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[quote=Audi;679847]Can anyone think of some notable trades in the top layer of the draft for a QB?

Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning come to mind, of course.

Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

Mark Sanchez? Jury's out on that one.[/quote]

Unless their running game falls apart, Mark Sanchez has the chance of being successful with the Jets for years to come.

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[quote=Ruhskins;679843]It sounds more like a swap, they draft Bradford, we draft Berry and then we exchange them?

Ok maybe not, this is what happened in the Rivers/Manning swap:

"The top pick of the draft hasn't been traded since 2004, when San Diego shipped Eli Manning to the New York Giants. [B]The cost was high then -- first-round pick Phillip Rivers, plus a third-rounder in 2004 and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005.[/B] You can bet that if the Rams are listening to offers for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the asking price will be similarly high. (The Redskins hold the No. 4 overall pick, the same one the Giants held in '04 when they traded for Manning.)"

[B]That's a lot of f'ing picks.[/B][/quote]

Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.

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[quote=Lotus;679860]Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.[/quote]

If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.

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I think that more likely would be that we draft Clausen, and trade Clausen, Andre Carter, LaRon, and our 6th rounder next year for Sam Bradford

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Yeah I never really considered the Rams doing something like that but you really never know. Let's just hope they draft Bradford and keep the lions taking their DT of choice and the Bucs not taking Berry. I think we'll have lots of say with our draft pick and get a lot of phone calls on April 22nd.

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[quote=Ruhskins;679861]If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.[/quote]

That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.

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While Bradford might be worthy of being picked first, he's definitely not a let's give up the farm, can't miss prospect.

I don't see the Skins parting with any future picks to move up and draft Bradford. If he doesn't fall to us, I just don't see him becoming a Redskin. But...as someone else said, you never know.

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I've read about, heard about, and thought about so many scenarios for the Redskins' draft that my head is spinning. I think I'll just forget about it for now and see what happens as the offseason unfolds.

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[quote=Lotus;679877]That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but [B]I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm[/B] to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.[/quote]

Well a lot of impatient fans would give up the farm for Bradford. I hope that our FO shows some discipline on this matter.

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[quote=Audi;679847]C
Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.
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I'll concede that point. Michael Vick really did a lot for the Falcons early in his career. However he was a little faster and D-Coordinators outside of Tampa didn't know how to gameplan for him. Once they learned how to force him to stay back and pass he became average. If Vick ever wants to be a great NFL QB he's going to have to evolve and learn to read NFL defenses, at least at a level much more advanced then he is now.

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From the Redskins Fan Mailbag. I tend to agree with how Gary sees it going down.

Question: Do you think the Redskins will trade down in the draft? We have a good quarterback in Jason Campbell and I believe Mike Shanahan is smart enough to realize that. I know the 49ers are desperately in need of a franchise quarterback and they have the 13th and 17th pick in the draft. They might be interested in trading up to get Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen with the fourth pick.

-- Andrew S.

Gary: If Bradford and left tackle Russell Okung are both off the draft board when the Redskins pick at No. 4, then I believe the Redskins will explore trading down. Multiple teams should have interest in trading up for one of the two elite defensive tackles, Gerald McCoy or Ndamukong Suh, in the draft. San Francisco would appear to be a good target as a trade partner with the Redskins, whether they want a quarterback or not. However, I’m not sure the 49ers would be willing to yield both of their first-round picks. How about one of their two first-round picks and their second-rounder, at No. 49 overall?

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[quote=53Fan;679926]From the Redskins Fan Mailbag. I tend to agree with how Gary sees it going down.

Question: Do you think the Redskins will trade down in the draft? We have a good quarterback in Jason Campbell and I believe Mike Shanahan is smart enough to realize that. I know the 49ers are desperately in need of a franchise quarterback and they have the 13th and 17th pick in the draft. They might be interested in trading up to get Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen with the fourth pick.

-- Andrew S.

Gary: If Bradford and left tackle Russell Okung are both off the draft board when the Redskins pick at No. 4, then I believe the Redskins will explore trading down. Multiple teams should have interest in trading up for one of the two elite defensive tackles, Gerald McCoy or Ndamukong Suh, in the draft. San Francisco would appear to be a good target as a trade partner with the Redskins, whether they want a quarterback or not. However, I’m not sure the 49ers would be willing to yield both of their first-round picks. [B]How about one of their two first-round picks and their second-rounder, at No. 49 overall?[/B][/quote]
This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.

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I'm just hoping we don't take a quarterback. The fact that both of them are reaches at 4 aside, both of their faces are immensely distracting. Bradford looks like he's got downs and Clausen's face is squished. that points not relevant at all, i just thought it would be worth discussion.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;679943]This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.[/quote]

SF's #13 and #49 isn't enough to justify trading them the #4 pick. I wouldn't want to trade down that far in the first round.

I might accept Cleveland's #7 pick and both of their 3rd round picks or a first and a second round pick from either Oakland (8 and 39) or Buffalo (9 and 41).

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[quote=Redskin Jim;679943]This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.[/quote]

By Bradford, you mean Okung, right?