Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

I would feel [B]CHEATED[/B] and I may just throw up! JC had better see extensive playing time for the rest of the season or Gibbs needs to go back to racing, and leave football behind.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244844]ok now we're in complete agreement, almost. while i do see why we started with Brunell this season, he definitely earned it last year with his solid performance - i think it was more than apparent that our defense wasn't the same and Brunell couldn't even try and make up that difference alot earlier than week 10.

you do seem to recognize that it's actually called for by now, but do you really think it'll happen now?[/QUOTE]


I honestly think Gibbs will either wait until we've lost 8 games, or if we lose this week. Despite being mathematically "in it" I definitely feel it's time to put Campbell in there and see what he can do now! It's not going to fix the other problems that we need to address, but it gives him at least 7 games of playing experience against starting defenses.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=#56fanatic;244846]let me start by saying this : Ramsey, if you go back to the video of the Bears game was playing pretty damn good.[/quote]

lay off the bottle dude, seriously

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

If Collins starts instead of Campbell, I will take it to mean that Gibbs is trying to save the season. It would also mean that JC as "co-#2 qb" was a farce. I would be devastated, it would mean that we traded three potential starters (the three high picks we sent to Denver) for a backup qb that the coaching staff doesn't want to play.

So if Brunell gives us the best chance to win, does playing Campbell give us at least a better shot at not losing?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;244854]lay off the bottle dude, seriously[/QUOTE]

aw c'mon. his NAME is #56Fanatic for chrissakes..:party-smi

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=Warpath;244697]I've heard and read many different places that JC might not be completely ready to step in. Remember what happened with Ramsey? He was shoved in there and had NO chance. He lost all his confindence and has been damaged goods ev er since. My question to the board is, How will you feel if Todd Collins is named the starter instead of JC?[/QUOTE]

There was a recent interview with Barack Obama, where he was posed with the question of whether or not he would be fully ready to be president if he were elected.

His response was that no one is fully ready to be president until they are in office. They are presented with the situation and either they succeed or they fail.

My opinion on Campbell is this: enough hand-holding. If he is going to be a starting quarterback in this league, he needs to be tough enough to enter the fray and prove it.

Honestly, I don't know what they are waiting for at this point in time? Its not like this guy is some child who can't even wipe his own ass. This guy is a 24 or 25 year old professional athlete.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;244854]lay off the bottle dude, seriously[/quote]


Are you saying he didn't play better in the 1st quarter than Brunell played the rest of the game? I was at the game and other than the INT, he played well. And, was going up against one of the better D's in the NFL.

Granted I was drinking A LOT before and during the game, but from what I remember he played well.

lay off the name. We will have another #56 soon. Maybe Rocky will change his number

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

that would be the most retarded thing ever. the future is now as george allen would say.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=illdefined;244858]aw c'mon. his NAME is #56Fanatic for chrissakes..:party-smi[/quote]

You know I am not going to change it! just because everyone wants me to. patience, there will be another 56.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=#56fanatic;244878]You know I am not going to change it! just because everyone wants me to. patience, there will be another 56.[/QUOTE]

nah don't. that's cool you kept it, for a long tumultous time, LaVar was the sole highlight for the Redskins, showed tons more passion here than alot of the guys today.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

im just ready for a change now. atleast saunders trusts collins

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Great game was an overstatement certainly, but he played in an equal capacity to Brunell. Ramsey is ramsey, he'll throw more INTs than Brunell (but Brunell will make that up in fumbles) and when our defense was playing like it was, you could afford more turnovers if you moved the ball.

Plus, I don't consider 1 quarter much of a chance to prove yourself.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=#56fanatic;244876]Are you saying he didn't play better in the 1st quarter than Brunell played the rest of the game? I was at the game and other than the INT, he played well. And, was going up against one of the better D's in the NFL.

Granted I was drinking A LOT before and during the game, but from what I remember he played well.

lay off the name. We will have another #56 soon. Maybe Rocky will change his number[/quote]

This is what I said in another thread:

[quote]
How in the hell did Ramsey look "pretty solid" with this stat line:

6 of 11, 105 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, sacked twice, 2 fumbles, 49.4 QB rating.

Yeah, really freaking solid. Solidly bad.

This crap about Ramsey looking good in that game is one of the stupidest arguments ever discussed on any message board.
[/quote]

Yes, Brunell definitely played better than Ramsey in that game. His stat line from that game:

8 of 14, 70 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 1 sack, 0 fumbles, 70.5 QB rating.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Why are we even discussing Patrick Ramsey?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=Daseal;244891]Great game was an overstatement certainly, but he played in an equal capacity to Brunell. Ramsey is ramsey, he'll throw more INTs than Brunell (but Brunell will make that up in fumbles) and when our defense was playing like it was, you could afford more turnovers if you moved the ball.

Plus, I don't consider 1 quarter much of a chance to prove yourself.[/quote]

Great, good, solid... none of those terms fit when describing his performance that day. The fact is he played like shit. 1 INT and 2 fumbles in 1 quarter and people describe that as playing well? Please, that's just insanely ridiculous.

Brunell came in and didn't play great or good, but he was solid enough to help contribute to the win.

I'm not going to even argue about this "he only had 1 quarter to prove himself" nonsense. If you really believe the decision to bench him was made on that 1 quarter of football you are insane.