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It is ridiculous how many people I have heard stating how they don’t consider this issue a big deal (sorry Clinton P.). Says a lot about our society I guess.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330540]I especially am pulling for them now that they got embarassed by the patriots. I hate the patriots, and the chargers are a class team and orginization.

It doesn't hurt that I have a few Norv Turner autographed items and need him to be successful to cash in! :D[/QUOTE]

Nice, I hate the Patriots too. So I guess we fell the same way about a few things.(Besides Tony Stewart that is);)
I hope you get to cash in on your Turner sig's as well.:laughing-

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330543]I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully this will shed so much light on the subject and bring such stiffer laws. That the ignorant people out there that take part in dog fights will see that animal cruelty just isn’t right.[/QUOTE]

I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330550]Nice, I hate the Patriots too. So I guess we fell the same way about a few things.(Besides Tony Stewart that is);)
I hope you get to cash in on your Turner sig's as well.:laughing-[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I still need to work on you about Stewart. LOL. :D

We have actually fallen on similar sides of the argument on several occasions.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/QUOTE]


Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace

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[quote=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/quote]
Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330557]Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace[/QUOTE]

If I had a clue how to make that group profitable, then I would.
I firmly believe that God put animals on this earth for us to eat...deer included. I do not condone hunting deer if you only want his antlers. You should hunt him to eat him only.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;330561]Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.[/QUOTE]


REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?

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Couple of things:
1. I read in one of the Vick related articles that the Feds have a 95% conviction rate on their indictments. (Scooter Libby, Enron Execs - rich, powerful, connected and in jail on federal indictments).

2. The Virginia federal circuit is politely known as the "Rocket Docket" - No dicking around there. The trial will begin by December or January '08.

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[quote=jsarno;330566]REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?[/quote]
I will find a link but PETA's home head quarters is here in the Tidewater area so they make the News often. It was two worker who went to get these dogs at a shelter that was over run with dogs and they offered to help. The reason the shelter was over run was because they do not uthanize any animals. PETA offered to help and told the shelter they would find them homes and not uthanize the dogs. On the way back the workers stopped an uthanized most if not all of the dogs and dumped them in a dumpster behind a business. The business discovered the dogs and the cops came and traced it back to PETA. The two employess where charged with some type of crimes I think one was unthanizing dogs and not lic to do it. PETA head quarters acted as they had no idea it had happened but most people feel thet they did because who gave the employees the uthanization stuff and didn't they inquire to what happened to the dogs.

Just last week a PETA worker got caught stealing a hunting dog. She found the dog walking down the road and picked it up and there was no problem with that. She then removed the dogs collar and a tracking devise for locating the dog. I think a cop stop her and noticed the dog which she was trying to hide and he noticed the markings. It was the sheriffs dog and then she was asked about the dogs collar and stuff and she said that it did not have one. Well they tracked it down and found it sitting beside the locator and then found her finger prints. This one has not gone to trial and what she was doing was stealling the dog because they think hunters do not care for their dogs. Oh, they use the dogs for hunting which they also do not like.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;330455]I don't think you understood at all what GibbsisGod was trying to say. No one is discrediting the value of human life. But allegations against Vick have nothing to do with sending an army to war. It was an inappropriate and irrelevant analogy. Then your second post was about the FBI and CIA being scum. Not a good start.[/QUOTE]


its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330566]REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?[/QUOTE]

[url=http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=125329&ran=7944]ARTICLE: DEA investigating PETA over euthanasia drug training (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/url]

[url=http://www.fbresearch.org/Journalists/Releases/PeTALeadin.htm]FBR - Education about Animal Research[/url]

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[quote=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/quote]

I'm with you on PETA, I hate being on the same side as them because they are wackos and more of a political fringe group than a group that really cares for animals.

There is a group that already exists that is more mainstream and truly focus on animal well-being without being nut-jobs...The Humane Society of the U.S. They are heavily involved in the Vick issue, lobbying the NFL and Arthur Blank, (Falcons & Home Depot owner) to have Vick suspended.

[URL="http://www.hsus.org/"]The Humane Society of the United States[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/QUOTE]

I still don't think you get it. It seems like you're trying to antagonize for the sake of antagonizing.

I mean, it's like when the Redskins lose a game and everyone gets pissed we all know that grand scheme it's not a big deal when people are dying senselessly every day. But it's not relevant to the immediate discussion of the Redskins. To the immediate discussion of Vick and his alleged mistreatment of dogs and his future in the league, the AIDS epidemic in South Africa (as an example) doesn't really seem to fit.

And I still don't know what the CIA has to do with all this

And leave PSUSKINSFAN21 alone

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/quote]
Like I posted earlier you need to take your political stuff over to the parking lot as this is not the place for it. Why not start thread in the parking lot section and explain to us what the CIA did to the black panthers.