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[QUOTE=angryssg;325440]No, no, no, no, I am merely saying that if we had a chance to get him let him compete for a starting job. If he doesnt get the job then at least we know that he adds great depth.


Call me crazy, but I value Smoot and Rogers over Springs any day of the week. That is just my opinion though, and I know that it is not a popular one.[/QUOTE]


I completely agree with the with the Rogers, Smoot statement.

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[quote=Buster;325229]What about Timmy Smith? He definitely stepped up in a big game for us and held the SB rushing record for a long time.

He ended up getting injured before even playing a full season with us and retired in 1990 as a COWBOY with 6 receptions and no carries.

Then, probably because of his time in Dallas, he became a coke-head.

What a waste of talent. Sure, he can't help injuries, but his whole life went down the toilet too.[/quote]

My soon to be 4 year old could have run for 200 yards that day.

Timmy Smith was a victim of a bad agent. Nothing more, nothing less.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;325595]My soon to be 4 year old could have run for 200 yards that day.

Timmy Smith was a victim of a bad agent. Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]

Bad agent? How do you figure?

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[quote=SmootSmack;325623]Bad agent? How do you figure?[/quote]

At the end of the '87 season his agent pushed for him to be the highest paid RB in the league. The Skins told them both to "take 5" and next thing you know he has a nasal drip problem and no job.

He still has the Super Bowl record for yards. Hail to the Redskins!

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;325636]At the end of the '87 season his agent pushed for him to be the highest paid RB in the league. The Skins told them both to "take 5" and next thing you know he has a nasal drip problem and no job.

He still has the Super Bowl record for yards. Hail to the Redskins![/QUOTE]

I don't remember that. Though it couldn't have been at the end of the '87 season because Smith played in '98 for us as well.

I do remember Gibbs saying TS was sort of lazy and his head was never really in the game...except once, Super Bowl XXII

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[quote=SmootSmack;325637]I don't remember that. Though it couldn't have been at the end of the '87 season because Smith played in '98 for us as well.

I do remember Gibbs saying TS was sort of lazy and his head was never really in the game...except once, Super Bowl XXII[/quote]
He got his head in the game because Doug Williams told him if he didn't get the job done, he would basically kick his ass. lol

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[quote=SmootSmack;325637]I don't remember that. Though it couldn't have been at the end of the '87 season because Smith played in '98 for us as well.

I do remember Gibbs saying TS was sort of lazy and his head was never really in the game...except once, Super Bowl XXII[/quote]

I don't see any stats for 98 anywhere. He was toast after 3 years.

He still has the best memory in the history of football.... (well except for Doug Williams)

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;325639]I don't see any stats for 98 anywhere. He was toast after 3 years.

He still has the best memory in the history of football.... (well except for Doug Williams)[/QUOTE]

Sorry meant 1988, not 98

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Timmy Smith was done in by the buffet table. NFL Films did a "comeback" piece on him in 1991 or so and he looked like "Big" from "Rob and Big".

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;325595]My soon to be 4 year old could have run for 200 yards that day.

Timmy Smith was a victim of a bad agent. Nothing more, nothing less.[/quote]

So the agent gave him the cocaine? Uh huh...

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[quote=Buster;326119]So the agent gave him the cocaine? Uh huh...[/quote]
No, but he did make him believe he was the second coming of Walter Payton. He gave him very shitty advice.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;326123][B]No, but he did make him believe he was the second coming of Walter Payton[/B]. He gave him very shitty advice.[/quote]

That's an agent's job...to inflate his clients' values and get them paid more than they're worth.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;324071]Have to go with my nickname. Gus had a cannon arm and did pull the team to around .500 with a relatively weak WR corp and an old man in Terry Allen at RB. IF you gave Gus the OL and the WR corp we have now, the 90's would have been nice to us. Next would be Patrick. Sorry, he got screwed and should have been given more time to prove himself. We really could have probably made the playoffs with him at QB in '04. He would have thrown more pics than Brunell, but I guarantee he would have thrown for way more TD's at the same time. Our terrific D would have nullified a lot of his picks. This season with JC at the helm will really tell us if parting with Ramsey was such a great idea. As of right now, not too many folks outside of the Redskin Nation think too highly of him(JC).[/quote]

You gotta be kidding me. Gus is a career back-up. You can get by with him for a few weeks. But not 16 games!!

Two reasons why Ramsey is not, and will never be a good NFL QB.

1. He is not an accurate enough passer to be a consistent NFL QB.

2. He can't come off to his 2nd and 3rd options.

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It will always be a case of could have, should have, and would have with Ramsey. The fact that some people still think Gus could have been something special makes me think the same will be true for Ramsey. The reality is he's just not what he all hoped he was going to be.

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[quote=Mattyk72;326218]It will always be a case of could have, should have, and would have with Ramsey. The fact that some people still think Gus could have been something special makes me think the same will be true for Ramsey. The reality is he's just not what he all hoped he was going to be.[/quote]There are NFL teams who are starting QBs worse than Patrick Ramsey (i.e. Carolina, Oakland, Buffalo, Cleveland pre-Quinn), so its not like he was a total bust.

There were just better QBs out there for the Washington Redskins, and Gibbs made sure to get a pair.