Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886534]I'd like to hear your RGIII vs "Clark Kent" Tannehill Smooty. Like why do you think the gap is so small.[/quote]

You'll have to wait for my underground rap vinyl to come out

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SmootSmack;886471]Let me pose this question to you

Manning and trade down to get Tannehill and an additional pick in the 2nd/3rd

or

Orton and trade up to get RG3 and lose a 1st/2nd[/quote]

With the healthy caveat on Manning, I'd go with that option. I love RGIII but his cost will be significant and 2 yrs from Manning with a handoff to Tannehill plus keeping picks is best short and long term. I think though that with Seattle sitting around 12 we won't be able to go too far down and still get him. Plan B could be Osweiler. I think he's got some talent but really needs to be coached up. He could be had in the mid-late 2nd and would be a nice Manning caddy.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

It is a tough call because you see just how good Peyton was under center for the Colts, How much better he made them. I mean that was the same team he commands to a 10 - 11 win season, that with out him won 2 games?? That is the instant impact he has IF HEALTHY. IF HEALTHY he gives us 3 years of service, and grooming someone to come in behind him (cousins, Tennihill)

HOWEVER, I just can't see us passing on the option of getting RGIII. He is a stud. Better passer than Cam Newton, and runs faster. Not as big, but tremendous athlete. I would absolutely love to finally have our own double threat QB in DC. Problem is, the Rams have to be willing to take what we have to in order to move up to get him.

So, if moving up isn't a possibility, then Peyton it is, draft Cousins 2nd or 3rd round and let him learn behind one of the best QB's to ever play the game.

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I like option one, but one thing is how far do we drop down for RT? I would hate to trade down and miss RT. At least if you give up the picks for RG3, you know you will get him.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=Paintrain;886536] Plan B could be Osweiler. I think he's got some talent but really needs to be coached up. He could be had in the mid-late 2nd and would be a nice Manning caddy.[/quote]

The hype I heard is he's sneaking into the 1st.

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The more I watch Tannehill the more I don't want him. He always starts games off well, and then falters awfully in them the later it is in the game. Why didn't he start at QB 2 years ago? I just don't trust a guy who was a WR 2 years ago and just got the starting job midway through last year, because of injury.

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[quote=NM Redskin;886539]The hype I heard is he's sneaking into the 1st.[/quote]

I could see the hype pushing him but he's got a lot of holes for a first rounder.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=Paintrain;886541]I could see the hype pushing him but he's got a lot of holes for a first rounder.[/quote]

I agree, wouldn't be surprised if a team falls in love with him at the combine. The whole workout warrior thing.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=mooby;886500]Quite honestly I'd be happy with either option. And this is why I'm glad I don't make those decisions.[/quote]

And this is the sad reality we live in. With rex grossman, john beck and donovan Mcnabb, either of those options sound absolutley wonderful. Just shows you how bad the Shanahans have screwed the pooch when it comes to the QB position. Sorry, but if a coach has been in control for over 2 years, and there is absolutely NO answer of any sort, and by that I mean NO YOUNG TALENT or anything that even resembles a qb that will give you chances to win games, then he needs to be held accountable. Ignoring the most important position on the squad, and adding marginally better young talent in two years, well, lets hope he really flashes his genius this year.

If he doesn't, then maybe some difficult decisions need to be made. Lesser coaches have done WAY more with just as little talent, and also done it in a much shorter span than having over 24 months. Noone shanahan has brought in has knocked my socks off. Noone. he has made some solid acquisitions, but put in a situation, you have 53 chances to show that you are adding talent, and making the team better. When looked at as a whole, the only reason i feel ANY reason to be optimistic is that our team is on average 2.1 years younger on average at the end of this past season than two seasons ago. That is the only reason. There has to be a palpable show of proof, and having two years with both 1st and 2nd rounders each of his drafts, well, like I said, Im not astonished.

Here is to hoping he doesnt screw the pooch this year, and does what it takes to get a quarterback for our team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;886528]Yeah he won't be easy to get, for sure[/quote]

He won't, but my point was also about how good he must be for them to value him so. And that's not out of the blue, I thought he was a huge sleeper in the draft when he came out.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886533]I don't think anyone is giving up 6 picks for Luck. The most I'd give for Luck is:

2012 1st rd.
2013 1st rd.
2014 2nd rd.

If you don't want it whatever[/quote]

And when they stop laughing.....?

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[QUOTE=biffle;886547]And when they stop laughing.....?[/QUOTE]

I would have hung up already.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886548]I would have hung up already.[/quote]

Earlier in the thread you said you'd give up a better deal for Griffin, so I assume you like him more than Luck?

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does anyone else buy the pro football weekly draft preview? i love carrying that around and reading about every player when i'm waiting in line or something of that nature

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=los panda;886552]does anyone else buy the pro football weekly draft preview? i love carrying that around and reading about every player when i'm waiting in line or something of that nature[/quote]

I usually get theirs and the Sporting News'. Maybe another if I have extra money weighing me down.