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SmootSmack 04-15-2012 09:35 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
People always seem to forget Clark spent two years as a Giant first.

REDSKINS4ever 04-15-2012 10:17 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;908928]There is nothing stopping them from drafting more ILBs this draft, and who better to set an example then Fletcher.

Why wait till Jun 1st?

One important aspect of signing now is that he will be at all team organized activities, and can help at a player to player level. That may be even more critical in this new CBA era with fewer team training days.



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Imagine if the Redskins drafted that kid from Arizona State named Vontaze Burfict. If London Fletcher mentored him Burfict would indeed be the best inside LB in professional football one day.

r08kessl 04-15-2012 10:45 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908939]Imagine if the Redskins drafted that kid from Arizona State named Vontaze Burfict. If London Fletcher mentored him Burfict would indeed be the best inside LB in professional football one day.[/quote]

This.

I've seen Burfict fall into the late rounds in a lot of mock drafts due to character concerns and a poor combine; however, he has fantastic game tape and the Ray Lewis comparisons alone should warrant a late draft pick. If we could pick him up in the fifth and let Fletcher mentor him we could have one of the biggest steals in this draft.

Monksdown 04-15-2012 10:47 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=r08kessl;908940]This.

I've seen Burfict fall into the late rounds in a lot of mock drafts due to character concerns and a poor combine; however, he has fantastic game tape and the Ray Lewis comparisons alone should warrant a late draft pick. If we could pick him up in the fifth and let Fletcher mentor him we could have one of the biggest steals in this draft.[/quote]

Normally when a kid is mentioned on public sports forums as being a steal, he doesnt slide. Not because you exposed his value, but because other paid scouts have already identified his adjusted(character) value.

VegasSkinsFan 04-15-2012 02:19 PM

Good teams draft great players an keep them. We are finally doing the poor mans version of that by keeping fletch.

I'd like to get to the point where we are more than the team that gives out crazy contracts or is used for leverage against the team a FA really wants to play for.

CultBrennan59 04-15-2012 03:14 PM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908939]Imagine if the Redskins drafted that kid from Arizona State named Vontaze Burfict. If London Fletcher mentored him Burfict would indeed be the best inside LB in professional football one day.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/burfict-gets-the-cold-shoulder/]Burfict gets the cold shoulder | ProFootballTalk[/url]

NC_Skins 04-15-2012 06:17 PM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908939]Imagine if the Redskins drafted that kid from Arizona State named Vontaze Burfict. If London Fletcher mentored him Burfict would indeed be the best inside LB in professional football one day.[/quote]


Hellllll no.


Kid ran over a 5.0 in the 40, AND I watched some of vids of him and he has 0 instincts as a LB. I'll be shocked if this guy gets drafted before round 5. Add this along with his crappy attitude and lack of control. No way, no how do I want this assclown on the Skins squad.

The Goat 04-15-2012 11:46 PM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;908931]People always seem to forget Clark spent two years as a Giant first.[/quote]

...wait, who wants to remember that anyway?! ;)

CultBrennan59 04-15-2012 11:55 PM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
^ Yeah I always forget clark was a Giant before a skin. Amazing how he went undrafted.

Also what is the final numbers that London got for his new deal. People here keeping blurting out different amounts, but no one has given a source as to what it actually is.

REDSKINS4ever 04-15-2012 11:58 PM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=NC_Skins;908976]Hellllll no.


Kid ran over a 5.0 in the 40, AND I watched some of vids of him and he has 0 instincts as a LB. I'll be shocked if this guy gets drafted before round 5. Add this along with his crappy attitude and lack of control. No way, no how do I want this assclown on the Skins squad.[/quote]

What needs to happen is someone like London Fletcher, Brian Orakpo, or Phillip Daniels needs to sit this kid down. Burfict probably needs an attitude adjustment. His lousy performances at the combine and his pro day surprised me. In the Pac 12 he played well against Andrew Luck, Nick Foles, and Matt Barkley. If the Redskins don't draft him, some other NFL team will. Even if he doesn't get drafted, he will sign on as a FA somewhere. There's nothing wrong with Burfict. Like all children he just needs to grow up and mature.

CultBrennan59 04-16-2012 12:21 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;909003]What needs to happen is someone like London Fletcher, Brian Orakpo, or Phillip Daniels needs to sit this kid down. Burfict probably needs an attitude adjustment. His lousy performances at the combine and his pro day surprised me. In the Pac 12 he played well against Andrew Luck, Nick Foles, and Matt Barkley. If the Redskins don't draft him, some other NFL team will. Even if he doesn't get drafted, he will sign on as a FA somewhere. There's nothing wrong with Burfict. Like all children he just needs to grow up and mature.[/quote]

I agree with you. He is 100% a headcase. Its the laziness of HC's and GM's about drafting and taking the time to train a guy, when they can find another player to spend a pick on that isn't a headcase or is easier to coach.


Vontaze has talent. Don't get me wrong. The dude can literally make Guards fly. He has the perfect NFL MLB body. He was a HIGHLY touted recruit coming out of high school, thats why everyones mentioning him. Monty Kiffin who is one of the most respected NFL Defensive Coordinator's of our time said that Vontaze will be starting sundays without a doubt.

We look like we have a great situation with London here to 'mentor' and 'tame' him, but we also have our own problems with Fred (Cheech) and Trent (Chong). Pittsburgh with Tomlin, Polamalu, Clark, Keisel, and Woodley would make it an ideal spot for Vontaze, but just like us, they have their own headcases like James Harrison and Big Ben (of old; but still). New England would be an ideal spot, but to the same token, they already have Spikes and Mayo, so theres not really a need for a 3rd ILB. And Spikes isn't exactly the most soft spoken guy out there. Then you have Baltimore. That is about the best fit I can think of. Ray Lewis can mentor anyone. Ray is on his last legs of his NFL career and Vontaze who was once considered the next Ray Lewis (some of his highlights do definitely suggest that) what is a more perfect fit that Baltimore to replace one Ray with another version of Ray. Green Bay and Chicago also seem like fits for him, but they both don't really go after the players with major past problems.

All in all, I say that the Redskins should take a chance on Vontaze if he is there in the 6th round, because after all, your draft isn't going to be perfect. You're going to have a good chunk of your draft thats going to be players that aren't going to even be in the league 2 years from now. We have wasted picks on guys we absolutely didn't need in the past. We have a need for an ILB. If he's good, keep him. If he's bad, then get rid of him, its just a 6th round pick.

Then again he could go undrafted...

REDSKINS4ever 04-16-2012 01:39 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
Burfict could end up being another Randy Moss. He may be someone who a lot of teams will pass on and then end up actually having spectacular seasons and make teams regret that they didn't draft him. I do agree that he is worth a draft choice. Somewhere between the 5th and 7th rounds.

Meks 04-16-2012 04:52 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
Finally

FRPLG 04-16-2012 09:16 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=That Guy;908913]are you kidding me? he walked because we wouldn't pay like 1.5mill or something trivial...

then we signed archuletta to an awful contract, wasted a top 10 pick on landry (and gave him a big contract), sign AO to a giant contract... and this whole time he's been playing better (for less) than any of those guys.

If you waste $100mill trying to replace a guy, it's a pretty big loss.[/quote]

He wasn't. You're over-valuing what he was worth to us at the time. What we did trying to replace him is irrelevant. No one was pitching a fit when we let him walk. And I maintain, he is a better player for them because of the defense they run and what the ask him to do. He might be a good fit now.

skinsfan69 04-16-2012 10:52 AM

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 
[quote=whistler;908926]I'm glad that all are tickled that LF is back. All I've said is that at some point the skins have to move on and find another ILB and that it would be better to do it a year too soon thatn a year too late. LF was not going to get the same money anywhere else. Why the skins didn't wait until after June 1st and not over pay is a mystery to me.[/quote]

It was the right thing to do. As others have said, he's been here day in day out, year in, year out, sets a great example and does his job. He desreved that raise in the worst way. But to me, it's awful front office work not to have someone behind a 37 year old inside linebacker.


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