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We're already up to 8 FA who have agreed to sign with us. This FO was ready to roll when the gun sounded. I am very impressed with the job the Commanders have done so far and there may be more FA to be signed. Wouldn't it be great to have a nearly all BPA draft?

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Would be nice to get a legit tackle or two before the draft

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1360075]Would be nice to get a legit tackle or two before the draft[/QUOTE]


And/or corner

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[quote=mredskins;1360073]The Chase Young market is as hot as Cabbage Patch Kids in the 80's, not

Us getting a 3rd for him was legit awesome

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-draft-picks-finalized-compensatory-trade-49ers-bears#:~:text=When%20Washington%20traded%20defensive%20end,Experience%20at%20Lucas%20Oil%20Stadium[/url].[/quote]

Legit daylight robbery, was Adam Peters looking that far ahead lol

[quote]Ben Standig
The Commanders, one could say, effectively swapped nine games of Chase Young for a 2024 3rd round compensatory pick and Clelin Ferrell.

And Adam Peters was on both ends of the not-real swap.

Carry on.[/quote]

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[quote=mredskins;1360069][url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1767547194620412047?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1767547194620412047%7Ctwgr%5E49fd0842dd3229a419714794a87747eb84bac694%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.arena.im%2Fembed%3Fpublisher%3Despn-69077event%3DCBTiCNGv%3D2theme%3Dlight[/url]
Clelin Ferrell has agreed to a 1 year deal with Washington source confirmed.[/quote]
Depth or camp fodder.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1360078]Depth or camp fodder.[/QUOTE]


He started for the niners last year. Absolutely is not camp fodder. Better chance he starts opposite Armstrong than gets cut. At the very least he is a rotational guy.

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Little early for camp body moves. Ferrell definitely isn’t that.

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Some suggest Hollywood Brown is next to sign. I would take him if Samuel is indeed gone

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Marcus Mariota has signed a 1 year deal per Adam S..

Good backup for a rookie

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Outside of the Ertz and Ekeler it seems like some solid signings by Peters and co. I like the player from Carolina. Seems like the best upgrade. Plus a couple of DE's and a center that are most likely upgrades from what we had. Pretty good job so far. But like the draft, we just won't know how these guys will play for us until the games start.

But not a fan of signing older players on a team that is rebuilding. I know they don't want to call it a rebuild but it is.

106.7 just confirmed they signed Mariota as a backup. Meh.. He's got experience so that's a good one too. Solid back up that can compete w/ Sam perhaps.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1360082]Marcus Mariota has signed a 1 year deal per Adam S..



Good backup for a rookie[/QUOTE]that's an odd one on day -1 of FA, but in camp you need qb bodies

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Wasn't Mariota in Philly with Brian Johnson?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1360083]Outside of the Ertz and Ekeler it seems like some solid signings by Peters and co. I like the player from Carolina. Seems like the best upgrade. Plus a couple of DE's and a center that are most likely upgrades from what we had. Pretty good job so far. But like the draft, we just won't know how these guys will play for us until the games start.



But not a fan of signing older players on a team that is rebuilding. I know they don't want to call it a rebuild but it is.



106.7 just confirmed they signed Mariota as a backup. Meh.. He's got experience so that's a good one too. Solid back up that can compete w/ Sam perhaps.[/QUOTE]I said it earlier but I honestly think Ertz and Ekelar are here to mentor. Ertz knows Kingsbury's system, Ekeler knows Lynn's run calls

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Got to wonder what Sam’s future is here now. If someone offers up a draft pick take it and run.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1360083]Outside of the Ertz and Ekeler it seems like some solid signings by Peters and co. I like the player from Carolina. Seems like the best upgrade. Plus a couple of DE's and a center that are most likely upgrades from what we had. Pretty good job so far. But like the draft, we just won't know how these guys will play for us until the games start.

But not a fan of signing older players on a team that is rebuilding. I know they don't want to call it a rebuild but it is.

106.7 just confirmed they signed Mariota as a backup. Meh.. He's got experience so that's a good one too. Solid back up that can compete w/ Sam perhaps.[/QUOTE]


Ekeler on the deal we gave him is an absolutely fantastic signing. Missed three games last year and still had over 1000 all purpose yards and six touchdowns. He is not here to mentor anyone he is here to be an electrifying third down back and will be. Biadasz is one year removed from a pro bowl and arguably a top ten C in the league. He isn’t most likely better than what we had he is clearly better than what we had. Luvu is a score too. We have added several players that equal automatic upgrades and more importantly we haven’t broken the bank. These are not only quality signings but smart ones.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360087]Got to wonder what Sam’s future is here now. If someone offers up a draft pick take it and run.[/QUOTE]


For real. Id like to think a fourth. Dude was a starter and certainly showed flashes. Behind a terrible oline and awful coaching staff. He should be worth a third, but id take a fourth.

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[quote=punch it in;1360088]Ekeler on the deal we gave him is an absolutely fantastic signing. Missed three games last year and still had over 1000 all purpose yards and six touchdowns. He is not here to mentor anyone he is here to be an electrifying third down back and will be. Biadasz is one year removed from a pro bowl and arguably a top ten C in the league. He isn’t most likely better than what we had he is clearly better than what we had. Luvu is a score too. We have added several players that equal automatic upgrades and more importantly we haven’t broken the bank. These are not only quality signings but smart ones.[/quote]

I would agree, smart ones. It remains to been seen if they're good ones.

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[quote=MTK;1360087]Got to wonder what Sam’s future is here now. If someone offers up a draft pick take it and run.[/quote]

The Mariota signing must spell the end for Howell, right? Just a matter of when / compensation?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1360090]I would agree, smart ones. It remains to been seen if they're good ones.[/QUOTE]


Well sure, but based on their most recent play it is hard to see how they come up short vs the guys they are replacing.
Gibson played in two more games than Ekeler and his numbers pale in comparison. Plus he was a liability with his fumbles.

Who even was our C? Our LB’s were straight trash. We got rid of our edge rushers. Our K is better. I see nothing but improvement across the board, and in some cases vast improvement.

Oh and only McManus is over 30. These are not aged broken down vets.

No commitments past 2026. If they play well we extend them if they don’t see ya. It is a free agency period that we have not seen in many moons.

[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/12/2024-nfl-free-agency-washington-commanders-frankie-luvu/[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1360087]Got to wonder what Sam’s future is here now. If someone offers up a draft pick take it and run.[/quote]

I think it would be a mistake to trade him. But they didn't draft him so he is expendable to them.

I never saw Mariota have big passing days like Sam had, so to me there is just so much value to keep Sam. There is still so much room for growth & improvement w/ him. We saw this same thing w/ Kirk early in his career.

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[quote=punch it in;1360092]Well sure, but based on their most recent play it is hard to see how they come up short vs the guys they are replacing.
Gibson played in two more games than Ekeler and his numbers pale in comparison. Plus he was a liability with his fumbles.

Who even was our C? Our LB’s were straight trash. We got rid of our edge rushers. Our K is better. I see nothing but improvement across the board, and in some cases vast improvement.

Oh and only McManus is over 30. These are not aged broken down vets.[/quote]

Well we all know how free agency works. lol. They're all good signings in March. But no doubt some guys are upgrades but I'll take a wait and see approach.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1360093]I think it would be a mistake to trade him. But they didn't draft him so he is expendable to them.

I never saw Mariota have big passing days like Sam had, so to me there is just so much value to keep Sam. There is still so much room for growth & improvement w/ him. We saw this same thing w/ Kirk early in his career.[/QUOTE]


I would rather have Sam than Mariota, but they are both solid backups imo. Hopefully Maye or Daniels keep either one of them on the sideline. As far as mentors go Mariota obviously gets the edge so if we hit on a quarterback at 2 Id rather have Mariota. If our quarterback of the future needs a year to sit and learn id rather have Sam.

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Soon all of the focus is going to be on getting the #2 pick up and running and ready for the season. Clearly Mariota is going to be the backup, wouldn’t be fair to have Sam inactive on game days. Trade him and let him have a shot elsewhere.

Quinn coached against Sam twice last year, obviously he wasn’t overly impressed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1360093]I think it would be a mistake to trade him. But they didn't draft him so he is expendable to them.

I never saw Mariota have big passing days like Sam had, so to me there is just so much value to keep Sam. There is still so much room for growth & improvement w/ him. We saw this same thing w/ Kirk early in his career.[/quote]

Agreed. I see way more value in Sam than Mariota. Mariota has stole money his whole career. Dude is an awful QB. Can’t read a defense and go through the route tree. Just a big knucklehead who used to be somewhat athletic, and played on a killer offense in Oregon. Professionally, a complete bust. Hasn’t done anything. Hasn’t won any big games. Doesn’t put up any numbers.
I guess maybe they want to move Sam to make Drake comfortable and had to sign a(ny) vet QB.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360085]Wasn't Mariota in Philly with Brian Johnson?[/quote]

Yes he was

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[quote=MTK;1360096]Soon all of the focus is going to be on getting the #2 pick up and running and ready for the season. Clearly Mariota is going to be the backup, wouldn’t be fair to have Sam inactive on game days. Trade him and let him have a shot elsewhere.

Quinn coached against Sam twice last year, obviously he wasn’t overly impressed.[/quote]

This. Don’t delay the inevitable. Trade Sam for what we can.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360096]Soon all of the focus is going to be on getting the #2 pick up and running and ready for the season. Clearly Mariota is going to be the backup, wouldn’t be fair to have Sam inactive on game days. Trade him and let him have a shot elsewhere.

Quinn coached against Sam twice last year, obviously he wasn’t overly impressed.[/QUOTE]


Yeah but if I needed a starter this year and the choice was Mariota or Sam Im taking Sam all day. The decision on who to make backup is really dependent on whether the second pick in the draft is ready to roll week one. If he is ill take Marcus the mentor, but if he isn’t I want Sam. Obviously the decision will be made before week one, so I hope to hell the second pick is ready to roll or that somehow Sam is our backup. I do not ever want Mariota taking the field really.

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[quote=punch it in;1360102]Yeah but if I needed a starter this year and the choice was Mariota or Sam Im taking Sam all day. The decision on who to make backup is really dependent on whether the second pick in the draft is ready to roll week one. If he is ill take Marcus the mentor, but if he isn’t I want Sam. Obviously the decision will be made before week one, so I hope to hell the second pick is ready to roll or that somehow Sam is our backup. I do not ever want Mariota taking the field really.[/quote]

The 2nd overall pick isn’t riding the pine

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360103]The 2nd overall pick isn’t riding the pine[/QUOTE]


Not by design. What if he starts week one, and shits the bed though? I hate even typing that but it is always a possibility. I believe all three of them will flourish but ……

Ideally Sam gets a chance to start elsewhere, number 2 pans out , and Marcus gets to be a mentor.

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JP Finlay seems to think JD5 is now a lock

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If Maye is the #2 pick then keeping Sam makes a world of sense, due to recentcy bias Sam will be worth more in trade 12 months from now and it costs nothing to keep him for that long. Maybe he will look good in mop up duty during the season.

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Sam Howell fans are on the struggle bus today.
Mac Jones was traded for a 6th.
Maybe if we expand the draft to 12 rounds like the old days we can get a pick for Howell.
June 1st cut!

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[quote=punch it in;1360104]Not by design. What if he starts week one, and shits the bed though? I hate even typing that but it is always a possibility. I believe all three of them will flourish but ……

Ideally Sam gets a chance to start elsewhere, number 2 pans out , and Marcus gets to be a mentor.[/quote]

Look at BY in Carolina last year, he struggled but they stuck with him.

Unless the #2 pick is a complete disaster he’s going to play.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360105]JP Finlay seems to think JD5 is now a lock[/quote]

Ive thought that for a while now

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1360097]Agreed. I see way more value in Sam than Mariota. Mariota has stole money his whole career. Dude is an awful QB. Can’t read a defense and go through the route tree. Just a big knucklehead who used to be somewhat athletic, and played on a killer offense in Oregon. Professionally, a complete bust. Hasn’t done anything. Hasn’t won any big games. Doesn’t put up any numbers.
I guess maybe they want to move Sam to make Drake comfortable and had to sign a(ny) vet QB.[/quote]

Pretty much how I see him. He's a great athlete, great college player but has no feel for the NFL passing game at all. At this point in his career he is who he is, where w/ Sam I still see a lot of upside.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1360106]If Maye is the #2 pick then keeping Sam makes a world of sense, due to recentcy bias Sam will be worth more in trade 12 months from now and it costs nothing to keep him for that long. Maybe he will look good in mop up duty during the season.[/QUOTE]


I agree with all of this except the part about Maye. Maye was his backup in 2021 and Howell was an absolute stud. I feel like there would be an element of embarrassment that the student becomes the master.

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[quote=mredskins;1360073]The Chase Young market is as hot as Cabbage Patch Kids in the 80's, not

Us getting a 3rd for him was legit awesome

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-draft-picks-finalized-compensatory-trade-49ers-bears#:~:text=When%20Washington%20traded%20defensive%20end,Experience%20at%20Lucas%20Oil%20Stadium[/url].[/quote]

[I]While the Commanders select second in the first round they'll pick fourth in the second [B]while the Cardinals pick third and the Patriots select third. [/I]
[/B]
I see typos like this almost every day. And not from posters, these are published articles from well know (if going out of business in this case) sources.

What ever happened to journalism?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360108]Look at BY in Carolina last year, he struggled but they stuck with him.

Unless the #2 pick is a complete disaster he’s going to play.[/QUOTE]


It is the “complete disaster “ part im worried about but that is most likely PTS(nyder)D. Lol.

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[quote=jamf;1360107]Sam Howell fans are on the struggle bus today.
Mac Jones was traded for a 6th.
Maybe if we expand the draft to 12 rounds like the old days we can get a pick for Howell.
June 1st cut![/quote]

I just see a lot of upside based on his best games. Obviously he has bad tape. He was about as poorly coached as you can get. But to me he still has value at the most valuable position.

Remember, a lot of you gave up on Kirk based off his turnovers his first few years. There were a lot of rough patches. Well, be ready for that all over again w/ drafting a rookie.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1360110]Pretty much how I see him. He's a great athlete, great college player but has no feel for the NFL passing game at all. At this point in his career he is who he is, where w/ Sam I still see a lot of upside.[/quote]

This is the only signing I did not like. They wanted Darnold, this was probably the next guy on their list as they obviously need a vet to mentor the rookie. I hope he stays in the QB room, I'd feel better with Howell as the #2 which is why I hope they retain him.