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[quote=mooby;1340395]You're right - it's not concerning at all that a billionaire who may be backing cases that end up in front of the highest court in the land could also be paying for one of the judges' vacations and travel.
Ethics and conflicts of interest have no place in this Republican utopia.[/quote] Ethics like the leaking of court opinion in the dobbs case or the targeted illegal protest of Supreme Court justices along with an assassination attempt? It’s weird to see you guys up in arms about a friendship with folks who share the same values where there isn’t a crime involved nor did the investigated report ever find any evidence of influence. Silence on actual crimes but pearl clutching about this where it seems to be another attempt to smear Thomas. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1340397]Ethics like the leaking of court opinion in the dobbs case or the targeted illegal protest of Supreme Court justices along with an assassination attempt?
It’s weird to see you guys up in arms about a friendship with folks who share the same values where there isn’t a crime involved nor did the investigated report ever find any evidence of influence. Silence on actual crimes but pearl clutching about this where it seems to be another attempt to smear Thomas.[/quote] It's not an attempt moron he is smeared and he and his wife did it to themselves.. Only a trumpette like yourself would defend this ignorance. |
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[quote=Giantone;1340386]Actually that isn't completely true.................still being debated.
[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3934664-will-the-supreme-court-justices-comply-with-new-rules-on-gift-disclosure/[/url][/quote] Doesn't look like you read the article you posted. The SC has to decide whether they are going to adapt/comply with it. They don't have too (I'd like them too). |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1340397]Ethics like the leaking of court opinion in the dobbs case or the targeted illegal protest of Supreme Court justices along with an assassination attempt?
It’s weird to see you guys up in arms about a friendship with folks who share the same values where there isn’t a crime involved nor did the investigated report ever find any evidence of influence. Silence on actual crimes but pearl clutching about this where it seems to be another attempt to smear Thomas.[/QUOTE] Just when I think your blinders cannot be any thicker …..there you are. But the funniest part is you think you are the only one who can see what is going on. So entertaining to me. Truly I mean that. I used to scroll past your posts because it was so obvious what was coming. Now they are shit and Im a fuckin fly. They are solid gold. Keep it coming. Thank you in advance. |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1340396]The white guy with the Coors hat and Bud Lite is the one with the problem here.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs_xoNUXgAAPR8Z?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG][/QUOTE] Literally the one with the problem. The other person could care less what he does. The anger that festers in the hard right is so strange to me. Are they afraid of life/death? Are they just super unhappy with their own lives? Bored as fuck? Some total deep rooted panic inside their tiny brains that comes out in anger and violence because they cannot cope. All they do is go from entity to entity and harass them until the puppet masters lead them to their next target audience based solely on greed and power. The puppet masters could really care less about the targets. They just help them complete their lies, by hiding behind christianity, conservatism, and patriotism to make it all morally acceptable on some level. Ironically they are the three things they embody least. Ultimately the puppet masters can control even more of our lives for their own selfish reasons, and the pawns/sheep/droids wonder why they are so up against it. They are literally fighting a battle against themselves. It is cosmic hilarity. |
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[quote=nonniey;1340399]Doesn't look like you read the article you posted. The SC has to decide whether they are going to adapt/comply with it. They don't have too (I'd like them too).[/quote]
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Yikes, deep throat Joe[/quote] The moronic reply we expected. You never let us down. |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1340391][url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11948149/Transgender-Colorado-woman-19-arrested-plot-shoot-THREE-schools-churches.html[/url]
Transgender Colorado woman, 19, is arrested over plot to shoot up THREE schools and churches by cops who found detailed plans and communist manifesto four days after Nashville massacre Noticed the media isn’t reporting the copy cat crime that was stopped[/QUOTE] Are you still trying to make some weird point that the transgender community is the dangerous one, or all transgender people are terrorists? Lol. Are you still forgetting that you can only bully (like you do constantly on this board in every thread) some groups before some will lose their shit and cross a line. Lash out? You talk about the media ignoring it but you are the king of pointing out every lgbtq, or liberal, or muslim, or minority that commits a crime while remaining silent about the large majority of them that in this country are committed by hard right lunatics. The ones whose crimes aren’t born out of being pushed too hard for too long, marginalized, discriminated against, made to feel inferior…. but just pure hate. No crime is excusable, but your hypocrisy isn’t either. |
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[quote=punch it in;1340405]Are you still trying to make some weird point that the transgender community is the dangerous one, or all transgender people are terrorists? Lol.
Are you still forgetting that you can only bully (like you do constantly on this board in every thread) some groups before some will lose their shit and cross a line. Lash out? You talk about the media ignoring it but you are the king of pointing out every lgbtq, or liberal, or muslim, or minority that commits a crime while remaining silent about the large majority of them that in this country are committed by hard right lunatics. The ones whose crimes aren’t born out of being pushed too hard for too long, marginalized, discriminated against, made to feel inferior…. but just pure hate. [B]No crime is excusable[/B], but your hypocrisy isn’t either.[/quote] Bro you literally excused and justified it in your second paragraph. Come on punch…am I really bullying or presenting another view? With some trolling too. Punch I can’t quit you! |
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[quote=Chico23231;1340397]Ethics like the leaking of court opinion in the dobbs case or the targeted illegal protest of Supreme Court justices along with an assassination attempt?
It’s weird to see you guys up in arms about a friendship with folks who share the same values where there isn’t a crime involved nor did the investigated report ever find any evidence of influence. Silence on actual crimes but pearl clutching about this where it seems to be another attempt to smear Thomas.[/quote] What happened to that SCOTUS investigation of the leaker? You seem thoroughly convinced it had to be some liberal - we are on the same page here. I'd love to know who leaked it. The assassination attempt - lol. You mean the one where the assassin turned himself in for having a conscience? Aka that thing that Republicans don't have? This is why I don't engage in this forum anymore Chico. Your opinions are as predictable as the sunrise. |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1340408]Bro you literally excused and justified it in your second paragraph.
Come on punch…am I really bullying or presenting another view? With some trolling too. Punch I can’t quit you![/QUOTE] No excusing , just pointing out the nuances and the fact that you ignore them as if they are not part of the big picture. Bullying because you tend to use the word tranny in a completely derogatory way on the internet. You are part of a cumulative effort. |
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[QUOTE=mooby;1340410]What happened to that SCOTUS investigation of the leaker? You seem thoroughly convinced it had to be some liberal - we are on the same page here. I'd love to know who leaked it.
The assassination attempt - lol. You mean the one where the assassin turned himself in for having a conscience? Aka that thing that Republicans don't have? This is why I don't engage in this forum anymore Chico. Your opinions are as predictable as the sunrise.[/QUOTE] We couldn’t be any more in lock step over the hypocrisy. |
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[quote=mooby;1340410]What happened to that SCOTUS investigation of the leaker? You seem thoroughly convinced it had to be some liberal - we are on the same page here. I'd love to know who leaked it.
The assassination attempt - lol. You mean the one where the assassin turned himself in for having a conscience? Aka that thing that Republicans don't have? This is why I don't engage in this forum anymore Chico. Your opinions are as predictable as the sunrise.[/quote] The Reddit assassin who turned himself in when he saw there was too much security. Maybe recognizing the radicalization of left wingers is a real thing. They are championing violence like aways. Anyways, take a look here: [url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-propublica-harlan-crow-1c4c2f41[/url] This was nothing more but a hit piece with Judge Thomas doing zero wrong. Nothing at all. “But it seems clear that the Court’s rules at the time all of this happened did not require that gifts of personal hospitality be disclosed. This includes the private plane trips. ProPublica fails to make clear to readers that the U.S. Judicial Conference recently changed its rules to require more disclosure. The new rules took effect last month.” |
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Chico still going with the radical left as a champion of the ultra maga radical right. Only read a couple of the best lines from this comedy classic. Sorry. Super busy. Tomorrow is Easter. The day when flags get raised that say he has risen ….. with a picture of Trump standing on top of a tank or something.
“All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012). Left-wing extremists engage in violence ranging from assaults to fire-bombings and arsons, but since the late 1980s have not often targeted people with deadly violence. The same cannot be said for domestic Islamist extremists, but deadly incidents linked to Islamist extremism have decreased significantly in the U.S. over the past five years. “ You won’t find any credible studies that say anything different. The extreme right is by far the most violent. “Over the past decade, right-wing extremists have committed the majority of extremist-related killings in all years but one—2016, the year of the shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, by a person motivated by Islamist extremism. Of the 444 people killed at the hands of extremists over the past 10 years, 335 (or 75%) were killed by right-wing extremists.4” [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230408/2c5594a75932e53eb57302fa2f5960ca.jpg[/IMG] But please do go on about the violence of the left and their thirst for blood…… |
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[quote=punch it in;1340415]Chico still going with the radical left as a champion of the ultra maga radical right. Only read a couple of the best lines from this comedy classic. Sorry. Super busy. Tomorrow is Easter. The day when flags get raised that say he has risen ….. with a picture of Trump standing on top of a tank or something.
“All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012). Left-wing extremists engage in violence ranging from assaults to fire-bombings and arsons, but since the late 1980s have not often targeted people with deadly violence. The same cannot be said for domestic Islamist extremists, but deadly incidents linked to Islamist extremism have decreased significantly in the U.S. over the past five years. “ You won’t find any credible studies that say anything different. The extreme right is by far the most violent. “Over the past decade, right-wing extremists have committed the majority of extremist-related killings in all years but one—2016, the year of the shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, by a person motivated by Islamist extremism. Of the 444 people killed at the hands of extremists over the past 10 years, 335 (or 75%) were killed by right-wing extremists.4” [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230408/2c5594a75932e53eb57302fa2f5960ca.jpg[/IMG] But please do go on about the violence of the left and their thirst for blood……[/quote] Punch he lives by the trump code, ignore the facts and push the lie! |
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[quote=Chico23231;1340414]The Reddit assassin who turned himself in when he saw there was too much security. Maybe recognizing the radicalization of left wingers is a real thing. They are championing violence like aways.
Anyways, take a look here: [url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-propublica-harlan-crow-1c4c2f41[/url] This was nothing more but a hit piece with Judge Thomas doing zero wrong. Nothing at all. “But it seems clear that the Court’s rules at the time all of this happened did not require that gifts of personal hospitality be disclosed. This includes the private plane trips. ProPublica fails to make clear to readers that the U.S. Judicial Conference recently changed its rules to require more disclosure. The new rules took effect last month.”[/quote] This is what you sound like. "There's nothing wrong at all about Justice Thomas taking free trips that cost upwards of 500k paid for by a guy [URL="https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/04/07/clarence-thomass-billionaire-benefactor-collects-hitler-artifacts/"]with an extensive collection of Nazi and dictator memorabilia[/URL]." |
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[quote=mooby;1340432]This is what you sound like.
"There's nothing wrong at all about Justice Thomas taking free trips that cost upwards of 500k paid for by a guy [URL="https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/04/07/clarence-thomass-billionaire-benefactor-collects-hitler-artifacts/"]with an extensive collection of Nazi and dictator memorabilia[/URL]."[/quote] Mooby, are your saying people who collect WW2 military are somehow Nazi sympathizers or just Nazis? What’s more “Nazi” or Fascist to you? Collecting historic WW2 military items or supporting entities that attack political opponents with violence in order to silence opinions you don’t like or supporting a government that works to censor individuals speech? |
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[quote=Chico23231;1340433]Mooby, are your saying people who collect WW2 military are somehow Nazi sympathizers or just Nazis?
What’s more “Nazi” or Fascist to you? Collecting historic WW2 military items[/quote] I get you're stupid but go back and read exactly what it is he wrote! You down play it as merely WWII "memorabilia", not what he said.[B] Mooby:" with an extensive collection of Nazi and dictator memorabilia."[/B] Big difference DA! |
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[quote=Giantone;1340434]I get you're stupid but go back and read exactly what it is he wrote! You down play it as merely WWII "memorabilia", not what he said.[B] Mooby:" with an extensive collection of Nazi and dictator memorabilia."[/B] Big difference DA![/quote]
Lol “big difference” So I do collecting myself, I have German officer swords from ww1 and ww2. Also have a confederate sword and bayonets from both World wars both sides. I did have ww1 binoculars German, English and from the Boear wars, foolishy sold that collection. Does this qualify me as a confederate nazi? I mean gotta be the left biggest boogeyman of all time. I should be some sort of comic book villain |
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[quote=mooby;1340432]This is what you sound like.
"There's nothing wrong at all about Justice Thomas taking free trips that cost upwards of 500k paid for by a guy [URL="https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/04/07/clarence-thomass-billionaire-benefactor-collects-hitler-artifacts/"]with an extensive collection of Nazi and dictator memorabilia[/URL]."[/quote] I just read that article and IMO I think it clears him of a "Nazi" fetish as that seems to be just a portion of an extensive collection that ranges from the extreme left to the extreme right. Heck he has statues of Churchill and Thatcher who he claims are his hero's. Nothing indicates the latter is not the truth and if Churchill is his hero that is a big indicator that he is not sympathetic to Nazis. I hate when people seize on bits and pieces about anyone (left or right - my co-worker does it all the time about Biden) to paint a disingenuous picture. |
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[quote=nonniey;1340437]I just read that article and IMO I think it clears him of a "Nazi" fetish as that seems to be just a portion of an extensive collection that ranges from the extreme left to the extreme right. Heck he has statues of Churchill and Thatcher who he claims are his hero's. Nothing indicates the latter is not the truth and if Churchill is his hero that is a big indicator that he is not sympathetic to Nazis. I hate when people seize on bits and pieces about anyone (left or right - my co-worker does it all the time about Biden) to paint a disingenuous picture.[/quote]
This is hilarious. The conservatives are talking about disingenuous pictures. Was it disingenuous when SCOTUS tossed 50 years of precedent in the shitter and took abortion rights away from women and gave it to the states? Was it disingenuous when a radical SCOTUS judge tried to hide his wealthy friends paying for plenty of his vacations for the last 20 years? A seminal moment in Warpath history. What a waste of a conversation. I leave with this: What do the words ethics/principles/precedent mean to you? |
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Collections and what they mean aside. The donor was completely schmoozing a SCJ to get his policy preferences on the books. And we are not talking about tickets to a game. This is super unethical and anyone who says differently has blinders on because it makes their side look bad.
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[quote=Chico23231;1340436]Lol “big difference”
So I do collecting myself, I have German officer swords from ww1 and ww2. Also have a confederate sword and bayonets from both World wars both sides. I did have ww1 binoculars German, English and from the Boear wars, foolishy sold that collection. Does this qualify me as a confederate nazi? I mean gotta be the left biggest boogeyman of all time. I should be some sort of comic book villain[/quote] It confirms you as an idiot and a fool. Still not the same thing . DA. |
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[quote=mooby;1340442]This is hilarious.
The conservatives are talking about disingenuous pictures. Was it disingenuous when SCOTUS tossed 50 years of precedent in the shitter and took abortion rights away from women and gave it to the states? Was it disingenuous when a radical SCOTUS judge tried to hide his wealthy friends paying for plenty of his vacations for the last 20 years? A seminal moment in Warpath history. What a waste of a conversation. I leave with this: What do the words ethics/principles/precedent mean to you?[/quote] Why was Democrat leader Hakim Jefferies invited and introduced by Harlen Crow a couple weeks ago speak at Crows business? Why would Jefferies being hanging with Nazis? Nazis hang with Nazis, amirite? Also Democratic Whip Clark was there with Dem Pete Aguilar. Both now confirmed Nazis Mooby please stay off Reddit, it’s 4chan but the other side. [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtSVSvTX0AIoy-S?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG] |
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[quote=Chico23231;1340446]Why was Democrat leader Hakim Jefferies invited and introduced by Harlen Crow a couple weeks ago speak at Crows business? Why would Jefferies being hanging with Nazis? Nazis hang with Nazis, amirite?
Also Democratic Whip Clark was there with Dem Pete Aguilar. Both now confirmed Nazis Mooby please stay off Reddit, it’s 4chan but the other side. [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtSVSvTX0AIoy-S?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/quote] post#2629 |
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I'm gonna get drunk tonight and sort all these issues out for us lol.
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[quote=Chico23231;1340446]Why was Democrat leader Hakim Jefferies invited and introduced by Harlen Crow a couple weeks ago speak at Crows business? Why would Jefferies being hanging with Nazis? Nazis hang with Nazis, amirite?
Also Democratic Whip Clark was there with Dem Pete Aguilar. Both now confirmed Nazis Mooby please stay off Reddit, it’s 4chan but the other side. [/quote] Did... did Crow pay Jeffries 500k to fly him out or to speak at his business? CAUSE IF SO FUCK HIM TOO. |
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I'll have to watch the other Jon Stewart clip recently posted. But this one was fantastic. And this same bullshit has been going on well before Biden. So not posting this because it's a democrat appointee. It's just the general disdain government officials across the board have for honesty. The government, both sides, are the fucking problem. And if you want to blame 1 side more than the other, go for it. But you'll either just be being dishonest about your sides blame or bragging about being only 38% of the problem.
[YT]50MusF365U0[/YT] The American people are fucking awesome, our government is a fucking embarrassment. |
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Is there 1 capitol* city in any of the 50 states, that votes more right than left? Even in states like Mississippi or Alabama, etc., that are clearly right leaning overall? If not, which we all don't even need to actually lookup, why is that?
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340459]I'll have to watch the other Jon Stewart clip recently posted. But this one was fantastic. And this same bullshit has been going on well before Biden. So not posting this because it's a democrat appointee. It's just the general disdain government officials across the board have for honesty. The government, both sides, are the fucking problem. And if you want to blame 1 side more than the other, go for it. But you'll either just be being dishonest about your sides blame or bragging about being only 38% of the problem.
[YT]50MusF365U0[/YT] The American people are fucking awesome, our government is a fucking embarrassment.[/quote] I love John Stewart. Honestly think he should be in Office. Watched the whole clip . I all so want to say I have two daughters who are married to Military men and have been living the a Military family lifestyle for a long time. Stewart makes very good points BUT so did she. Stewart tried to tie up audits and taking care of your personnel and she was right it's two different things. I work for the Maryland State Government and auditors and the budget writers are two different factions. Auditors are concerned with where is it and do you have and can account for all you are suppose to have. Taking care of the Military personnel and their families is a whole separate issue. Deciding where that 850 billion goes is not up to the auditors but to budget committees(not sure what they are really called). No argument from me that more needs to be done but John was wrong saying the can't show them where the money went in an audit. I thought she was pretty prepared for him. To add this has been an issue for decades not just under Biden but my kids have lived through this with trump, Obama and Bush and they all failed! |
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[quote=Giantone;1340463]I love John Stewart. Honestly think he should be in Office. Watched the whole clip . I all so want to say I have two daughters who are married to Military men and have been living the a Military family lifestyle for a long time. Stewart makes very good points BUT so did she. Stewart tried to tie up audits and taking care of your personnel and she was right it's two different things. I work for the Maryland State Government and auditors and the budget writers are two different factions. Auditors are concerned with where is it and do you have and can account for all you are suppose to have.
Taking care of the Military personnel and their families is a whole separate issue. Deciding where that 850 billion goes is not up to the auditors but to budget committees(not sure what they are really called). No argument from me that more needs to be done but John was wrong saying the can't show them where the money went in an audit. I thought she was pretty prepared for him. To add this has been an issue for decades not just under Biden but my kids have lived through this with trump, Obama and Bush and they all failed![/quote] I commend him for his patience. I found her to be quite disrespectful, and he didn't let it bother him. I understand you can't account for every dollar, but to me it just came off like, no big deal, the cost of doing business means losing track of hundreds of millions of dollars and is ho-hum, whatever, and expected. And don't question it. |
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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1340460]Is there 1 capitol* city in any of the 50 states, that votes more right than left? Even in states like Mississippi or Alabama, etc., that are clearly right leaning overall? If not, which we all don't even need to actually lookup, why is that?[/QUOTE]
There is an easy answer to this. It is cities in general not just capitol cities. It involves land claims from centuries ago. It involves segregation. It is why all the rural areas vote mostly right. |
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We need WAY more interviews like this across the spectrum. Huge fan of asking legitimate tough questions to government officials and making them actually answer. So many interviews are just cute little toss-ups to whoever is being interviewed, even if organized around "tough questions". Most times a tough question gets asked, and then whoever answers just goes on some tangent w/o actually answering the question, then they just move on. I hope Stewart keeps doing interviews like these, for government officials on both sides.
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[quote=punch it in;1340470]There is an easy answer to this. It is cities in general not just capitol cities. It involves land claims from centuries ago. It involves segregation. It is why all the rural areas vote mostly right.[/quote]
This is a topic that actually interests me, I need to look on Amazon to see if there are at least somewhat recent books on this subject. Not saying above isn't at least part of it, but I feel like there has to be way more to it than that. |
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