Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645579]but I've heard way to many people say, if Cooley is traded, then their not a Skins fan anymore,!![/quote]


who has said this? was it someone on this site? i have not seen or heard one person say that.

my feelings though are no way should the skins trade cooley. cooley is a better TE then davis. the skins should not trade away their most talented players. if anything ,trade davis.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645579]Yea but we can get more value out of CC by trading him, address some of those area's we need, OL and LB or RB, we can get a low first or a high second for him, plus that way there won't be any debates about who should be the starter...... and trading Cooley would be good, because there way to many CC fans than Redskins fan's on the Board, and it should be about team first, nothing wrong with loving a paticular player, but I've heard way to many people say, if Cooley is traded, then their not a Skins fan anymore, well let me let you in on a secret, if on player prevent you from being a Skin's fan, you weren't one in the beginning!!!![/quote]

Can you guarantee the pick we receive will even come close to the production Cooley has had? Are you sure of what picks we would even get? Did you read GTripps post about how having Davis AND Cooley on the field at the same time would create mismatches all over the field? Don't question someones fandom just because you don't understand something or don't agree with how they think. That's kinda retarded but...you know...if the shoe fits..

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=wolfeskins;645582]who has said this? was it someone on this site? i have not seen or heard one person say that.

my feelings though are no way should the skins trade cooley. cooley is a better TE then davis. the skins should not trade away their most talented players. if anything ,trade davis.[/quote]

Then you dont pay that much attention.

Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

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Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645611]Then you dont pay that much attention.

Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? [/quote]


Yes, I'd have to take that trade, and I really like Cooley. A 1st and a 3rd for a TE when you have a solid replacement in house is a deal you jump at, isn't it? A deal like that could help us finally get an offensive line real quick.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645611]Then you dont pay that much attention.

Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

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Chris Cooley is about the last thing I have left on this team that I enjoy, [B][U]if they trade him I don't know it would be hard to be a Redskins fan. [/U][/B]
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ok, thats one,is that it? your right, i don't pay much attention, i missed that one post.:doh:

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=wolfeskins;645625]ok, thats one,is that it? your right, i don't pay much attention, i missed that one post.:doh:[/quote]

I'm not going through every post to show you how many more, you said you never seen it........now you have!!!!! Nontheless, there is no guarentee on anything, we have value in a player to trade, then we should take advantage of that

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

It would be stupid not to consider trading Cooley with the emergence of Davis. With all the major holes in this team we can't afford to have two elite TEs. What we need are draft picks. We need help at OL, DL, CB, RB, and LB.

I do like Cooley and I don't think we HAVE to trade him. But, trading makes more sense than keeping him at this point. Davis has shown us all that he's the forreal. He deserves to be a starter. That's where the problem lies. Which one of them do we keep?

I would say that you keep Davis. He's the younger guy and has a big upside that Cooley right now. Physically, he's more athletic, faster, stronger, and appears to be a better blocker. At least that's they way I see it.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Landry44;645688]It would be stupid not to consider trading Cooley with the emergence of Davis. With all the major holes in this team we can't afford to have two elite TEs. What we need are draft picks. We need help at OL, DL, CB, RB, and LB.

I do like Cooley and I don't think we HAVE to trade him. But, trading makes more sense than keeping him at this point. Davis has shown us all that he's the forreal. He deserves to be a starter. That's where the problem lies. Which one of them do we keep?

I would say that you keep Davis. He's the younger guy and has a big upside that Cooley right now. Physically, he's more athletic, faster, stronger, and appears to be a better blocker. At least that's they way I see it.[/quote]

With the things going on, it appears as if Randle El will be gone.. Moss becoming perhaps #3 or continues to be #1 (depending on who's the head coach I guess).. Thomas is emerging but he still needs to show more - will he? Kelly, I really believe he has potentials but he seems to be coming on slow.. With no good running backs.. Davis and Cooley are our only guaranteed playmakers - they make plays.. Trading Cooley would only take away our chance to take the offense to another level..

You want more picks? Trade down..

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=GridIron26;645690]With the things going on, it appears as if Randle El will be gone.. Moss becoming perhaps #3 or continues to be #1 (depending on who's the head coach I guess).. Thomas is emerging but he still needs to show more - will he? Kelly, I really believe he has potentials but he seems to be coming on slow.. With no good running backs.. Davis and Cooley are our only guaranteed playmakers - they make plays.. Trading Cooley would only take away our chance to take the offense to another level..

You want more picks? Trade down..[/quote]

We should also strongly consider trading Cooley. We don't need two great players at the same position. One way or the other one of them will be sitting on the bench. I would rather replace a great bench warmer with a young quality OL. I don't have anything against Cooley. I think he's a great player. But we have to do what's best for the team in the long run.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Landry44;645693]We should also strongly consider trading Cooley. We don't need [B][U]two great players[/U][/B] at the same position. One way or the other one of them will be sitting on the bench. I would rather replace a great bench warmer with a young quality OL. I don't have anything against Cooley. I think he's a great player. But we have to do what's best for the team in the long run.[/quote]

cooley is great but i wouldn't call davis great yet. he still needs to prove he can sustain this level of play year after year. i say both need to be here, at least for training camp and pre season.after that, who knows.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645644]I'm not going through every post to show you how many more, you said you never seen it........now you have!!!!! Nontheless, there is no guarentee on anything, we have value in a player to trade, then we should take advantage of that[/quote]

so was that one comment "way to many" as you say? we have value in lots of players, you wanna trade away all our talent for draft picks?

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

it doesn't make a lot of sense to have 2 quality T.E's. no team would have time to get them both on the field, and be effective

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=dmek25;645738]it doesn't make a lot of sense to have 2 quality T.E's. no team would have time to get them both on the field, and be effective[/quote]

well it might be smart to see which one excells in the new offensive scheme i'm sure were gonna have. plus cooley might have a red flag on him since he's coming off an ankle injury, we may not be able to get good value for him until he proves he's back to normal. even after all that,i'd prolly still not trade him but thats just me.

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=wolfeskins;645737]so was that one comment "way to many" as you say? we have value in lots of players, you wanna trade away all our talent for draft picks?[/quote]

Damn Right! Let's say a team like the Pat's, who has a late first round pick, and will not be bringing there TE back, trade that late first rounder to us, and we get a game changer like C.J Spiller, and we pick up a stud OL and then another in the secound round.... I say that will be worth it..... even though we need OL help, RB is going to have to be addressed soon as well..... I say Davis has showed enough to garner that spot, Cooley which is a awesome weapon, would get us a good draft pick or trade..... So yea I trade it away and take my chances.......

Re: What if Fred started 16 games?
 

[quote=Nomad;645760]Damn Right! [B]Let's say a team like the Pat's, who has a late first round pick, and will not be bringing there TE back, trade that late first rounder to us,[/B] and we get a game changer like C.J Spiller, and we pick up a stud OL and then another in the secound round.... I say that will be worth it..... even though we need OL help, RB is going to have to be addressed soon as well..... I say Davis has showed enough to garner that spot, Cooley which is a awesome weapon, would get us a good draft pick or trade..... So yea I trade it away and take my chances.......[/quote]

if you seriously think the new england patriots would consider giving us a first round pick for chris cooley, then i don't know how to have a serious conversation about trading cooley cause that would never happen