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NC_Skins 07-28-2011 02:30 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/03/18/secret-superstar-stephen-bowen-dallas-cowboys/]Secret Superstar: Stephen Bowen, Dallas Cowboys | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]

Lotus 07-28-2011 02:30 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=Ruhskins;815345]This would be a lot of money for what typically a nose tackle does (plug holes and not play every single snap). Unless we're playing a Wade Phillip type of the 3-4 with an attacking NT.[/quote]

If we play an attacking style then we have a very nice defensive front which doesn't fail to maximize Cofield at NT. Let's hope this is the plan.

SFREDSKIN 07-28-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
All in all it's just another brick in the wall!!

JoeRedskin 07-28-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
Man, look at the hate when we don't play Snyderrato Off-Season Rules.

Jenkins would have been a great pick up at a good price - certainly more than we paid for Bowen. But he was an older guy who apparently, tried to up the ante at the last minute. Anyone doubt that Cerrato would have said "How much more?" and signed him?

Instead, Allen says "We don't play those rules anymore. We have a back up plan. Thank you very much and have a nice day." Then goes and plucks a guy [I]from within our division[/I] who is 3 1/2 years younger, for less money and of whom all the insiders are saying "steal".

Wow... free agency with a cost effective plan. I can see why there is sooo much hate.

skinsfaninok 07-28-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
Jenkins?

Ruhskins 07-28-2011 02:32 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;815380]Jenkins?[/quote]

Cullen Jenkins.

Slingin Sammy 33 07-28-2011 02:32 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
Cofield and Bowen are very good signings. Keep in mind, we're only in the 3-4 base maybe 40-45%. We'll be in plenty of even fronts. I think we'll be using Cofield/Bowen/Carriker/(maybe some J. Jenkins) as our DEs in odd fronts. I think we'll see Bryant/Neild/J. Jenkins at NT.

We've gotten much younger and more athletic in our front 3. Very good thing.

If we can pick up a G and T well be in good shape.

MTK 07-28-2011 02:34 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;815379]Man, look at the hate when we don't play Snyderrato Off-Season Rules.

Jenkins would have been a great pick up at a good price - certainly more than we paid for Bowen. But he was an older guy who apparently, tried to up the ante at the last minute. Anyone doubt that Cerrato would have said "How much more?" and signed him?

Instead, Allen says "We don't play those rules anymore. We have a back up plan. Thank you very much and have a nice day." Then goes and plucks a guy [I]from within our division[/I] who is 3 1/2 years younger, for less money and of whom all the insiders are saying "steal".

Wow... free agency with a cost effective plan. I can see why there is sooo much hate.[/quote]

It's like an abusive relationship. People say they want out from the Snyderatto days, but they just can't bring themselves to move on.

diehardskin2982 07-28-2011 02:34 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
After this deal we are STILL 30 mil under the cap! Great move!

GTripp0012 07-28-2011 02:36 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;815382]Cofield and Bowen are very good signings. Keep in mind, we're only in the 3-4 base maybe 40-45%. We'll be in plenty of even fronts. I think we'll be using Cofield/Bowen/Carriker/(maybe some J. Jenkins) as our DEs in odd fronts. I think we'll see Bryant/Neild/J. Jenkins at NT.

We've gotten much younger and more athletic in our front 3. Very good thing.

If we can pick up a G and T well be in good shape.[/quote]It's more like 65%-70% isn't it? Certainly not every play, but the vast majority of first and second downs.

GTripp0012 07-28-2011 02:37 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;815385]After this deal we are STILL 30 mil under the cap! Great move![/quote]$17 ish million.

But yeah, that's still plenty of money to chase Braylon Edwards and upgrade the OL.

12thMan 07-28-2011 02:37 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
I like this approach. All of these guys could be starters or they could end up being role players playing limited snaps. Sharing the burden is a good thing. If we could land Cofield and Bowen for less than having an aging Jenkins and a worthless Haynesworth on the team, I'm all for it.

Let's roll!

SKINSnCANES 07-28-2011 02:42 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=GTripp0012;815387]$17 ish million.

But yeah, that's still plenty of money to chase Braylon Edwards and upgrade the OL.[/quote]


should be more than that right? With all the cuts, moving mcnabb, haynesworth, daniels, the DT, etc.?

JoeRedskin 07-28-2011 02:42 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=GTripp0012;815386]It's more like 65%-70% isn't it? Certainly not every play, but the vast majority of first and second downs.[/quote]

It seems to me you are unhappy that a proven, true-big-strong space eating NT has not been aquired and/or that the D-lineman that have been aquired are more of the attacking/gap shooting type and not the gap control/occupy lineman type.

I see the concern but not sure one of those was really out there except for Franklin - maybe they are just waiting for the market to cool down before going after him?

NC_Skins 07-28-2011 02:44 PM

Re: Redskins sign DE Stephen Bowen
 
[quote=GTripp0012;815387]$17 ish million.

But yeah, that's still plenty of money to chase Braylon Edwards and upgrade the OL.[/quote]


According to WP, it's 30.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-have-plenty-of-cap-space-after-trading-albert-haynesworth-cutting-veterans/2011/07/28/gIQA5NpJfI_blog.html]Redskins have plenty of cap space after trading Albert Haynesworth, cutting veterans - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]


[quote]By trading Albert Haynesworth (who carried a salary cap figure of $5.4 million) and cutting center Casey Rabach ($3 million cap figure), nose tackle Ma’ake Kemoeatu ($2.5 million) and defensive end Phillip Daniels ($1.25 million), the Redskins freed up another $12.15 million in cap room.

That meant Washington was $34.15 million under the $120 million salary cap. [/quote]


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