Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/680705-2011s-top-15-college-quarterbacks-selected-in-next-years-2012-nfl-draft]Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report[/url]

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.

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[quote=Longtimefan;800165]You make excellent points Paintrain. Over the years I've witnessed some of the best QB's the NFL has seen get bounced around only to find great success in a place that fit their talents.

I saw Johnny Unitas, unwanted in Pittsburgh HOF..Jim Plunkett traded out of NE Super Bowl in LA. Rich Gannon, journeyman, Minnesota, [twice] Redskins, Super Bowl in La. Brad Johnson traded out of Minnesota to Redskins, on to Tampa Bay, Super Bowl. The list is so long it's impossible to begin to name them all. All to often some people are quick to write off players [especially QB's] when they don't have success early in their careers. Unless you're one of the exceptional ones the position can take years to master.[/quote]

But you're talking about guys who already showed they could be successful in the NFL, or a guy like Johnny Unitas who got his 2nd chance like a year into his career.

I hope that Beck is the next Trent Green. I just haven't personally seen it yet. I certainly hope that if he's our guy then I'm totally proven wrong.

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[quote=skinster;800127]THANK YOU, finally someone who shares my sentiment. I know its not gonna happen, but I hope shanny starts beck in an attempt to throw the season so we can get luck next year.[/quote]

:doh:

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=musicmaster45;800166][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/680705-2011s-top-15-college-quarterbacks-selected-in-next-years-2012-nfl-draft]Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report[/url]

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.[/quote]

Please notice that some of those guys are potential franchise QB's and we could draft them without tanking the season.

Sorry, I'll stop. But people who root for us to lose chap my hide.

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Anyone else see the Albert Haynesworth for Kyle Orton trade scenario heating up? I would have started this as a thread but i really dont know how to lol. Everyone thought the Broncos would select Marcell Dareus until earlier in the day before the draft started, thats when Von Miller's name became a more popular option. DT is possibly the Broncos weakest defensive position and they didnt take even ONE in the draft. The Redskins weakest offensive position is QB. I know Shanahan and Elway have a lil "tension" between them but if they could get a deal done, what would you think?

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A good article on Beck's response to Shanny's statements:

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2011/04/30/shanahan-endorses-beck-beck-determined-to-win-job/]Shanahan endorses Beck; Beck determined to win job - Redskins Journal[/url]

also in the comments:
Is being better than JaMarcus Russell really saying much.
Other 2007 picks include Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton and Trent Edwards.

That said Shanny did say he had Beck #1 on his board, so he rated him over Quinn and Kolb as well as Russell.

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[quote=PHazard;800174]Anyone else see the Albert Haynesworth for Kyle Orton trade scenario heating up? I would have started this as a thread but i really dont know how to lol. Everyone thought the Broncos would select Marcell Dareus until earlier in the day before the draft started, thats when Von Miller's name became a more popular option. DT is possibly the Broncos weakest defensive position and they didnt take even ONE in the draft. The Redskins weakest offensive position is QB. I know Shanahan and Elway have a lil "tension" between them but if they could get a deal done, what would you think?[/quote]


I don't like Orton, if we can say FU to "A Hole" then make the deal but I still don't think Orton is a franchise QB.

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[quote=SmootSmack;800168]But you're talking about guys who already showed they could be successful in the NFL, or a guy like Johnny Unitas who got his 2nd chance like a year into his career.

I hope that Beck is the next Trent Green. I just haven't personally seen it yet. I certainly hope that if he's our guy then I'm totally proven wrong.[/quote]

That actually makes the situation even worse SS. When you have players like the few I mentioned who showed promise early in their careers get bounced around, it's not difficult to understand the fate of guys like Beck who've been evaluated as being less talented.

I won't have a problem with whatever Shanahan decides to do and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if Beck never got an opportunity under center, nor would I be disappointed if he didn't.

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I'm not following how it makes the situation worse

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;800175]A good article on Beck's response to Shanny's statements:

[URL="http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2011/04/30/shanahan-endorses-beck-beck-determined-to-win-job/"]Shanahan endorses Beck; Beck determined to win job - Redskins Journal[/URL]

also in the comments:
Is being better than JaMarcus Russell really saying much.
Other 2007 picks include Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton and Trent Edwards.

That said Shanny did say he had Beck #1 on his board, so he rated him over Quinn and Kolb as well as Russell.[/quote]

I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. Not sure he's a franchise-type guy, but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.

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Shoulda picked Mallett.

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[quote=SmootSmack;800180]I'm not following how it makes the situation worse[/quote]

Dosen't make Beck's situation any better or worse per say but, it does make it easy to understand how/why he like others who may not have had ample opportunity in the right situation can be sometimes judged prematurily.

Hey! dont get me wrong, I'm not on some type of John Beck crusade. :)
I've only seen the guy play once in Miami and that wasn't enough for me to know much about him.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=GMScud;800182]I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. [B]Not sure he's a franchise-type guy[/B], but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.[/quote]

Agreed. But if Shannyx2 didn't like any Qb's this year, we don't need him to be a franchise QB, just someone who capably gets us to this point next year.

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[quote=Lotus;800170]Please notice that some of those guys are potential franchise QB's and we could draft them without tanking the season.

Sorry, I'll stop. But people who root for us to lose chap my hide.[/quote]

I mean really, who wants to see us lose? Andrew Luck is much better than Newton but i think he will suffer some of the fate as Newton, get sent to a terrible team and have a huge bust rate because of it.

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I know this has been said before so here's another post [url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/5/1/2147219/dont-be-surprised-if-vince-young-becomes-a-redskin]Don't be Surprised if Vince Young Becomes a Redskin - Hogs Haven[/url]