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[quote=hooskins;787495]So any details on how the salary is spread? If its a typical skins contract its all bonus, low yearly with the salary jumping towards the end(when he can be cut). Wouldn't be opposed to that.


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Dude you need to turn off the "sent from my Droid".

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/33900/oshiomogho-atogwes-unfortunate-departure]Oshiomogho Atogwe's unfortunate exit - NFC West Blog - ESPN[/url]

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^ "He was a team player all the way." I'll take those guys all day long.

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[quote=NC_Skins;787385]I see nothing wrong with him wearing #21. I'm sorry, but it's time to move on people.[/quote]

Why don't we hand out #28, 44, 81, 7 and 33 then. C'mon, Sammy isn't around anymore either and heck, he played half a century ago. Move on!



:doh:

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Love it, despite what Kareem Moore/Drew Doughty might be able to do in theory, these two are just downright BRUTAL. Landry will get to spend 80% of his time in the box doing what he does best while Atogwe can actually succeed against the passing game.

I usually check walterfootball.com every now and then, but wow this analysis just ruined that website for me.

Taken directly from walterfootball:
[quote]I'm going to be honest. Daniel Snyder is a f***ing moron. Look, O.J. Atogwe is a really good player. But what the hell are the Redskins going to do with him? He turns 30 in June. Washington is a team in rebuilding mode. When they're finally capable of competing for a playoff spot, Atogwe will be old and ineffective.

This signing makes absolutely no sense. But then again, nothing Snyder ever does makes any sense. It's really amazing that year after year, Snyder continuously makes the mistake over and over again.[/quote]

Damn Snyder!! What are you thinking trying to improve our dreadful secondary!! Especially since we all know it was only you who made this decision!!

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[quote=IrMitchell;787516]Love it, despite what Kareem Moore/Drew Doughty might be able to do in theory, these two are just downright BRUTAL. Landry will get to spend 80% of his time in the box doing what he does best while Atogwe can actually succeed against the passing game.

I usually check walterfootball.com every now and then, but wow this analysis just ruined that website for me.

Taken directly from walterfootball:


Damn Snyder!! What are you thinking trying to improve our dreadful secondary!! Especially since we all know it was only you who made this decision!![/quote]

Note to self, walterfootball isnt worth a sh*t

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Found that out last year with their draft coverage.

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I think OJ will be an upgrade over moore/doughty/horton no doubt but right now im thinking i would have rather used that money to resign carlos. Now we have 2 probowler player/contracts in the safety position. We cant have probowl contracts for every starting position and expect to retain any depth.

I would have liked to seen us ride with moore into this next season. Yeah he looked bad at times this year, but i think in certain spots/positions we need to give our young guys a chance. The safety position opposite landry was one spot I thought we could get by with for one more year giving our young drafted players a 2nd year in the system and injury free before we put up 26mil and relegate them to permenant back up/ST positions.

im kind of a moore, carlos and doughty homer. not to say OJ wont be worth it or provide haslett with enough confidence that he can open the playbook more with not having to worry about keeping 2 guys covering deep.

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OJ's contract is pretty cap friendly, not one that's going to prevent us from keeping someone like Rogers.

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[quote=over the mountain;787545]
[B]im kind of a moore, carlos and doughty homer[/B]. not to say OJ wont be worth it or provide haslett with enough confidence that he can open the playbook more with not having to worry about keeping 2 guys covering deep.[/quote]


I think we need to remember, these guys have never won us anything. I think Reed and Moore are depth on a team, not starting material. Carlos is talented and Ive been a strong supporter, but if he is going to be a b*tch and wants crazy ass money, he can walk.

Atogwe is a major upgrade to the free position, we probably had bottom 5 play in the league at that position last year.

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I hope so. What i really hope for is that we dont sign known cowboy fan and skin hater kris jenkins. eff that fat boy with bad wheels.

Chico - yeah i agree with you that guys like moore, doughty horton make for good depth players and moore seems like a baller who can lay the wood . . . you know, thinking about it more, neither one of the 3 safeties not named landry can roam a backfield and that is a major need which OJ can fill.

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I think Moore and Doughty have proved their worth... as good backups.

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I don't know what to make of this signing yet, but so far Allen's impact on contracts has been pretty significant. He doesn't allow deals that burden the team.

So from a financial standpoint, I have confidence that this deal will be ok for us. From a roster standpoint, I'm not sure. If he returns to form & adds a lot to the TO count, it will be worth it. I could also see him playing avg. & getting too old for us. He needs to be on top of his game in 2012 for this deal to make sense, that's when the team should be expected to win.

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[quote=Mattyk;787550]I think Moore and Doughty have proved their worth... as good backups.[/quote]

Doughty is always steady as a good backup/special teamer. Moore looked so promising in limited action in 09. If his knee was a problem last year then I can accept that as an excuse for his play. His tackling, or lack thereof, was perfunctory at best though. I hope he can regain his form & play the way the coaches were raving about in camp last year. If not, based on 2010, can't argue w/the staff decision to try to upgrade.

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[quote=over the mountain;787549]I hope so. What i really hope for is that we dont sign known cowboy fan and skin hater kris jenkins. eff that fat boy with bad wheels.

Chico - yeah i agree with you that guys like moore, doughty horton make for good depth players and moore seems like a baller who can lay the wood . . . you know, thinking about it more, neither one of the 3 safeties not named landry can roam a backfield and that is a major need which OJ can fill.[/quote]

When it come to the free position IMO you need major atheletacism in your player and with any safety position as your last line of defense you need to be a good open field tackler. Moore has atheletacsim (when not dinged up and injuried) but a horrible tackler IMO. He whiffed many times last year especially on the edge in run support. Reed is a decent tackler, but lacks in atheletacism. Reed is a strong, closer to the line safety. At free he is out of position.

Atogwe is gonna take some chances and will miss, but he should cover the field much better sideline to sideline, decent tackler and another vetern presence in the secondary isnt a bad thing. Ohhhhhhh did I mention the turnovers, that is a big plus