[QUOTE=Mechanix544;979949]Sorry, when a rookie QB leads the league in qb rating, completion percentage, has thrown the least amount of picks vs. all other starting QB's in the entire league (with 2 of those picks being ABSOLUETLY not his fault, has rushed for almost 800 yards, has a 6.6 ypc average, has thrown over 3200 yards and prolly more because of the Dallas game, thrown for 20+ TD's and rushed for 6, and has turned in a 6 (7*) game winstreak to take our team into the playoffs with a home game, and won the division, if he does not get it, it WILL be a travesty. He still has the Dallas game to really pad his stats so that there is no doubt, but still. His worst completion %age of the year was like 57.8%. That is phenomenal.

RG3 takes this one boys. With all due respect to all other QB draft classes, this draft class could be the best of all time with Luck, RG3, Wilson and Tannehill. I know its early, but I wouldnt be shocked to find out that it was in 6 or 7 years.[/QUOTE]

Also 8 games of a passer rating over 100

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The way the NFL is though, I see Wilson getting voted as ROY only because he's currently on fire, and we seem to see the NFL talking heads focus entirely on what's currently hot, not always the body of work. I feel in regards to stats, RG3 wins hands down, but certainly it might have to do with how well these guys do in the playoffs (and yes, I'm assuming the Redskins beat the Cowboys and make it in.)

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[quote=skinsguy;980092]The way the NFL is though, I see Wilson getting voted as ROY only because he's currently on fire, and we seem to see the NFL talking heads focus entirely on what's currently hot, not always the body of work. I feel in regards to stats, RG3 wins hands down, but certainly it might have to do with how well these guys do in the playoffs (and yes, I'm assuming the Redskins beat the Cowboys and make it in.)[/quote]Yeah, Seahawks seem poised to make a serious run this time.

Last four games
SEA 23 @ CHI 17
ARI 0 @ SEA 58
SEA 50 @ BUF 17
SF 13 @ SEA 42

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I think RG3 should win it and yes probably because I am a Skins fan. If you look at the overall quality of work RG3 has played like a professional all season, while Luck and Wilson have both performed at times like rookies, in particular Luck lately. His consistent proficiency as QB sets him a part. I think the biggest knock to RG3 could be the big season AlMo is having.

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Put RG3 on the Seahawks and that's a Superbowl team

^^^ For the win.

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[quote=Kindoy;980170]Put RG3 on the Seahawks and that's a Superbowl team[/quote]

lock thread boom

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Can't be ROY without making the probowl...

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Colts have beat 2 teams with a winning record.

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LOVE IT!

[url=http://cosbysweaters.com/2012/12/26/the-official-robert-griffin-iii-themed-christmas-carol/]The Official Robert Griffin III Themed Christmas Carol - Cosby Sweaters[/url]

Does Wilson have a song? Fawk no! Let's go RGIII!

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[quote=skinsguy;980092]The way the NFL is though, I see Wilson getting voted as ROY only because he's currently on fire, and we seem to see the NFL talking heads focus entirely on what's currently hot, not always the body of work. I feel in regards to stats, RG3 wins hands down, but certainly it might have to do with how well these guys do in the playoffs (and yes, I'm assuming the Redskins beat the Cowboys and make it in.)[/quote]

I wouldn't doubt it either. He's won some big games this year against very good teams and on the road.


[quote=Kindoy;980170]Put RG3 on the Seahawks and that's a Superbowl team[/quote]


I agree with this.

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As exciting and promising a start as Indianapolis quarterback Andrew Luck has made, this award comes down to a battle between two players who haven't just reinvigorated their teams but have done so in a way that is directly attributable to the consistent excellence of their play. Luck has won some close encounters, but some have been due to his poor play to get the Colts into that position. Luck has had some terrific fourth quarters, but his overall play has been a roller-coaster ride. To me, this award is so closely balanced between Washington quarterback Robert Griffin III and Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson. How can we split these two outstanding players? I'll attempt to by going over key factors that determine a player's and team's success.

Supporting Cast: On the offensive line, Washington has an edge. This has been an area of strength for the Redskins, with only Tyler Polumbus at right tackle providing a significant weakness for defenses to target. Left tackle Trent Williams' Pro Bowl place was well-deserved, and center Will Montgomery was unlucky to miss out.

In Russell Okung and Max Unger, the Seahawks have players performing equally well at identical positions (LT and C) but the rest of the line has been far more fluid. While the play of Alfred Morris and Marshawn Lynch means support at running back is somewhat of a wash, pass-catcher injuries to Fred Davis and Pierre Garcon left huge holes and RGIII had to compensate, finding unexpected help when needed from players like Aldrick Robinson and Logan Paulsen. The Seattle receivers have rounded into a sure-handed group; the drop rate of both Golden Tate and Sidney Rice puts them in the top 15 in the league. Edge: RGIII -- his rotating receiving options means he's had the biggest problems and puts him slightly ahead here.

Consistency: Throughout the year Griffin is the only quarterback ProFootballFocus has not graded negatively in a single game; he has been the model of stability from his very first game against the Saints. He's never thrown more than one interception in a game (and only five total) and even in his worst performance (at the Steelers) never looked completely out of whack. In contrast, Wilson started shakily but has improved almost week by week. Eight of his 10 interceptions came in the first half of the season, and his Week 16 performance was his best, clinically dissecting the 49ers defense, one of the NFL's top two. Edge: RGIII.

Offensive Tailoring: From the very first series of Week 1 against New Orleans it was obvious that the Redskins had reconstructed their entire offense to fit the skills of their new passer. Griffin managed initially easy throws interspersed with read-option runs, then deeper play-action passes as the defenses bit up on the short stuff. Credit to Griffin for making the whole thing work superbly.

But Wilson is displaying a much fuller repertoire. Wilson is throwing deep (20 yards plus) the fourth-most in the league, with Griffin the second-least, and Griffin has thrown twice as many screens as his counterpart. Wilson's passing "grid" is significantly more balanced, and he utilizes the deep ball and throws outside the numbers far more often. Edge: Wilson -- He is making every throw, even the difficult ones, with a high degree of efficiency.

Injury Concerns: We all know Griffin has missed playing time, so maybe this is a slam dunk, but that would miss the point of just how good Wilson is when it comes to scrambling without taking undue risks. There's no doubt both players are equally fearless, but when Wilson scrambles he rarely takes big hits; he's incredibly elusive and has already avoided eight tackles on 45 scrambles compared to Griffin's three on 41. As a result he's also fumbled five fewer times than RGIII. Edge: Wilson.

In summary: Very tough call. After Week 15, PFF had Griffin just ahead and in our Pro Bowl squad too. After last week, Wilson just squeaked ahead of his rival. When pushed, my choice would be Wilson because I believe he has been less a product of the system and hence more difficult to take away. Regardless, I don't think there is a wrong answer between the two.

Read More: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20121231/peter-king-mmqb-week-17/#ixzz2GeK6fs79]Adrian Peterson, Surprising Redskins, Wild-Card preview; more Week 17 thoughts - NFL - Peter King - SI.com[/url]

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What a setup for this weekend's wildcard game. Still want to bask in the NFCE championship, but the matchup should be excellent all around.

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I think ROY might come down next week to whoever advances their team.

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Should this games winner be ROY? What if RG3 throws 3 TDs 1 pick and we lose and Russell throws 1 td and 3 picks and he wins? The debate will continue. Gotta give it to RG3 though. I think if Flynn plays for seattle that team still makes the playoffs; Great defense.