach Dan Quinn. There are still more interviews to do, but Kingsbury is considered a strong candidate[/quote].

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I refuse to buy into anymore rumors or speculation... I'll believe it when I see the press conference.😀

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[quote=rocnrik;1358567]I refuse to buy into anymore rumors or speculation... I'll believe it when I see the press conference.😀[/quote]

A good idea, best way to maintain some form of sanity

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1358564]Kliff Kingsbury is a home run!!!!


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Bring on the grey poupon!! His association with Caleb Williams will create Taylor Swift type buzz the next couple of months.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1358564]Kliff Kingsbury is a home run!!!!


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Yes he is. Hoping this comes to fruition.

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Kliff spent time on usc staff last year hmmmmmm

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Can someone who is a Kingsbury fan explain to me why he would be a win? I only know he flopped in Arizona, and his QB's NFL records are definitely mixed. Mahone obviously is a success but Manziel flopped and the jury is still out on Murray. He and Kelly seem like equivalents to me.

I think I would much rather have someone off of the SF49 offensive staff.

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Add to that he pulled a Ben Johnson style move with Las Vegas, worse they were in final contract talks.

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[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/2/3/24054183/all-atwitter-3-february-2024-logan-paulsen-expresses-interest-in-joining-dan-quinns-coaching-staff[/url]

Logan Paulsen having interest in joining Quinn's staff is a positive sign for optimism.

Paulsen is a no nonsense football guy and an insider with behind the scenes contacts all over the league.

If he is interested in making the move to coaching right now, with this coach, he thinks the team is trending up in a big way.

Maybe too many deductions and it'll turn out like Norm Macdonald's professor of logic joke, but this is the most reassuring thing I've heard about the Quinn hiring.

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You start lining up rumors

Caleb not wanting to play in Chicago and Kingsbury ditching LV

I wonder if a trade for the 1st pic is next

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And the speculation has started:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kliff-kingsburys-flip-could-add-222414407.html[/url]

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I feel like a Kardashian this is so exhilarating

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358575]Can someone who is a Kingsbury fan explain to me why he would be a win? I only know he flopped in Arizona, and his QB's NFL records are definitely mixed. Mahone obviously is a success but Manziel flopped and the jury is still out on Murray. He and Kelly seem like equivalents to me.

I think I would much rather have someone off of the SF49 offensive staff.[/quote]

Not a fan of KK for the pro game. If we are a college I’d say it sounds great

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358558]It's fairly evident that the media put them there, but I don't think it's evident that that's actually the case.[/quote]

Based on what we know I’d say MacDonald was 1. You don’t offer a contract to someone who you don’t want. After that my bet would be Quinn once again because of the FO saying they are impressed with him in interviews.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358575]Can someone who is a Kingsbury fan explain to me why he would be a win? I only know he flopped in Arizona, and his QB's NFL records are definitely mixed. Mahone obviously is a success but Manziel flopped and the jury is still out on Murray. He and Kelly seem like equivalents to me.

I think I would much rather have someone off of the SF49 offensive staff.[/quote]

So I’d be more comfortable with KK than Chip..he did have a couple strong years especially with offense in AZ. I’d say the offense was good to very good under him.

He’s taken guys who were middling talent and have schemed them up to have a lot of success.

I think it would be a really good move, much much better than Chip. Like head and shoulders over Chip. The talking heads defending Chip are laughable dishonest…they are care more about defending the new regime than taking an honest look at Chip Kelly.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358583]Based on what we [I]heard from one person, Mike Florio,[/I] I’d say MacDonald was 1. You don’t offer a contract to someone who you don’t want. After that my bet would be Quinn once again because of the FO saying they are impressed with him in interviews.[/quote]

There, I fixed that for you. :)

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358587]There, I fixed that for you. :)[/quote]

I read it elsewhere not sure how much I’d trust Florio as a solo source he strike a me as a shock jock.

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Kelly, KK, you can keep both of them and their college offenses.

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Matt Canada in the mix, interviewing Monday. Please don’t hire him.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358587]There, I fixed that for you. :)[/quote]

Went back and reread it looks like all roads lead to Florio. So probably nothing doing there