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Looks like Thomas Jones is headed to the Lions

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[quote=Mechanix544;670878]Oh, I have a question. What is up with Barnes, the CB we took out of maryland last year in the 3rd round???? Is he even on the squad, or on the prac. squad???? Is he set to bust like a balloon, or is there still hope that he could be at least a nickel for us????[/quote]

Give the guy a little time. He had some run at the end of the year.

Tryon took a while too and played the nickel pretty well last year.

But, for all of those who think we should drop Carlos for a bag of peanuts think again. Not only do we need to keep Carlos, I think we need another veteran corner who can start.

If we are going to use Hall to return kicks (which should be a no brainer) we definitely need another veteran corner.

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I agree pocket. I am surprised we haven't made a play for Smoots replacement yet. Are there any decent FA corners still on the market that are actually serviceable?

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[QUOTE]Looks like Thomas Jones is headed to the Lions[/QUOTE]
are you talking about a visit or signing?

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;670704]Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

The Bears and Seattle are the only teams acting like Vinny Cerrato. We are choosing to spend WISELY this year. There are plenty of signings left in our future, just no overspending.

If we sign Kemo and a linebacker we will be just as formidable up front. Hell, we may play Phat Al at linebacker. Haslett says he can do it.[/quote]

That was a tribute to his versatility, you can bet your life that AH will not see time at LB.

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[quote=53Fan;670813]Detroit seems to be building up their d-line in free agency. I wonder if this is clearing the way to take Okung at #2 instead of Suh?[/quote]

that'd be one expensive d-line if they added suh

I think that I mentioned that could complicate things with Okung's draft point too

I mean they could always go Berry or trade back too

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If the Lions did take Okung there still are top quality linemen available and I am sure the FO has a lot of them scouted. AS long as Bruce and his boys have a solid plan, that is all that counts. No more ad hoc getting the best player or more accurately the "sexy" pic.

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If Okung is gone at #4, I can see us taking Clausen. I'm not saying that I necessarily want us to, I'm just trying to be realistic. I wish we knew what Double Shanahan think about Clausen.

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[quote=Lotus;670910]If Okung is gone at #4, I can see us taking Clausen. I'm not saying that I necessarily want us to, I'm just trying to be realistic. I wish we knew what Double Shanahan think about Clausen.[/quote]

Been thinking about the possibility too. I trust Shanny/Allen far more than any previous time of Snyder's ownership (w/ Vinny finally out completely) but it's not like they're infallible. I don't know the first thing to look for in a college QB beyond the obvious: pocket presence, ability to move, accuracy, arm strength and quick release. Bottom line is neither Clausen nor Bradford's tape is overly impressive. I think every year teams get caught up in the dream of a franchise QB, often selecting a guy who just doesn't have it. I hope we don't waste the 4th overall pick on a dud.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;670909]If the Lions did take Okung there still are top quality linemen available and I am sure the FO has a lot of them scouted. AS long as Bruce and his boys have a solid plan, that is all that counts. No more ad hoc getting the best player or more accurately the "sexy" pic.[/quote]

Okung isn't the only guy. I mentioned this before but I have seen Davis ahead of Okung on more than one ranking.

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Ok. So to play a little bit of devil's advocate here. If Okung, Bradford, and Suh are gone at 4. Do you take Buluga OR does Shanny take CJ Spiller to be our feature back for the next 6 years. I am not saying I would take him because there are many holes that we have to fill. But a guy like Spiller must intriuge Shanny because he is so versitile. I could see MS not reaching for Clausen and drafting CJ. I know I have heard of taking Berry at 4 to, but I think you then get us into Lions territory when you are talking about the Skins using there last 4 top ten draft picks on secondary guys.

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Shanhan has never taken a 1st round RB. NEVER. That's why Knowshon getting drafted where he did last year made its fair share of noise.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;670923]Ok. So to play a little bit of devil's advocate here. If Okung, Bradford, and Suh are gone at 4. Do you take Buluga OR does Shanny take CJ Spiller to be our feature back for the next 6 years. I am not saying I would take him because there are many holes that we have to fill. But a guy like Spiller must intriuge Shanny because he is so versitile. I could see MS not reaching for Clausen and drafting CJ. I know I have heard of taking Berry at 4 to, but I think you then get us into Lions territory when you are talking about the Skins using there last 4 top ten draft picks on secondary guys.[/quote]

I would rather him take Davis or trade back in this scenario. I know Spiller is a very talented player, but given the lack of FA o-linemen acquisitions at the tackle position, I would rather see Davis picked up or trade down to get a Bruce Campbell. I know trade down is easier said than done, but I maybe a team would be willing to do this with Clausen or Berry available.

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Take into account the way Shannahan has drafted in the past, its a good bet that Jimmy Clausen will be the pick at #4 if Bradford is off the board..

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;670918]Okung isn't the only guy. I mentioned this before but I have seen Davis ahead of Okung on more than one ranking.[/quote]

I personally think that from a draft standpoint Davis should never be rated ahead of Okung. However I have started to notice what a lot of the hype is about and given his experience in a zone blocking scheme he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize should Okung and Bradford be off the board when we select.

Obviously one thing Davis has is size. However at the same time he's relatively quick for a tackle. His greatest asset though right now in pass protection seems to be his punch. You don't necessarily notice it when you watch a game at full speed but if you pay close attention you can see how strong he really is at least in terms of upper body strength.

What I don't like about him though is a lot of plays where I don't see him finish. Maybe he's trying to avoid penalties but one thing I constantly saw in the Bulaga/Okung highlight/lowlight videos were a wiilingness to finish on every play.

Theres also concerns with Davis about motivation and weight control which could easily go either way when he becomes a millionare. On one hand you wonder if he's a poor college student that doesn't really have the means to eat right and when he gets rich he can afford the right foods or even go so far as to hire a personal cheif. At the same time does he take his hefty signing bonus and buy an aisle worth of chips?

Then you have to wonder if a staff like Shanhan's that preaches dicisipline and accountability will be able to get the most out of him. He really is an intriguing prospect, the question becomes do the pro's outweight the cons with Anthony Davis as a Washington Redskin.