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[QUOTE=rickmmrr;1189228]I'm not sure if I'm just drinking all the recent cool-aide about this subject but I'm more and more thinking the same thing. Top that off with the idea of Tom Brady who just wants to win so badly that he's willing to take a pay cut.[/QUOTE]The thing is this really is recent. There were player complaints last year. Then there was reports of him constantly saying you like that when he made a pass in practice directing it Gruden or Mcloughan

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[QUOTE=Dan73;1189230]Then there was reports of him constantly saying you like that when he made a pass in practice directing it Gruden or Mcloughan

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What? Please share a link

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Giantone;1189226]I am surprised how many of you are backing the front office in this. After what the Skins did to him, he has played this perfectly.[/quote]

Go back in time and ask a lot of us if Kirk Cousins should've been signed to a LTD after 2015, and most of us would have said, absolutely, YES! Ask the talking heads and other sports fans from around the league during that point and they would've said, "Kirk hasn't beaten a winning team, hasn't won a playoff game, Kirk Cousins is a stat whore, Cousins is trash."

Go back to after the 2016 season, and a lot of us were saying, "Yes, we didn't make the playoffs but there's two winning seasons in a row, and Kirk proved that 2015 wasn't a fluke for him. So, he deserves to be paid!" However, also remember that during the off season, Kirk's agent said they were not interested in any contract negotiations until Cousins is tagged. That should've been the first sign that Cousins didn't want to be in Washington, and only a tremendous, outlandish contract would keep him here. I also remember hearing little comments (that I honestly didn't believe but now, maybe there was some truth to it) about how Cousins asked for a trade and about how he wasn't signing with Washington while Bruce Allen was in town. I have no idea if any of that was true, but seeing how everything has transpired, I'm not sure I wouldn't believe any of that stuff to be the case.

Having said that, in retrospect, the only chance the Redskins really had of signing Kirk Cousins was back in 2015. His bet on himself in 2016 was to prove he's marketable enough to leave town and make bank. The team did the best thing they could do in the present, which is let Cousins walk and sign Alex Smith. I support them 100% in this venture. Yes, they should've signed him after 2015, because honestly, they had no chance after 2016.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1189233]What? Please share a link[/QUOTE]I have seen him yell, 'You like that?!' at [Redskins general manager] Scot McCloughan," El-Bashir said. "He has this fire about him; he's not necessarily the most outspoken leader in that locker room, but he has this smoldering, fiery side to him."

"It goes all the way back into camp down in Richmond," Baker added. "When Kirk was the backup quarterback, he had done something good against the first team, he looked back at Coach Gruden and said, 'You like that! You like that don't you?'"

"And we all would get pissed off, like Kirk would you shut up? You're the backup man, leave us alone, man."

[url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14532867/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-as-happened-nfl[/url]

There was a report of him repeatedly saying how you like me now right at Scot M after the green bay game too.

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I think we’re all familiar with you like that by now. Why is it a negative 2 years after the fact when everyone was loving it back then?? The pile on continues.

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[quote=Dan73;1189238]I have seen him yell, 'You like that?!' at [Redskins general manager] Scot McCloughan," El-Bashir said. "He has this fire about him; he's not necessarily the most outspoken leader in that locker room, but he has this smoldering, fiery side to him."

"It goes all the way back into camp down in Richmond," Baker added. "When Kirk was the backup quarterback, he had done something good against the first team, he looked back at Coach Gruden and said, 'You like that! You like that don't you?'"

"And we all would get pissed off, like Kirk would you shut up? You're the backup man, leave us alone, man."

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14532867/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-as-happened-nfl]Kirk Cousins of Washington Redskins 'You like that?!' as it happened - NFL[/url]

[B]There was a report of him repeatedly saying how you like me now right at Scot M after the green bay game too.[/B]

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this we've all seen i think in clips online etc -- but the other stuff - i dont really feel its too far fetched. Everybody gets fired up.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1189240]I think we’re all familiar with you like that by now. Why is it a negative 2 years after the fact when everyone was loving it back then?? The pile on continues.[/QUOTE]You get excited after one game fine. You do it in practices or at the GM after a game and it begins to show a problem.

Drafting 2 rookie QBs the same year seemed to set this up.

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[quote=Giantone;1189226]I am surprised how many of you are backing the front office in this. After what the Skins did to him, he has played this perfectly.[/quote]

I agree he played the FO like a fiddle to get the most money with the least commitment. I agree that the FO had opportunities to go different routes that may or may not have worked. I don't agree with the comment "After what the Skins did to him". Sorry 2 FT and 45M later, with Gruden and SM backing him over RG3, IF he couldn't get past that, that's his issue, not the Skins.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Dan73;1189238]I have seen him yell, 'You like that?!' at [Redskins general manager] Scot McCloughan," El-Bashir said. "He has this fire about him; he's not necessarily the most outspoken leader in that locker room, but he has this smoldering, fiery side to him."

"It goes all the way back into camp down in Richmond," Baker added. "When Kirk was the backup quarterback, he had done something good against the first team, he looked back at Coach Gruden and said, 'You like that! You like that don't you?'"

"And we all would get pissed off, like Kirk would you shut up? You're the backup man, leave us alone, man."

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14532867/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-as-happened-nfl]Kirk Cousins of Washington Redskins 'You like that?!' as it happened - NFL[/url]

There was a report of him repeatedly saying how you like me now right at Scot M after the green bay game too.

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Those are the links I want to see? I remember when the "FANS ALL LOVED IT" but I want to read the links that said he did it all the time during practice as a back up?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1189245]I agree he played the FO like a fiddle to get the most money with the least commitment. I agree that the FO had opportunities to go different routes that may or may not have worked. I don't agree with the comment "After what the Skins did to him". Sorry 2 FT and 45M later, with Gruden and SM backing him over RG3, IF he couldn't get past that, that's his issue, not the Skins.[/quote]

He could have had a chance to compete and even be a starter on another team ,instead he had to sit behind RGIII and wait as a player I can see how that would piss him off.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1189247]He could have had a chance to compete and even be a starter on another team ,instead he had to sit behind RGIII and wait as a player I can see how that would piss him off.[/QUOTE]So sitting behind a number 2 overall pick for 2 years qualifies as the Skins doin him wrong 5 years later. Nah.

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[quote=Dan73;1189244]You get excited after one game fine. You do it in practices or at the GM after a game and it begins to show a problem. [/quote]

1) still don't believe he did it as you say,it's not him.

2) How the hell is it a problem?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1189249]So sitting behind a number 2 overall pick for 2 years qualifies as the Skins doin him wrong 5 years later. Nah.[/quote]

....you forgot to add in tagging him, twice and yes.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;1189250]1) still don't believe he did it as you say,it's not him.

2) How the hell is it a problem?[/QUOTE]That is fine if you don't want to believe heck I have met lung and throat cancer patients who will not give up smoking because they don't believe smoking causes cancer.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1189249]So sitting behind a number 2 overall pick for 2 years qualifies as the Skins doin him wrong 5 years later. Nah.[/QUOTE]I don't think they did him wrong but I wouldn't draft 2 rookies. You should have a vet to groom and guide a rookie. If you draft a guy with a fragile ego or who is impressionable you end up with what the Skins got.

The problem with what happened is both guys were about themselves and not the team.

RG3 become RGme

And all we heard about was Kirk getting on himself and Kirk's stats but ignore team wins.

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