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Dan73 02-26-2018 09:59 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189169]Joe Thomas needs to shut his mouth and let the GM and staff do the work, now a days these players talk to damn much. Yeah I get that he wants a QB and all that but he didn't have to stay in CLE, He took the $ over winning because multiple teams would have wanted him, but he wanted the 10M this yr which will make him the highest paid Lineman.[/QUOTE]He may retire this year.

There is an interview where he talks about his loyalty to the Browns.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Joe-Thomas-explains-loyalty-to-the-Browns-115115304[/url]

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metalskins 02-26-2018 09:59 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1189171]The Browns attempted to trade significant assets for AJ McCarron last year at the trading deadline, but they filed the paperwork a few minutes after the deadline, so it didn't go through (lol).

But now that McCarron is an unrestricted free agent, it seems logical that they'd be in the mix for him. I mean it's not to say they didn't try to trade for other QBs at the deadline. So I wouldn't think it a certainty that they'll target McCarron as their number one target. But you have to figure he's a thought. Hue Jackson saw enough of him in Cinci, he should have a feel for what he's getting.[/quote]

And the fact that now, they can sign him out right and not have to worry about trading for him. Might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

skinsfaninok 02-26-2018 10:01 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1189171]The Browns attempted to trade significant assets for AJ McCarron last year at the trading deadline, but they filed the paperwork a few minutes after the deadline, so it didn't go through (lol).

But now that McCarron is an unrestricted free agent, it seems logical that they'd be in the mix for him. I mean it's not to say they didn't try to trade for other QBs at the deadline. So I wouldn't think it a certainty that they'll target McCarron as their number one target. But you have to figure he's a thought. Hue Jackson saw enough of him in Cinci, he should have a feel for what he's getting.[/quote]

AJ is unproven and when he played he didn't exactly light it up but I would sign him to compete with Kizer who I believe hasn't had a fair shot to begin with. The browns dont need a QB taking 30m of the cap from them, they need to load up the roster overall first

Schneed10 02-26-2018 10:11 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189174]AJ is unproven and when he played he didn't exactly light it up but I would sign him to compete with Kizer who I believe hasn't had a fair shot to begin with. The browns dont need a QB taking 30m of the cap from them, they need to load up the roster overall first[/quote]

Ask me whether I care what you would do.

If they liked McCarron enough before to trade two significant picks, they're sure to like him now that all they have to do is spend money.

skinsfaninok 02-26-2018 10:14 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1189176]Ask me whether I care what you would do.

If they liked McCarron enough before to trade two significant picks, they're sure to like him now that all they have to do is spend money.[/quote]

LOL ok man, apparently u just like the troll game like most of those clowns on Facebook. I forgot u are the GM of the Browns too.

Meks 02-26-2018 12:15 PM

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McCaron never impressed me. They should be thanking themselves for filing the paperwork late lol

sdskinsfan2001 02-26-2018 12:29 PM

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Is it March 7th yet? I want to hibernate like a bear until then.

sdskinsfan2001 02-26-2018 12:35 PM

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If I'm Cleveland I'm taking Barkley at # 1 and Chubb or Fitzpatrick if available at # 4. If not, then draft your favorite QB. If one of those guys is there I'd try to use my assets to get back into the 1st round and get my QB.

Browns need guarantees. Those 3 guys + Nelson seem the closest things to a guarantee.

Chubb and Garrett would be an awesome pass rushing tandem. Fitzpatrick is a leader that can play multiple spots.

KI Skins Fan 02-26-2018 01:25 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189185]If I'm Cleveland I'm taking Barkley at # 1 and Chubb or Fitzpatrick if available at # 4. If not, then draft your favorite QB. If one of those guys is there I'd try to use my assets to get back into the 1st round and get my QB.

Browns need guarantees. Those 3 guys + Nelson seem the closest things to a guarantee.

Chubb and Garrett would be an awesome pass rushing tandem. Fitzpatrick is a leader that can play multiple spots.[/quote]

Since your post isn't really about you-know-who, I'll respond. I think you're right on the money about what the Browns should do.

Dan73 02-26-2018 05:52 PM

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I really do hope having a Qb who wants to be here elevates the team.

Hall, the longest tenured player on the roster at the end of the 2017 season, said last week he was unsure if “Kirk wanted to be here” during an exclusive interview with The Sports Capitol.

With no signs of commitment from Cousins, who becomes a free agent without another franchise tag at $34.4 million, Washington struck a deal with Kansas City for Smith in January. The trade cannot be finalized until March 14.

“[Smith] wanted to be here,” Hall said. “When he was in Kansas City he reached out to those guys in Kansas City and told them, ‘Hey, I understand you guys want to move me. Could you try to get me to Washington? I really want to get to Washington.’ For a guy to really want us as a team, as teammates, that means a lot, that means a whole lot where, you know. It felt like Kirk was forced to be here. I wish nothing but the best for him and whatever is next for him, but this organization is doing nothing but going up.”

[url]https://thesportscapitol.com/2018/02/25/deangelo-hall-is-not-sure-kirk-cousins-wanted-to-be-here/[/url]

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DYoungJelly 02-26-2018 11:08 PM

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[quote=Dan73;1189208]I really do hope having a Qb who wants to be here elevates the team.

Hall, the longest tenured player on the roster at the end of the 2017 season, said last week he was unsure if “Kirk wanted to be here” during an exclusive interview with The Sports Capitol.

With no signs of commitment from Cousins, who becomes a free agent without another franchise tag at $34.4 million, Washington struck a deal with Kansas City for Smith in January. The trade cannot be finalized until March 14.

“[Smith] wanted to be here,” Hall said. “When he was in Kansas City he reached out to those guys in Kansas City and told them, ‘Hey, I understand you guys want to move me. Could you try to get me to Washington? I really want to get to Washington.’ For a guy to really want us as a team, as teammates, that means a lot, that means a whole lot where, you know. It felt like Kirk was forced to be here. I wish nothing but the best for him and whatever is next for him, but this organization is doing nothing but going up.”

[url]https://thesportscapitol.com/2018/02/25/deangelo-hall-is-not-sure-kirk-cousins-wanted-to-be-here/[/url]

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Smith wanting to be here is a very underrated, under appreciated part of this trade.

mooby 02-27-2018 07:12 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1189217]Smith wanting to be here is a very underrated, under appreciated part of this trade.[/quote]

Agreed, it was one of the few initial bright spots that I liked. For all his words, Kirk's actions seemed to tell a different story. If he had wanted to be here, a deal would've gotten done.

Giantone 02-27-2018 07:17 AM

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[quote=mooby;1189225]Agreed, it was one of the few initial bright spots that I liked. For all his words, Kirk's actions seemed to tell a different story. If he had wanted to be here, a deal would've gotten done.[/quote]

I am surprised how many of you are backing the front office in this. After what the Skins did to him, he has played this perfectly.

Dan73 02-27-2018 07:26 AM

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He has only played it perfectly if all a team wanted was a lot of yards but no real wins in big games and a Qb that does not elevate the team.

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rickmmrr 02-27-2018 08:28 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Dan73;1189227]He has only played it perfectly if all a team wanted was a lot of yards but no real wins in big games and a Qb that does not elevate the team.

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I'm not sure if I'm just drinking all the recent cool-aide about this subject but I'm more and more thinking the same thing. Top that off with the idea of Tom Brady who just wants to win so badly that he's willing to take a pay cut.


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