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sdskinsfan2001 01-02-2017 07:09 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1161286]And if he said that you would have zero problem with it?[/quote]

Nope. Just be straight up, that's all I ask for. I don't need any sugar coating or spinning.

warriorzpath 01-02-2017 07:09 PM

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1161286]And if he said that you would have zero problem with it?[/QUOTE]



He should've not even talked about it and let his agents and the Redskins deal with it. That's the best way to handle it in the media- not to have it in the media.

warriorzpath 01-02-2017 07:11 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
It's not a good look especially after yesterday's poor performance. Didn't waste anytime did he?

MTK 01-02-2017 07:12 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
I guarantee that Cousin's camp is going to come to the table with this, he got $19m this year, the tag for next year is $24m, and in 2018 it's $34m. So that's 3 years at $77m or $25.6m per year.

In the end I think a deal worth $22-23m per year makes sense.

sdskinsfan2001 01-02-2017 07:19 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1161290]I guarantee that Cousin's camp is going to come to the table with this, he got $19m this year, the tag for next year is $24m, and in 2018 it's $34m. So that's 3 years at $77m or $25.6m per year.

In the end I think a deal worth $22-23m per year makes sense.[/quote]

Yeah, I could see that. We'll see how it works out. Hopefully if he gets that, we bet right and he takes the next step during big games next year.

htownskinfan 01-02-2017 07:46 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1161182][B][/B][QUOTE=htownskinfan;1161139]LOL I am calm,I'm not one of the ones screaming dont resign him.And to say no chance Colt plays better is purely speculation on your part,just as it was on mine.I think everyone agrees Kirk did not play well yesterday.2 bad picks and no es-capability out of the pocket.To say Colt couldnt have come in and and did better than throwing 2 costly picks and only putting 10 points on the board is not unrealistic on my part.
But again,let me reiterate,I am not calling on Colt to be the starter.I do think [B]Colt can handle the pressure of a big game better [/B]and to think he could have not done better yesterday is not unrealistic.[/QUOTE

[B][I]What big game has Colt played in that proves your point?[/I][/B][/quote]

Well there hasnt been a lot,but I would say getting his first start ever for the skins in 2014 when we were 2-5 and went into Dallas to play the 6-1 cowboys on MNF with his parents and friends in the stands and going 25-30 for 299 yards and the win.Not what you would call a "big" game,but I would call it a "pressure" situation for him and in prime time no less.
And in college he won 3 out of 4 bowl games and played very well in all 3.As a senior after leading Texas to a 13-0 record probably would have won his 4th bowl game and the national championship if he doesnt get hurt after going 2 for 2.
So thats all I got

irish 01-03-2017 06:43 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1161290]I guarantee that Cousin's camp is going to come to the table with this, he got $19m this year, the tag for next year is $24m, and in 2018 it's $34m. So that's 3 years at $77m or $25.6m per year.

In the end I think a deal worth $22-23m per year makes sense.[/quote]

I agree.

NC_Skins 01-03-2017 09:23 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
You can tell that this whole demeanor he has about staying with the Redskins is definitely personal. I think he feels slighted and unwanted by Dan/Bruce and he more than wants to stick it to those two assholes. (especially Dan) Let's be real, it's Dan who stopped Cousins career from advancing sooner due to his love for RG3, and even had to have Scott stick up for him to even remain on the team. (otherwise he would have been traded)

punch it in 01-03-2017 09:31 AM

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Who cares about anything other than Kirks play on the field, and how much money it warrants going forward.
That being said it is crazy that anyone thinks he has been anything other than 110% professional about the whole matter.
Also Colt is not the answer at all. If KC leaves, there better be a better option than Colt.

punch it in 01-03-2017 09:42 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1161329]You can tell that this whole demeanor he has about staying with the Redskins is definitely personal. I think he feels slighted and unwanted by Dan/Bruce and he more than wants to stick it to those two assholes. (especially Dan) Let's be real, it's Dan who stopped Cousins career from advancing sooner due to his love for RG3, and even had to have Scott stick up for him to even remain on the team. (otherwise he would have been traded)[/QUOTE]



I do not think he is bitter about the RG-3 situation. Lets face it. Griff was the number two pick, and he was the roy. He has to understand that you do not just give up on that after year one?
I think Kirk certainly plays with a chip on his shoulder, but that is a good thing.

hutch17 01-03-2017 10:40 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
I think they will use the non-exclusive or transition tag on him. That will cost less and is someone takes him we get two first round picks.

skinsfaninok 01-03-2017 10:43 AM

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[IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170103/549452968cc803a0e6fd40428d2082f7.jpg[/IMG]

skinsfan69 01-03-2017 10:57 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1161298][quote=skinsfan69;1161182][B][/B]

Well there hasnt been a lot,but I would say getting his first start ever for the skins in 2014 when we were 2-5 and went into Dallas to play the 6-1 cowboys on MNF with his parents and friends in the stands and going 25-30 for 299 yards and the win.Not what you would call a "big" game,but I would call it a "pressure" situation for him and in prime time no less.
And in college he won 3 out of 4 bowl games and played very well in all 3.As a senior after leading Texas to a 13-0 record probably would have won his 4th bowl game and the national championship if he doesnt get hurt after going 2 for 2.
So thats all I got[/quote]

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.

NC_Skins 01-03-2017 11:11 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
This is a good breakdown from Cooley on Cousins play this year. (per game)



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BWdqpOU.jpg[/IMG]


[url]https://twitter.com/D_Wright_One/status/816286640511610881[/url]


The inconsistency is probably why they aren't sold on him entirely.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-03-2017 11:22 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
I'm just wondering how other QBs out there would compare on that Cooley scale? I bet a lot of Pro Bowlers would have similar ratings.


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