Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

If Sean would have killed them, than Stand your ground would have applied. Threshold of law is usually the doorway, window...once someone comes in your household without permission and intent to harm, they are fair game to be killed.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1015269]If Sean would have killed them, than Stand your ground would have applied. Threshold of law is usually the doorway, window...once someone comes in your household without permission and intent to harm, they are fair game to be killed.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=Chico23231;1015268]killing someone in the commission of a felony (B&E, home invasion, robbery) is a way different situation. not comparable[/quote]

Impersonating an officer is a crime. Now what?

[QUOTE=RGIII;1015267]Well I guess we can stop crying over Sean Taylor's death [b]using your twisted (legal) logic.[/b] Clearly Sean was killed by the intruders who feared their own lives.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Clearly to some here, the presumption of innocence we are ALL entitled to when accused of a crime is pretty "twisted (legal) logic".

Pitchforks and torches are so much easier and require much less thought.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1015270]Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".[/quote]
Not true.

[QUOTE=RGIII;1015271]Impersonating an officer is a crime. Now what?[/QUOTE]

Really? You realize he wasn't even charged with that? That even the prosecution didn't once allege that's what he was doing?

Got your lynching rope all ready to go I take it.

[QUOTE=RGIII;1015273]Not true.[/QUOTE]
That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1015275]That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.[/quote]LOL, I know, right?

"RGIII" had me totally convinced at the bit about [[U]breaking into someone's home and trying to bust down the bedroom door where that someone's girlfriend and baby daughter are[/U]] is the same as [[U]following someone outdoors in a public area, then that someone is on top of you beating you up[/U]].

I can hardly wait to hear what "RGIII" thinks "impersonating a police officer" means.

:laughing-

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1015274]Really? You realize he wasn't even charged with that? That even the prosecution didn't once allege that's what he was doing?

Got your lynching rope all ready to go I take it.[/quote]
Well since you guys are so smart, play nigg-- I mean devil's advocate and defend Martin's case. You guys got OJ off the first time right? Or were you guys mad at that because he was black. The truth is, if Zimmerman was a gung-ho black wannabe cop who killed a white kid in the same scenario he would have be, tried, found guilty of murder, and executed the same day. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway...

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

Not cool man. Not cool

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1015270]Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".[/quote]

Yeah...i added on at the end. I thought about after and intent is understood.

I tell you what interesting is confusion around someone in your yard and taking property. In Va you cant shoot and kill someone in breaking into/stealing your car or stealing property out the yard. But I want to say thats different around the country. In some states i think you can. Not sure I could be the one confused...

One of the more idiotic posts on WP, ever, RGIII, AND I include all of mine in that calculation.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

[quote=RGIII;1015287]Well since you guys are so smart, play nigg-- I mean devil's advocate and defend Martin's case. You guys got OJ off the first time right? Or were you guys mad at that because he was black. The truth is, if Zimmerman was a gung-ho black wannabe cop who killed a white kid in the same scenario he would have be, tried, found guilty of murder, and executed the same day. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway...[/quote]

*sigh*

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
 

Zimmermqn said that Martin circled his car and despite his "fear" of him he still managed to get out of his car. That is not reasonable and it certainly diminishes his claim of fearing for his life. If the question is if there is a reason to doubt the evidence against him I can find non.

Even though I recognize you believe it did not happen to that way, explain how the factual scenario I set forth in post 1016 [i]could not[/I] be true by using only direct evidence or inferences consistent with those in the post.