Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=Big C;290533]i had a dream last night that i had to make the draft choice out of nowhere, and for some reason the first 5 picks were defensive ends, and i took landry...maybe its a sign[/quote]That's crazy!

How could you pass on Calvin Johnson!!!!111!!!!111!!one

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

Let me expand on the reason why I like the idea of Landry. FS with his skills don't come around every year, especially when your in a postion to draft them. If we draft him, IMO we would be set in the secondary for the next ten years. We could have average corners, which to me are a dime a dozen like decent RB's, and always expect plays to be made by our defensive secondary. It is also a "safer" pick because you can almost garauntee that Landry is going to be a stud. I don't know if the same can be said for any of the DL prospects. It would be an unorthodox set up, I mean, who has two probowl safties? But I honestly think it would work. Landry is the ballhawking FS and Taylor can MASH people all day long, and still give you coverage when you need it. Now, if we go for it and we completely blow this year, next year we'll be in position to go after DL early in the first and second rounds of the draft, as well as look at free agents. Do you really think that taking a DL would make or break this season? I like our chances now and in the future on D with Landry and Taylor back there. DL can and will be addressed. You don't HAVE TO take one in this years first round.

On top of all that it would just be fun to see how a Defense employed two safties of that caliber. I imagine it would give opposing teams fits, especially a little further down the road once we beef up our pass rush. It doesn't all have to be done in one offseason. Can you imagine those two back there once the front seven catches up and generates and NFL pass rush?

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;290574]Let me expand on the reason why I like the idea of Landry. FS with his skills don't come around every year, especially when your in a postion to draft them. If we draft him, IMO we would be set in the secondary for the next ten years. We could have average corners, which to me are a dime a dozen like decent RB's, and always expect plays to be made by our defensive secondary. It is also a "safer" pick because you can almost garauntee that Landry is going to be a stud. I don't know if the same can be said for any of the DL prospects. It would be an unorthodox set up, I mean, who has two probowl safties? But I honestly think it would work. Landry is the ballhawking FS and Taylor can MASH people all day long, and still give you coverage when you need it. Now, if we go for it and we completely blow this year, next year we'll be in position to go after DL early in the first and second rounds of the draft, as well as look at free agents. Do you really think that taking a DL would make or break this season? I like our chances now and in the future on D with Landry and Taylor back there. DL can and will be addressed. You don't HAVE TO take one in this years first round.

On top of all that it would just be fun to see how a Defense employed two safties of that caliber. I imagine it would give opposing teams fits, especially a little further down the road once we beef up our pass rush. It doesn't all have to be done in one offseason. Can you imagine those two back there once the front seven catches up and generates and NFL pass rush?[/quote]

Joe Gibbs and Snyder are not dummies. They see the talent. I'm sure Landry is a real consideration for us at # 6. A guy like that has to be. Especially with AA last year and no real replacement.

Come on now, are we banking on Omar? He stinks! I don't like that signing at all. PP, his knee injury is the most severe you can have.

I think our D line is not that bad......we're aging but not terrible. Daniels and Carter can get it done. Griffin needs to stay healthy but he's a probowler......the new guy at tackle was good also.

Having Fletcher anchor our D from the middle is very solid. Best signing for us in a long while.......

I'd love to see us take a chance with Landry but would not be heart broken with Gaines Adams or Branch.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

Well there's still the slighty outside the box thinking of moving Springs to safety.

Or we could go really crazy and move LeMar Marshall back to his college position of safety

Seriously though, is there any team we can trade down with that would give us picks and a veteran safety?

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

i think we only move springs to safety if we bring in a top corner. hes the only #1 corner we have. rogers and smoot would be ok, but who would be the nickel? the ade? stoutmire?

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

I think the whole argument comes down to drafting for need, or drafting for talent. Obviously our biggest need is on the D line, but we are likely to have the choice of better talent at the #6 spot.

Personally, I think the best policy is to draft for VALUE.

Imagine that all teams have the same number of picks. The teams which get the most value from their draft picks will have the most effective draft. Their draft picks will have been put to better use than teams which don't draft for value (i.e.: more bang for your buck).

So, the question is: who is the better value, Landry or the top-rated DL available at #6?

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

Think about it guys, The Washington Redskins made AA the highest paid safety in NFL history last year!

We obviously value that position tremendouly.

Not out of this world we go with Landry at # 6.

Just think about it........

Springs isn't the answer, he's capable but not the long term fix.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;290582]Well there's still the slighty outside the box thinking of moving Springs to safety.

Seriously though, is there any team we can trade down with that would give us picks and a veteran safety?[/QUOTE]
The sentence above reeks of a move for Dre Bly...#21 and Bly for #6...

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

Just a thought, Is this talk of Landry with the #6 pick just a means to leverage the Falcons for a 1st round Swap and additional picks?

I agree Landry is good but isn't he worth passing up on if we could acquire another Day 1 pick in the process?

Also what the hell is this talk of us moving up to get Jamarcus Russell? Please tell me thats a joke.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;290592]I think the whole argument comes down to drafting for need, or drafting for talent. Obviously our biggest need is on the D line, but we are likely to have the choice of better talent at the #6 spot.

Personally, I think the best policy is to draft for VALUE.

Imagine that all teams have the same number of picks. The teams which get the most value from their draft picks will have the most effective draft. Their draft picks will have been put to better use than teams which don't draft for value (i.e.: more bang for your buck).

So, the question is: who is the better value, Landry or the top-rated DL available at #6?[/quote]


I like your idea, but could you explain the concept of "value" a little more. Although I don't know [I]exactly[/I] what you mean, I think one of the biggest hurdles to signing Landry would be a question of how much can you spend on saftey, which has typically been one of the NFL defensive positions that receives less cap space. Signing Landry could potentially give us problems signing players at more "important" positions. This is obviously something to think about. Honestly, I would only do it if I thought that a Landry/Taylor combo could actually "change the game" and give us a real advantage over teams that wouldn't have that kind of talent and versatility at saftey.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

If we can we need to trade down.If that isn't an option then okye,j.anderson or gaines adams.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=Longtimefan;290313]Is the hammer down yet? You're a patient man Matty.[/quote]


yeah man you really are that guy is an ass how long is he banned for

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;290592]I think the whole argument comes down to drafting for need, or drafting for talent. Obviously our biggest need is on the D line, but we are likely to have the choice of better talent at the #6 spot.

Personally, I think the best policy is to draft for VALUE.

Imagine that all teams have the same number of picks. The teams which get the most value from their draft picks will have the most effective draft. Their draft picks will have been put to better use than teams which don't draft for value (i.e.: more bang for your buck).

So, the question is: who is the better value, Landry or the top-rated DL available at #6?[/quote]Good post. Very well said.

Value is relative to your team, and players have different values to each team. But one leaguewide rule of thumb is that EVERY position on the D Line is more valuable than the second safety.

I guess the arguement can be made that Landry will be a better player than Sean Taylor, and I would agree with that, but Landry + Taylor really isn't a whole lot different than Taylor + Prioleau. Ultimately the entire state of our safeties comes back to how much discipline ST wants to play with. Landry or not, its going to be a good situation if Taylor plays smart, and a bad one if he is a giant hole in coverage a la last year. Landry wont make a huge impact either way, ESPECIALLY AS A ROOKIE.

Any D Lineman is more valuable than Landry.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

[quote=JDALY27;290579]Joe Gibbs and Snyder are not dummies. They see the talent. I'm sure Landry is a real consideration for us at # 6. A guy like that has to be. Especially with AA last year and no real replacement.

Come on now, are we banking on Omar? He stinks! I don't like that signing at all. PP, his knee injury is the most severe you can have.

I think our D line is not that bad......we're aging but not terrible. Daniels and Carter can get it done. Griffin needs to stay healthy but he's a probowler......the new guy at tackle was good also.

Having Fletcher anchor our D from the middle is very solid. Best signing for us in a long while.......

I'd love to see us take a chance with Landry but would not be heart broken with Gaines Adams or Branch.[/quote]Has Corneilius Griffin ever been to a pro bowl?

I don't know how you are evaluating these players. We had the flat out worst defensive line in the league last year. We were horrible vs. the run, and horrible vs. the pass. We need fresh blood.

Stoutmire isn't the starter at safety. Prioleau is coming off a major injury (in September of last year, he's already 6+ months into his recovery), but will likely be fine for next season.

The point is, we had Archuleta on the roster. We could have kept him as an established talent and given him a shot to win his job back. But we traded him and took his cap hit. That move SCREAMS confidence in our guys already at the position. Whenever it's cheaper to keep an incumbant starter, and he's cut anyway, rest assured that the solution is in house.

Prioleau will be ready to go.

Unless we want the defense to be horrible again, we have to plan to add help in the trenches. I would get help at DT, but we are going to need to address both positions over the next few years, so it wouldn't kill me if they picked at end. The worst thing we could do would be to not get any fresh blood on the DL in this draft.

Again, I wouldn't expect a big DL improvement this year because rookies tend to have minimal impact, but getting fresh blood is paramount so that in 2008 and 2009, our defense isnt still horrible.

Daniels and Wynn are all but cooked. Carter is one dimensional. Griffin may never be the player of 2004-05 again, and we don't have a good option at the 2nd DT. We could use help anywhere.

That's the state of this defense right now.

Re: Should the Redskins consider LSU Safety Laron Landry with the 6th overall pick
 

I would be much more worried about Sean Taylor being a factor in coverage this year then I would be about Prioleau and Stoutmire at that other safety.