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[quote=MTK;1253544]Most understand Trump had no credibility to begin with.[/quote]

Sure.

Now consider policy and actions towards the Russians during Trump’s administration. Yes his verbal bouquets are weak, Trump does this in an obnoxious way with a lot of world leaders...I have no clue why. But I can list a handful of aggressive actions towards Russian on the world stage which have limited their aggression on the world stage.

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[quote=MTK;1253553][YT]LtWuMmAOk0g[/YT]

Jesus[/quote]

It would be nice to tell the whole story.

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article243947307.html[/url]

Miami-Dade cop relieved of duty for hitting woman taunting him for ‘acting like you white’



Anderson complained that she had been denied entrance to a flight to Chicago because she arrived late, and no flight was available until the next day.

“I should go over there and punch him in the face,” she allegedly yelled about the ticketing agent, according to the arrest report.

Rodriguez said he ordered the woman to get her belongings so she could be escorted out. “That was when Ms. Anderson aggressively approached this officer violating this officer’s personal space, bumped [him] with her body and struck [him] with her head on his chin,” he wrote in his report.

Fuck this piece shit

1. Threatened multi people
2 racial taunts
3. Assault

I guess folks think she should have allowed to continued with her behavior. I support the officer 100000% with this one.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253562]It would be nice to tell the whole story.

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article243947307.html[/url]

Miami-Dade cop relieved of duty for hitting woman taunting him for ‘acting like you white’



Anderson complained that she had been denied entrance to a flight to Chicago because she arrived late, and no flight was available until the next day.

“I should go over there and punch him in the face,” she allegedly yelled about the ticketing agent, according to the arrest report.

Rodriguez said he ordered the woman to get her belongings so she could be escorted out. “That was when Ms. Anderson aggressively approached this officer violating this officer’s personal space, bumped [him] with her body and struck [him] with her head on his chin,” he wrote in his report.

Fuck this piece shit

1. Threatened multi people
2 racial taunts
3. Assault

I guess folks think she should have allowed to continued with her behavior. I support the officer 100000% with this one.[/quote]

I heard the whole story, still doesn't justify hauling off and hitting her like that. Totally uncalled for and not proper procedure.

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[quote=MTK;1253564]I heard the whole story, still doesn't justify hauling off and hitting her like that. Totally uncalled for and not proper procedure.[/quote]

That article states otherwise. Diversionary tactic and her arrest was just.

She not a victim but a criminal. Once she makes contact, it’s over. Plus this piece of trash not wearing a mask either like that? Lock her up

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[quote=Chico23231;1253566]That article states otherwise. Diversionary tactic and her arrest was just.

She not a victim but a criminal. Once she makes contact, it’s over. Plus this piece of trash not wearing a mask either like that? Lock her up[/quote]

Sure arresting her was just, hitting her like that though? Lame. Guy lost his cool. Definitely excessive force. He said she head butted him, clearly a lie.

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[quote=MTK;1253567]Sure arresting her was just, hitting her like that though? Lame. Guy lost his cool. Definitely excessive force. He said she head butted him, clearly a lie.[/quote]

I think an interesting aspect is the racist language by her...how black, Hispanic cops have had to deal being called traitors.

The narratives not being covered by the media...how minority police have had to deal with this...they make up significant portion of the force in major urban sittings. Crickets.

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If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.

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The statement by the department contradicts camera footage, as police claim Wheeler told Smith to “place his hands behind his back.”

The department said Smith “began to resist by pulling his arms forward and tensing his body,” prompting Wheeler to take him to the ground, but video footage shows Wheeler silently grabbing Smith from behind and telling him to put his hands behind his back only after Smith's arms are already pinned down.
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-officers-lawsuit-arrest-wrong-man-break-wrist[/url]
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A video showed officers in Buffalo, New York, pushing a 75-year-old man. Police initially said he had tripped and fell.
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The video also shows an officer approaching (officer) Baro behind the police line and asking if his body camera is off. Baro replies incorrectly that his camera is in stand-by mode and not recording. The two officers appear to laugh and joke about the people they shot with rubber bullets.

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All police need to have auto body cam recording that they cant "turn off" or cover up. The Louisville protestor who was shot and killed ... all the fucking police had camera issues during lethal force use?

At this point, imo ... officers words or reports can not be taken as true.

What ever honor or respect they had or demanded ... is gone imo.

Sad, I trust an officers word as much as I trust the person they have arrested at this point.

Perhaps I spent too much time on reddit watching police abuse video after police abuse video. Then you compare it to their "report" or find out the body cam was not "on" at the time.

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Turning off a body cam should be grounds for automatic termination

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[quote=MTK;1253569]If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.[/quote]

+10000

I can't believe we have to have this conversation. It's a job dealing with the worst of society, if you can't handle it don't sign up.

I find it amazing how Chico can watch that video and determine she struck his chin with her head. The video is clear as day!!!!!

Totally agree on bodycam footage too.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1253554]Wonder how and how long until she "commits suicide".

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-confidant-ghislaine-maxwell-arrested-in-new-hampshire-fbi-says[/url][/quote]

I'm giving it about a month. Let's play a clue style game here:

She commits suicide by strangling herself with a bedsheet while the guards are sleeping because they're being overworked and the cameras are all malfunctioning at the same time. Sound good?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1253556]The whole thing is definitely nuts. And we're just at the tip of the iceberg on how much we know. Who knows how deep and wide this thing really is. It's all pretty fucking sickening.[/quote]

Reminds me of The Wire when they're investigating Barksdale? money getting "donated" to Clay Davis. Ain't no telling where the money goes. Who knows how much blackmail Epstein had on high rollers, or what governments he was working with. I just wish Epstein/Maxwell/anybody who was involved would go down. Who cares if it's Clinton or Trump? Anybody who was connected deserves to rot.

I fear we're going to be on the outside looking in on this one for the rest of our lives though. Too many powerful people involved. Sure we might hear more stories about Maxwell bringing in girls, probably some horrendous shit too, but we're never going to know how many friends they had that were in on the act too.

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[quote=MTK;1253569]If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.[/quote]

You understand what assault is right?

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[quote=mooby;1253576]+10000

I can't believe we have to have this conversation. It's a job dealing with the worst of society, if you can't handle it don't sign up.

I find it amazing how Chico can watch that video and determine she struck his chin with her head. The video is clear as day!!!!!

Totally agree on bodycam footage too.[/quote]

You understand what threats and assault is right?

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Threats and bodily contact...that’s it. Once the line is cross it’s over. She makes threats and he is backing up and she makes contact

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[quote=Chico23231;1253581]You understand what assault is right?[/quote]

Are you saying the cop was assaulted? Come on man

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What happened to using appropriate force to take her down and cuff her? We're just going straight to a right hook? Ridiculous.

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[quote=MTK;1253584]Are you saying the cop was assaulted? Come on man[/quote]

Walking towards the officer, threatened, racial insults while the officer backs away...she bumps him. That’s it, u can’t do that. The person may be drunk or high...cause she ain’t acting rational, it’s also open hand and not closed fist he gives her.

I’m sorry it’s violent but it’s within the officer right.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253586]Walking towards the officer, threatened, racial insults while the officer backs away...she bumps him. That’s it, u can’t do that. The person may be drunk or high...cause she ain’t acting rational, it’s also open hand and not closed fist he gives her.

I’m sorry it’s violent but it’s within the officer right.[/quote]

Apparently the Miami PD doesn't agree since the cop has been let go and is under a criminal investigation

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[quote=Chico23231;1253582]You understand what threats and assault is right?[/quote]

"you're acting white" "don't walk up on me" "what you wanna do"

This is where you're setting the bar for assaulting a woman now Chico? Good lord your threshold for violence is incredibly low.

Getting in someone's face is apparently the threshold where the cop thought his life was in danger, who knew that's all it took?

I guess she should be happy he didn't draw on her and eliminate the threat immediately.

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[quote=MTK;1253553][YT]LtWuMmAOk0g[/YT]

Jesus[/quote]

He's dead in the water!

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[quote=mooby;1253589]"you're acting white" "don't walk up on me" "what you wanna do"

This is where you're setting the bar for assaulting a woman now Chico? Good lord your threshold for violence is incredibly low.

Getting in someone's face is apparently the threshold where the cop thought his life was in danger, who knew that's all it took?

I guess she should be happy he didn't draw on her and eliminate the threat immediately.[/quote]

My man...I don’t like it anymore than u do.

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The monuments are coming down in Richmond...I think it’s time for a change. Hopefully they end up in a museum

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[quote=MTK;1253587]Apparently the Miami PD doesn't agree since the cop has been let go and is under a criminal investigation[/quote]

There is a difference between restraining someone and assaulting someone. That was straight assault.

I will say she baited him into it, shame on him for taking the bait.

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[quote=mooby;1253589]"you're acting white" "don't walk up on me" "what you wanna do"

This is where you're setting the bar for assaulting a woman now Chico? Good lord your threshold for violence is incredibly low.

Getting in someone's face is apparently the threshold where the cop thought his life was in danger, who knew that's all it took?

I guess she should be happy he didn't draw on her and eliminate the threat immediately.[/quote]

Racial insults, threats and then physical contact.... and being a woman has nothing to do with it.

White guy, racial insults and a minority woman cop...we would know how the comments would be if the shoe was on the other foot in here. It’s not ok either way.

Lady could have easily reached up with a weapon of some sort at the point of confrontation and done serious damage that close.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253607]Racial insults, threats and then physical contact.... and being a woman has nothing to do with it.

White guy, racial insults and a minority woman cop...we would know how the comments would be if the shoe was on the other foot in here. It’s not ok either way.

Lady could have easily reached up with a weapon of some sort at the point of confrontation and done serious damage that close.[/quote]

chico, "coulda,woulda,shouda,...............but didn't. You've fallen a long way.trump has dragged you down.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253597]My man...I don’t like it anymore than u do.[/quote]

..............your post's say different.

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[quote=mredskins;1253605]There is a difference between restraining someone and assaulting someone. That was straight assault.

[B]I will say she baited him into it, shame on him for taking the bait[/B].[/quote]

Agreed. But if you're gonna be a cop, you need to be in control of your emotions. You gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself. He didn't, and he paid the price for it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1253607]Racial insults, threats and then physical contact.... and being a woman has nothing to do with it.

White guy, racial insults and a minority woman cop...we would know how the comments would be if the shoe was on the other foot in here. It’s not ok either way.

Lady could have easily reached up with a weapon of some sort at the point of confrontation and done serious damage that close.[/quote]

The modern-day left does not want equality. They want special treatment based on race and gender. Black people can use whatever racial slur they like against any demographic. But no one better not use a racial slur against us or they'll lose everything. Women can assault men with impunity. But god forbid a man defends himself against a female attacker.

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After the way this year has gone I could see this happening as sad as it would be.


Trump has a plan to stay in the White House if he loses election, former senator says

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-plan-stay-white-house-162113382.html[/url]


President Donald Trump is scheming to retain power in the event of an electoral loss in November, according to a former Senator from Colorado.

Tim Wirth published an op-ed in Newsweek where he lays out his theory, apparently inspired in-part by HBO's adaptation of the Philip Roth novel The Plot Against America.

The former Democratic senator begins with an allegation that Mr Trump will attempt to retain power through voter suppression. Mr Wirth alleges there is a strategy to suppress voter turnout by purging voters - especially inner-city voters - from registration rolls and to suppress mail-in voting. He also believes physical polling locations will be limited, especially in urban areas, in an effort to create long lines on Election Day and discourage voting.

Mr Wirth's allegations that there has been an effort in Republican-led states to remove people from the voter-roll is accurate.

According to Mr Wirth, should Mr Trump lose in a scenario where challenger Joe Biden beats him by "decent but not overwhelming" margins in the swing states of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, Mr Trump will declare that the vote was rigged.

He will supposedly blame mail-in ballots and Chinese election interference for the loss and invoke emergency powers to launch a Justice Department investigation into alleged "election hacking" in the swing states.

From there, Mr Wirth claims Mr Trump will stall until 14 December, which is the date when states must appoint their US Electoral College electors. Because the swing states are each controlled by Republicans, Mr Wirth believes the state legislatures will refuse to certify their electors until the election hacking investigation is finished.

He then claims the Democrats will challenge the investigation and the challenge to the election, which will eventually be taken to the US Supreme Court. Mr Wirth believes the Supreme Court will rule against the Republicans, but will concede that Mr Trump's emergency powers authorise him to continue his investigation. The Supreme Court will also maintain that should the swing states not be able to certify their selectors by 14 December - for any reason - then the Electoral College will have to meet and vote for the president without the swing states included.

Under Mr Wirth's theory, the Electoral College will then meet without the swing states under investigation, and neither candidate will receive enough votes to secure the presidency. According to Mr Wirth, the contested election would then move to the House of Representatives, where each delegation gets to cast one vote towards the presidency.

Since there are more Republican controlled House delegations than Democratic controlled delegations - 26 Republican to 23 Democrats - the Republicans will be the victors of the vote and Mr Trump will remain in office.

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[quote=Giantone;1253703]After the way this year has gone I could see this happening as sad as it would be.


Trump has a plan to stay in the White House if he loses election, former senator says

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-plan-stay-white-house-162113382.html[/url]


President Donald Trump is scheming to retain power in the event of an electoral loss in November, according to a former Senator from Colorado.

Tim Wirth published an op-ed in Newsweek where he lays out his theory, apparently inspired in-part by HBO's adaptation of the Philip Roth novel The Plot Against America.

The former Democratic senator begins with an allegation that Mr Trump will attempt to retain power through voter suppression. Mr Wirth alleges there is a strategy to suppress voter turnout by purging voters - especially inner-city voters - from registration rolls and to suppress mail-in voting. He also believes physical polling locations will be limited, especially in urban areas, in an effort to create long lines on Election Day and discourage voting.

Mr Wirth's allegations that there has been an effort in Republican-led states to remove people from the voter-roll is accurate.

According to Mr Wirth, should Mr Trump lose in a scenario where challenger Joe Biden beats him by "decent but not overwhelming" margins in the swing states of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, Mr Trump will declare that the vote was rigged.

He will supposedly blame mail-in ballots and Chinese election interference for the loss and invoke emergency powers to launch a Justice Department investigation into alleged "election hacking" in the swing states.

From there, Mr Wirth claims Mr Trump will stall until 14 December, which is the date when states must appoint their US Electoral College electors. Because the swing states are each controlled by Republicans, Mr Wirth believes the state legislatures will refuse to certify their electors until the election hacking investigation is finished.

He then claims the Democrats will challenge the investigation and the challenge to the election, which will eventually be taken to the US Supreme Court. Mr Wirth believes the Supreme Court will rule against the Republicans, but will concede that Mr Trump's emergency powers authorise him to continue his investigation. The Supreme Court will also maintain that should the swing states not be able to certify their selectors by 14 December - for any reason - then the Electoral College will have to meet and vote for the president without the swing states included.

Under Mr Wirth's theory, the Electoral College will then meet without the swing states under investigation, and neither candidate will receive enough votes to secure the presidency. According to Mr Wirth, the contested election would then move to the House of Representatives, where each delegation gets to cast one vote towards the presidency.

Since there are more Republican controlled House delegations than Democratic controlled delegations - 26 Republican to 23 Democrats - the Republicans will be the victors of the vote and Mr Trump will remain in office.[/quote]


Not a Trump fan obviously but some of this crap is getting harder and harder to believe. I can see a headline now where someone accuses Trump of cannibalism or something far out crazy, and the lame stream media run with it like gospel. It's really sad. I think about so many people who really won't have anything going for them when Trump isn't President anymore.

Trevor Noah wasn't funny before Donald Trump, and now he has made a whole show out of making fun of him. Same thing with Saturday Night live. Once Trump is out of office, suddenly it isn't going to be as funny making fun of an ex-president.

I fully think that Donald Trump will lose by a land slide, the likes of which this country has never witnessed before. I think by 6:30 - 7PM on election night, it will be over with. Trump will call that night by 8pm and acknowledge defeat. There's no crazy plan for him to remain President for life, or anything anyone might believe. When it is all said and done he is going to go on to other stuff. He is not going to hatch a super top secret evil plan to stay in the white house, FFS.

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Now I don't wanna start any rumors, but I was at the Trump hotel in DC last night and I swear I saw him eating a human heart off a plate. He must really hate his enemies to go to those lengths.

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[quote=mooby;1253791]Now I don't wanna start any rumors, but I was at the Trump hotel in DC last night and I swear I saw him eating a human heart off a plate. He must really hate his enemies to go to those lengths.[/quote]

.........unless it was cooked like Kentucky fried chicken I doubt it was him.


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[quote=mooby;1170538]Just brutal. Amazing how his supporters can't process the hypocrisy.

The best thing I've heard from him so far is how he didn't expect this level of opposition. I'm like, you are fucking with people's lives, of course there's going to be opposition on some level.[/quote]

Boy you really are naive or truly just uneducated It’s sad, now I can see why the country is in the situation it’s in today oh boy.

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[quote=mooby;1253791]Now I don't wanna start any rumors, but I was at the Trump hotel in DC last night and I swear I saw him eating a human heart off a plate. He must really hate his enemies to go to those lengths.[/quote]

What were you doing at the trump hotel breaking in or just want to be in the in crowd

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This election will be over after the first debate that’s if Biden can find it can’t wait for trump to tear his stuttering ass up Biden with his blank stare. This will be better than the super bowl

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Obama fooled me two terms what a loser he was

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[quote=Giantone;1253816].........unless it was cooked like Kentucky fried chicken I doubt it was him.


[IMG]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/c_fill,g_auto,w_1200,h_675,ar_16:9/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160802090304-donald-trump-eats-kfc-with-knife-and-fork.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Of course it was fried, looked like he was dipping it in one of those family size bowls of KFC gravy too.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1253532]NYT ever gonna issue corrections about Steele dossier containing Russian intelligence that was used by the media to attack the President in the Russian collusion hoax? The same reporters who pushed it are also pushing this story. Is this Russian intelligence again? NYT pushed Russian conspiracy theories for years...



And yet here we are again...[/QUOTE]



Keep regurgitating your Fox news bullshit while acting like you do not watch it....hysterical. What a sheep.

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It's kind of ironic how much hate for all media but Fox News, which is the biggest fucking joke news outlet on the planet.