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mooby 07-14-2020 09:27 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[url]https://youtu.be/zmT4XWtO9OY?t=156[/url]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

There's been a recent uptick in overdose deaths because people are being forced to stay home due to COVID. Which is why we need to reopen everything, to stop people from overdosing on drugs.

Ladies and gentlemen, the leader of the free world.

SunnySide 07-17-2020 04:42 PM

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Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz on Monday released the highly anticipated findings from his nearly two-year review concerning the origins of the Russia investigation and the issuance of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants for a Trump campaign official.


Here are some of the biggest takeaways from the 476-page report:

No political bias in launch of probe, FISA applications

The report said investigators found no intentional misconduct or political bias surrounding either the launch of the Trump-Russia investigation or as efforts to seek the controversial FISA warrant to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the early stages of that probe.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/7-takeaways-from-the-fisa-report[/url]

No witch hunt or political spying by president obama

sdskinsfan2001 07-17-2020 04:48 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1255883]Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz on Monday released the highly anticipated findings from his nearly two-year review concerning the origins of the Russia investigation and the issuance of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants for a Trump campaign official.

Here are some of the biggest takeaways from the 476-page report:

No political bias in launch of probe, FISA applications

The report said investigators found no intentional misconduct or political bias surrounding either the launch of the Trump-Russia investigation or as efforts to seek the controversial FISA warrant to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the early stages of that probe.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/7-takeaways-from-the-fisa-report[/url]

No witch hunt or political spying by president obama[/quote]

I got 2 words for this report: Fake News

:D ;) :food-smil

SunnySide 07-17-2020 05:32 PM

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Edit .. old article my bad

Giantone 07-18-2020 12:00 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
trump is a petty ass bitch!!!!!!!!!He has no respect for the position , the Office or the building he is living in,.......fuck him.


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-white-house-moves-bush-clinton-portraits-disused-053709874.html[/url]


Washington (AFP) - In a break with tradition, the White House of President Donald Trump has removed the portraits of two recent presidents, Bill Clinton and George W Bush, from the building's entrance hall, CNN reported Friday.

The two paintings were moved from the Grand Foyer, where the portraits of recent presidents usually hang, to the Old Family Dining Room, which CNN described as "a small, rarely used room that is not seen by most visitors."

It said the room was mainly used to store tablecloths and furniture.

In place of pictures of Trump's recent predecessors, there now hang pictures of William McKinley, who was assassinated in 1901, and of Theodore Roosevelt, his vice president who succeeded him upon his death, sources told CNN

Giantone 07-24-2020 10:19 AM

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Shit like this will not help their cause.


[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/t/ohio-man-in-custody-after-kneeling-on-white-toddlers-neck/vp-BB1770JZ[/url]

Isaiah Jackson, 20, has been put in jail and awaits new felony charges after a photo circulated on social media showing him posing with his knee to the neck of a crying, White 2-year-old boy.


I hope he meets Bubba in prison!



BLM's

punch it in 07-24-2020 10:25 AM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1256336]Shit like this will not help their cause.





[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/t/ohio-man-in-custody-after-kneeling-on-white-toddlers-neck/vp-BB1770JZ[/url]



Isaiah Jackson, 20, has been put in jail and awaits new felony charges after a photo circulated on social media showing him posing with his knee to the neck of a crying, White 2-year-old boy.





I hope he meets Bubba in prison!







BLM's[/QUOTE]



There are Assholes from all walks of life. The actions of one idiot should not hinder the advancement of black lives unless you are looking for a reason to hinder it in the first place. Same way if some asshole radical right wing nut job burns down a temple or commits a hate crime that should not hinder the advancement of say the conservative party just because the right is more conservative. Always always gotta avoid generalizations.
Obviously i know you do not think like that but for the “black and white” thinkers that do.

punch it in 07-24-2020 10:27 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1254918]LMFAOOO...



The Washington Post

@washingtonpost

Opinion: The Texas Rangers’ team name must go.



Members of the Texas Rangers force were violent agents of white supremacy.





Here’s the slope again...you can’t make this bullshit up.[/QUOTE]



Just once post an article from Fox or some right wing media source that starts with LMAO...it would be so much easier to accept your self proclaimed self thinker status...

Giantone 07-24-2020 11:58 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1256339]There are Assholes from all walks of life. The actions of one idiot should not hinder the advancement of black lives unless you are looking for a reason to hinder it in the first place. Same way if some asshole radical right wing nut job burns down a temple or commits a hate crime that should not hinder the advancement of say the conservative party just because the right is more conservative. Always always gotta avoid generalizations.
Obviously i know you do not think like that but for the “black and white” thinkers that do.[/quote]

Punch I agree,my problem is that BLM's doesn't do enough to separate themselves from assholes like this and that taints their message. There are assholes like this on all sides of the argument .

punch it in 07-24-2020 12:24 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1256351]Punch I agree,my problem is that BLM's doesn't do enough to separate themselves from assholes like this and that taints their message. There are assholes like this on all sides of the argument .[/QUOTE]



What can they do to separate themselves? People are gonna associate them with whoever fits their narrative. Anyone with half a brain can see this guy doesn’t represent them. The real problem isn’t blm separating from them its all the half brains running around. Lol

Giantone 07-24-2020 07:11 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1256353]What can they do to separate themselves? People are gonna associate them with whoever fits their narrative. Anyone with half a brain can see this guy doesn’t represent them. The real problem isn’t blm separating from them its all the half brains running around. Lol[/quote]

They can certainly do more than they are. They now have a platform to do what it is they want .Coming out and condemning the violence would be a nice start,condemn the black on black gang violence in Chicago and NYC to start.

SunnySide 07-26-2020 11:11 AM

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Believe in equality? ... jail
Peaceful protests? .... Straight to jail
Don’t own a confederate flag? .... jail, right away
Your neighbor is a brown person? .... believe it or not, both of you jail

Giantone 07-26-2020 12:17 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1256482]Believe in equality? ... jail
Peaceful protests? .... Straight to jail
Don’t own a confederate flag? .... jail, right away
Your neighbor is a brown person? .... believe it or not, both of you jail[/quote]

LOL, you and BLM's get along together, neither one of you make any sense.

MTK 07-27-2020 11:19 AM

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[URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/minnesota-shoppers-banned-from-walmart-for-wearing-swastika-masks-2020-7"]2 shoppers were barred from Walmart after wearing swastika face masks in a Minnesota store[/URL]

WTF

SolidSnake84 07-27-2020 12:42 PM

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[quote=mooby;1255192][url]https://youtu.be/zmT4XWtO9OY?t=156[/url]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

There's been a recent uptick in overdose deaths because people are being forced to stay home due to COVID. Which is why we need to reopen everything, to stop people from overdosing on drugs.

Ladies and gentlemen, the leader of the free world.[/quote]

You're wrong about that. Goddamn dude you are smarter than the stuff you post. Of course there is an uptick in overdose deaths because of the pandemic. People feel like they have no hope. People had their whole lives wiped out, quite literally. Family businesses were forced to close and go out of business for good. Parents are facing the thought of their kids growing up in isolation. Elderly people may never get to see their families ever again before they pass away. You have to be a total moron if you aren't even considering that the rise in overdoses and blatant suicides do not have anything to do with these shutdowns / lockdowns.

I'll guarantee you didn't spend 5 seconds of thought on this before automatically jumping to the conclusion - Trump said it, so its bad and wrong!

[url]https://www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/blog/crisis-care/evidence-that-lockdown-is-causing-extreme-mental-suffering-and-suicidal-crisis[/url]

Just one of hundreds of articles written on the subject if you would spend more than 30 seconds forming an opinion and actually research something.

I trust Dr. Fauci. He has stated many times that the lockdowns were terrible for mental health and he has mentioned and referenced the increases in suicides, drug use, etc. They had no better way at the time! We have a better ability now to test and trace, over 23 medications that are helpful in fighting the virus, vaccines that are promising and may be here by January, and people slowly but surely learning new and safer habits. America will forever be changed by this. People are NEVER going to go back to normal. Schools will NEVER be normal again, or workplaces or houses of worship. We may lose sports all-together. But we will find a new way, as we always have.

I apologize if my rant seems personal to you, it is not personal, but as a person who lost my uncle to suicide, your post is extremely offensive to me, that you brush off the effect lockdowns had on mental health and drug use and overdoses just because Donald Fucking Trump said it, so you assume it has to be wrong. And for the record i am no Trump supporter.

Giantone 07-27-2020 12:58 PM

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[quote=MTK;1256517][URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/minnesota-shoppers-banned-from-walmart-for-wearing-swastika-masks-2020-7"]2 shoppers were barred from Walmart after wearing swastika face masks in a Minnesota store[/URL]

WTF[/quote]

Not a fan of Walmart but good for them!

SunnySide 07-27-2020 01:26 PM

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The problem is trump has politized this entire thing for re election purposes. Read an article today how trump only started to take this seriously when he was told the spoke would be where “his people” live in the red states. The effects on the economy, mental health etc should all be taken into account in a weighing and balancing act ...


But fuck Trump. Anything he says is just if he sees it political beneficial to him. It is 100% fair to view his words and actions through that lens imo.

SolidSnake84 07-27-2020 02:02 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1256526]The problem is trump has politized this entire thing for re election purposes. Read an article today how trump only started to take this seriously when he was told the spoke would be where “his people” live in the red states. The effects on the economy, mental health etc should all be taken into account in a weighing and balancing act ...


But fuck Trump. Anything he says is just if he sees it political beneficial to him. It is 100% fair to view his words and actions through that lens imo.[/quote]

I agree with you! When / If they have to make the decision to shut down the country again, that is what they need to think about. I almost hate to say this on here, but one thing that i DO agree with Trump on, is that we can't let the "cure" become worse than the problem.

I really don't think anyone truly considered it the first time, because those governors in their lifetimes had never had to deal with anything like this. None of us did / have.

We also need to be coming up with a Plan B, in case these vaccines are not successful. Plan B is not / should not be shut down America for good and hide in our homes.

mooby 07-27-2020 07:40 PM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1256521]You're wrong about that. Goddamn dude you are smarter than the stuff you post. Of course there is an uptick in overdose deaths because of the pandemic. People feel like they have no hope. People had their whole lives wiped out, quite literally. Family businesses were forced to close and go out of business for good. Parents are facing the thought of their kids growing up in isolation. Elderly people may never get to see their families ever again before they pass away. You have to be a total moron if you aren't even considering that the rise in overdoses and blatant suicides do not have anything to do with these shutdowns / lockdowns.

I'll guarantee you didn't spend 5 seconds of thought on this before automatically jumping to the conclusion - Trump said it, so its bad and wrong!

[url]https://www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/blog/crisis-care/evidence-that-lockdown-is-causing-extreme-mental-suffering-and-suicidal-crisis[/url]

Just one of hundreds of articles written on the subject if you would spend more than 30 seconds forming an opinion and actually research something.

I trust Dr. Fauci. He has stated many times that the lockdowns were terrible for mental health and he has mentioned and referenced the increases in suicides, drug use, etc. They had no better way at the time! We have a better ability now to test and trace, over 23 medications that are helpful in fighting the virus, vaccines that are promising and may be here by January, and people slowly but surely learning new and safer habits. America will forever be changed by this. People are NEVER going to go back to normal. Schools will NEVER be normal again, or workplaces or houses of worship. We may lose sports all-together. But we will find a new way, as we always have.

I apologize if my rant seems personal to you, it is not personal, but as a person who lost my uncle to suicide, your post is extremely offensive to me, that you brush off the effect lockdowns had on mental health and drug use and overdoses just because Donald Fucking Trump said it, so you assume it has to be wrong. And for the record i am no Trump supporter.[/quote]

That article you posted, where exactly does it mention drug overdoses even one time? Where did you even get the idea that Trump was linking suicides to staying home because of COVID? LOL. He was saying drug overdoses are rising because people are staying home. Drug overdoses =/= suicide, unless someone chooses to commit suicide by intentionally OD'ing on drugs. And for the record, fuck off with that self-righteous nonsense. I'd be surprised if there was anyone here who hasn't had a friend or family member commit suicide. You thinking Trump is smart enough to articulate any sort of scientific theory is absolutely hilarious too. He couldn't diagnose a wet fart if it happened in his adult diapers.

SolidSnake84 07-27-2020 08:27 PM

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[quote=mooby;1256554]That article you posted, where exactly does it mention drug overdoses even one time? Where did you even get the idea that Trump was linking suicides to staying home because of COVID? LOL. He was saying drug overdoses are rising because people are staying home. Drug overdoses =/= suicide, unless someone chooses to commit suicide by intentionally OD'ing on drugs. And for the record, fuck off with that self-righteous nonsense. I'd be surprised if there was anyone here who hasn't had a friend or family member commit suicide. You thinking Trump is smart enough to articulate any sort of scientific theory is absolutely hilarious too. He couldn't diagnose a wet fart if it happened in his adult diapers.[/quote]

Self-Righteous? Fuck you for suggesting it. So by your logic because everyone on here has had a friend or family member commit suicide, does that mean you think it's no big deal? Do you think drug overdose is no big deal? Or families that were destroyed because of these lockdowns, where spouses and children couldn't get away from domestic abuse? Is domestic abuse no big fucking deal to you?

I told you my rant wasn't personal directed at you, and you had to make it personal by calling me self-righteous.

mooby 07-28-2020 06:09 AM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1256556]Self-Righteous? Fuck you for suggesting it. So by your logic because everyone on here has had a friend or family member commit suicide, does that mean you think it's no big deal? Do you think drug overdose is no big deal? Or families that were destroyed because of these lockdowns, where spouses and children couldn't get away from domestic abuse? Is domestic abuse no big fucking deal to you?

I told you my rant wasn't personal directed at you, and you had to make it personal by calling me self-righteous.[/quote]

I'm not gonna waste my time on you SS, go bait someone else with your inane bullshit.

Chico23231 07-28-2020 12:56 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
Insane Democrats making excuses for rioters in Seattle and Portland. I don’t get it at all

Giantone 07-28-2020 02:32 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1256608]. I don’t get it at all[/quote]



None, none of us are shocked by this admission!

SunnySide 07-28-2020 04:18 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1256608]Insane Democrats making excuses for rioters in Seattle and Portland. I don’t get it at all[/quote]

None of this makes sense.

Check out this thread [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/[/url] for just non-stop current videos.

No matter your bias .. theres videos there to confirm it for you.

Chico23231 07-28-2020 09:52 PM

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[YT]PJVTB9pXxe8[/YT]

Check this interview with garrett foster...Another peaceful protestor walking around with a gun a calling folks who oppose them pussies because they won’t don’t anything.

After the interview, He along with the mob surrounds a car and he raises his gun...then is shot down like the coward his was.

One tough guy...

mooby 07-29-2020 06:27 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1256632][YT]PJVTB9pXxe8[/YT]

Check this interview with garrett foster...Another peaceful protestor walking around with a gun a calling folks who oppose them pussies because they won’t don’t anything.

After the interview, He along with the mob surrounds a car and [B]he raises his gun[/B]...then is shot down like the coward his was.

One tough guy...[/quote]

Do you have any video evidence of this? Surely someone was filming.

Chico23231 07-29-2020 09:04 AM

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[quote=mooby;1256640]Do you have any video evidence of this? Surely someone was filming.[/quote]

Yeah there are still photos of him shouldering the weapon as the mob attacked a car because they beeped a horn.

Let’s be clear, these cowards who are out participating in violence and political intimidation are 1000% not victims.

His social media post advocated killing and injuring police. Glad he’s gone.

Here’s another one

[url]https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/07/28/samuel-young-aurora-mugshot-shooting-jeep-elijah-mcclain-protest/[/url]

A Jeep which never made contact with any protesters was shot at by a guy who missed and struck multiple other pieces of shit.

sdskinsfan2001 07-30-2020 03:31 AM

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I'm sorry, but it's time for motherfuckers to be put the fuck down.

[url]https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/blake-hampe/[/url]

The black lives matter protests aren't even going on anymore. It's been hijacked by white fucking losers like this piece of shit. Antifa might as well stand for white lazy fucking losers that don't want to work or leave mom's basement. But then blame the world because they are disgusting lazy piece of fucking shit losers.

Antifa and their losers should be the enemy of all Americans and especially black Americans and BLM.

Giantone 07-30-2020 05:53 AM

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=S9o9gtjClxY&feature=emb_logo[/url]

MTK 07-30-2020 11:42 AM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
This F'ing guy

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975"]Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election[/URL]

mooby 07-30-2020 01:12 PM

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[quote=MTK;1256736]This F'ing guy

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975"]Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election[/URL][/quote]

He's just tossing it out there casually just to gauge feedback. Probably trying to figure out if it's a legit option at this point, which according to reddit it's not.

SunnySide 07-30-2020 02:29 PM

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[quote=mooby;1256745]He's just tossing it out there casually just to gauge feedback. Probably trying to figure out if it's a legit option at this point, which according to reddit it's not.[/quote]

Id bet my house its to distract on the bad economic news today. This appears to be his MO when bad news is coming down the pipeline. When Ivanka was reported to have sent hundreds of emails from her personal email .. trump was worried how that would look so he made bombastic defenses of the Saudi Prince who just ordered the dismemberment of the reporter khashoggi.

And it worked.

------------------

The coronavirus pandemic triggered the sharpest economic contraction in modern American history, the Commerce Department reported Thursday.

[B]Gross domestic product — the broadest measure of economic activity — shrank at an annual rate of 32.9%[/B] in the second quarter as restaurants and retailers closed their doors in a desperate effort to slow the spread of the virus, which has killed more than 150,000 people in the U.S.

The economic shock in April, May and June was more than three times as sharp as the previous record — 10% in 1958 — and nearly four times the worst quarter during the Great Recession.
[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/896714437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever[/url]

The number of people who filed for unemployment benefits rose for the second consecutive week last week as coronavirus cases surged around the country.

Roughly 1.43 million people filed for unemployment last week, the Department of Labor said Thursday. The figure is a 12,000 increase from the previous week. Unemployment claims had been falling for four months from a peak in March.

The number of people collecting jobless benefits also increased to 17 million, up from 16.2 million the week prior.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2020-07-30/unemployment-claims-rise-for-second-consecutive-week[/url]

SolidSnake84 07-30-2020 03:16 PM

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Not defending Trump here at all, but if we are still in terrible shape like we are now come November, maybe postponing the election is not the most terrible decision. I know there is mail-in voting, but that is not the answer for the majority of people.

We will in all likelihood have a vaccine out to the masses by spring of 2021. Donald Trump would be President for 4 to 5 more months tops, if we voted in March / April. Maybe they could do something special due to the circumstances and he would leave office 30 days following the results of the election?

TheMalcolmConnection 07-30-2020 03:19 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[quote=mooby;1256745]He's just tossing it out there casually just to gauge feedback. Probably trying to figure out if it's a legit option at this point, which according to reddit it's not.[/quote]

He's been planting the seeds of this shit for months now. I wonder, who REALLY is his handler? Anything that I consider "the long game" is too far beyond his intellect. He's just too stupid.

SunnySide 07-30-2020 03:30 PM

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Problem is trump's motivation.

He wants schools open, state's open, no mask mandate, rallys and conventions ... but hes worried about COVID when it comes to elections?

I think it was just a distraction to take away from the GDP news personally.

Meh at this point.

I feel like Ive seen it all at this point.

MTK 07-30-2020 03:35 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1256758]Not defending Trump here at all, but if we are still in terrible shape like we are now come November, maybe postponing the election is not the most terrible decision. I know there is mail-in voting, but that is not the answer for the majority of people.

We will in all likelihood have a vaccine out to the masses by spring of 2021. Donald Trump would be President for 4 to 5 more months tops, if we voted in March / April. Maybe they could do something special due to the circumstances and he would leave office 30 days following the results of the election?[/quote]

Stop.

Giantone 07-30-2020 05:26 PM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1256758]Not defending Trump here at all, but if we are still in terrible shape like we are now come November, maybe postponing the election is not the most terrible decision. I know there is mail-in voting, but that is not the answer for the majority of people.

We will in all likelihood have a vaccine out to the masses by spring of 2021. Donald Trump would be President for 4 to 5 more months tops, if we voted in March / April. Maybe they could do something special due to the circumstances and he would leave office 30 days following the results of the election?[/quote]

You need to see a Doctor , seriously!

Giantone 07-30-2020 05:30 PM

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[quote=mooby;1256745]He's just tossing it out there casually just to gauge feedback. Probably trying to figure out if it's a legit option at this point, which according to reddit it's not.[/quote]

BS, you know trump and wants this bad ..The Supreme Court is the only thing stopping him if he gets it by the Senate.

mooby 07-30-2020 08:15 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1256760]Problem is trump's motivation.

He wants schools open, state's open, no mask mandate, rallys and conventions ... but hes worried about COVID when it comes to elections?

[B]I think it was just a distraction to take away from the GDP news personally. [/B]

Meh at this point.

I feel like Ive seen it all at this point.[/quote]

I defer to you on this because that is right in Trump's playbook. The more I think about it, the more I think his only motivation to be reelected is to avoid charges being brought against him once he's out of office. He's already gained a ton financially through being POTUS in between milking every government staying at his properties, or the tax bill that no doubt saw increased savings going his way.

Giantone 07-31-2020 08:56 PM

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[quote=MTK;1256736]This F'ing guy

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975"]Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election[/URL][/quote]

Good stuff here...................


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=OIts_HmSH7U&feature=emb_logo[/url]


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