Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[QUOTE=chrisl4064;342392]this release, if true is one of the stupidest things we could have done. and i say ONE of the stupidest because i could think of a few more that i wouldnt be suprised to see.[/QUOTE]

It is true, it is now on [url=http://www.redskins.com]Washington Redskins[/url]

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=Paintrain;342370]The timing of it is curious.. Why cut him now rather than after the next game unless it was just so obvious he was not going to make the team?[/quote]Because we've seen a lot of Lemar Marshall. If we are only going to keep 6-7 LBs, and you have Godfrey now along with Sartz, Blades, Trucks, Washington, Fletcher, and Rocky Mac, and we think Godfrey is an upgrade over Marshall, then why not make it.

Now is Godfrey an upgrade over Marshall? I'd say probably, but it is pretty late here to add him and have him learn the system overnight. Though he has played for Grilliams in the past.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

This is real -- on Redskins.com.

Idiots.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

All I know is that this move is pretty inconsistent with the team's (and coach's) public stance that Lemar Marshall provides invaluable depth along the LB corps, because he's versatile and has played a number of positions.

Now all of a sudden the team has changed its mind and has deemed the depth he provided as expendable.

There had to be a catalyst for this move. Maybe it's grumbling on Marshall's part, injury, a sudden character problem, or salary cap motivation to clear room to extend Cooley. But it had to be something; the team didn't just all of a sudden change its mind on him. I find it hard to believe he was simply outplayed by Blades & Sartz; after all, Marshall was jettisoned for ANOTHER LB.

Hopefully JLC can shine some light for us.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=GTripp0012;342404]Because we've seen a lot of Lemar Marshall. If we are only going to keep 6-7 LBs, and you have Godfrey now along with Sartz, Blades, Trucks, Washington, Fletcher, and Rocky Mac, and we think Godfrey is an upgrade over Marshall, then why not make it.

Now is Godfrey an upgrade over Marshall? I'd say probably, but it is pretty late here to add him and have him learn the system overnight. Though he has played for Grilliams in the past.[/quote]


What have we seen of Godfrey to think he's an upgrade? I would think if he's an upgrade, then that places him in "starters" category. And if he's good enough to start, why has he been bouncing around the league for the past five years? Unless it's an obvious upgrade, then it's not an upgrade in my opinion. Godfrey won't even if be Skin next year...hell, he might not even make through camp.

Obviously the coaches are privy to something that we aren't as fans.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;342377]I always thought that Marshall was pretty good in coverage and sub-par in run-blocking (which isn't surprising considering he is a 230 lb. MLB).[/quote]Marshall has been downright terrible against the pass the last two seasons. Ranked 95th among LBs in pass yards against last season (9.2), 104th in 2005 (8.1).

Against the run last season, Marshall was pretty bad. He was better in 2005, but still pretty overrated. Lavar was a beast (when he played) here in 2005, and I'm guessing that some of that perception rubbed off on Lemar (Including me, I thought he was much better than he was).

His best season as a pro was that pro bowl caliber 2004 he had on the weakside.

I know he was a converted safety, but he can't cover anyone. Perhaps why he was converted?

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

Ironic that he sucked in pass coverage but lead our team in picks in 2005. Now that is irony.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;342419]Ironic that he sucked in pass coverage but lead our team in picks in 2005. Now that is irony.[/quote]

He's always gotten most of my INTs on Madden too. :D

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=12thMan;342414]What have we seen of Godfrey to think he's an upgrade? I would think if he's an upgrade, then that puts him "starters" category. And if he's good enough to start, why has he been bouncing around the league for the past five years? Unless it's an obvious upgrade, then it's not an upgrade in my opinion. Godfrey won't even if be Skin next year...hell, he might not even make through camp.

Obviously the coaches are privy to something that we aren't as fans.[/quote]I don't think he's starters material. I don't know a lot about Godfrey, but I can only see him here one season. At age 34, he provides immediate depth at all the positions Lemar did.

Either way, Godfrey probably won't be around next season, and Marshall wouldn't have been around. I think the thing that the coaching staff is "privy" to, is that Lemar Marshall has been a weak link in the defense for the last two years. Obviously, the collective of the Warpath doesn't think so, and throw me in with the "Lemar is good depth" crowd, but the stats definately support the coaching staff's position, which again, shouldn't be surprising.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

Remember kids, the NFL is in the entertainment business. Always business, never personal. Next time a player holds out don't think ill of him, he is after all taking care of his business.

I wish Marshall all the best and I'm sure he'll find a taker.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=12thMan;342414]Obviously the coaches are privy to something that we aren't as fans.[/quote]

And that's basically all we have to keep in mind here. I know the armchair GMs are pulling their hair out right now, but I doubt we'll looking back a year from now saying damn, if Marshall were here it would have been a different season.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;342419]Ironic that he sucked in pass coverage but lead our team in picks in 2005. Now that is irony.[/quote]Irony, no. Coincidence, yes.

Anyway, 4 INTs is always a good season, but wouldn't Rogers have had like 6 if he just caught the ball?

INTs aren't a good measure of pass coverage, as vital to success as they are.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

Yeah, I totally disagree that Marshall sucked in pass coverage last year. He was definitely solid; I don't care what the stats say on that.

The only conclusion I can come to is it was one of a few salary cap moves or it was his shoulder. Could Joe Salavea be next guys?

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=GTripp0012;342418]Marshall has been downright terrible against the pass the last two seasons. Ranked 95th among LBs in pass yards against last season (9.2), 104th in 2005 (8.1).

Against the run last season, Marshall was pretty bad. He was better in 2005, but still pretty overrated. Lavar was a beast (when he played) here in 2005, and I'm guessing that some of that perception rubbed off on Lemar (Including me, I thought he was much better than he was).

His best season as a pro was that pro bowl caliber 2004 he had on the weakside.

I know he was a converted safety, but he can't cover anyone. Perhaps why he was converted?[/quote]

Thank you. He was an alright player. He did an admirable job and I wish him luck on finding another NFL job, but this is not any kind of shocking news.

Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??
 

[quote=Buster;342420]He's always gotten most of my INTs on Madden too. :D[/quote]


For me it has been Sean Taylor (because I use him) But Marcus Washington gets the most by someone I am not using.