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Giantone 02-19-2013 04:45 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=firstdown;994695]your post about kevlar suit (most people would assume bullet proof vest) was post #72 my post about not using an ar was #76.[/quote]



#81

Alvin Walton 02-20-2013 07:46 AM

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[quote=RedskinRat;994706]Here we go....

Senate Bill 5737, states in part that:

[I]In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.[/I]

Chip, chip, chip......[/quote]

Sheriffs in your bedroom.....wonderful.....
Great example of Big Brother.
I really hate timid people and all the new dumb ass laws they think up.

Chico23231 02-20-2013 09:07 AM

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[quote=RedskinRat;994706]Here we go....

Senate Bill 5737, states in part that:

[I]In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.[/I]

Chip, chip, chip......[/quote]

that's insane. conduct an inspection?

firstdown 02-20-2013 10:20 AM

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[quote=Giantone;994722]#81[/quote]

You lost me. He didn't have one on.

RedskinRat 02-20-2013 10:52 AM

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Here's how I imagine this 'gun control' playing out:

1) Increase the tax of ammunition to the point where it's too expensive for average people to buy.

2) Introduce increasingly invasive 'checks' on gun owners that make it a complete pain in the arse to own a firearm.

3) Permit owners to store guns at a licensed facility (like a gun range) so as to avoid invasive checks.

4) Facilities are closed down and/or all firearms confiscated.

firstdown 02-20-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=RedskinRat;994846]Here's how I imagine this 'gun control' playing out:

1) Increase the tax of ammunition to the point where it's too expensive for average people to buy.

2) Introduce increasingly invasive 'checks' on gun owners that make it a complete pain in the arse to own a firearm.

3) Permit owners to store guns at a licensed facility (like a gun range) so as to avoid invasive checks.

4) Facilities are closed down and/or all firearms confiscated.[/quote]

Yea right. You forgot that they would have to go door to door to collect these guns. Also if you tax amunition too much it will just go under ground.

RedskinRat 02-20-2013 01:52 PM

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[quote=firstdown;994867]Yea right. You forgot that they would have to go door to door to collect these guns.[/quote]

Already covered.

[I]3) Permit owners to store guns at a licensed facility (like a gun range) so as to avoid invasive checks.[/I]

When I say 'permit' I actually mean coerce or subtly force.

Alvin Walton 02-20-2013 02:54 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=RedskinRat;994846]Here's how I imagine this 'gun control' playing out:

1) Increase the tax of ammunition to the point where it's too expensive for average people to buy.

2) Introduce increasingly invasive 'checks' on gun owners that make it a complete pain in the arse to own a firearm.

3) Permit owners to store guns at a licensed facility (like a gun range) so as to avoid invasive checks.

4) Facilities are closed down and/or all firearms confiscated.[/quote]

None of those will ever happen.
#2 and #4 are fairly ridiculous.

firstdown 02-22-2013 11:29 AM

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[quote=RedskinRat;994872]Already covered.

[I]3) Permit owners to store guns at a licensed facility (like a gun range) so as to avoid invasive checks.[/I]

When I say 'permit' I actually mean coerce or subtly force.[/quote]

Still would not happen. To many people feel its their right to own a gun and would be to periniod (sp) to turn them in or check them in for any reason. One of the main reason people do not want background checks is it lets the gov. know your purchasing a gun that they could trace.

Daseal 02-22-2013 12:29 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=firstdown;995080]Still would not happen. To many people feel its their right to own a gun and would be to periniod (sp) to turn them in or check them in for any reason. One of the main reason people do not want background checks is it lets the gov. know your purchasing a gun that they could trace.[/quote]

Those are the exact people I don't want to have guns. Gun ownership is not a right, a right is something that cannot be taken away -- guns are a privilege. Otherwise everyone regardless of felon status or mental health status would have the right to own one. If you're not willing to submit to a background check, the punishment should be steep.

Alvin Walton 02-22-2013 01:52 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=Daseal;995092]Those are the exact people I don't want to have guns. Gun ownership is not a right, a right is something that cannot be taken away -- guns are a privilege. Otherwise everyone regardless of felon status or mental health status would have the right to own one. If you're not willing to submit to a background check, the punishment should be steep.[/quote]

I'm all for background checks.....in todays modern society it has become necessary.
But you're wrong about the privelege part.
Its a right.

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States [COLOR="Red"]Bill of Rights [/COLOR]that protects [COLOR="Red"]the right [/COLOR]of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the[COLOR="Red"] Bill of Rights[/COLOR]. The Supreme Court of the United States first ruled in 2008 that the Second Amendment protects an [COLOR="Red"]individual right[/COLOR] to possess and carry firearms.

CRedskinsRule 02-22-2013 03:41 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
It's a right, that comes with a heavy responsibility.

Alvin Walton 02-22-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;995126]It's a right, that comes with a heavy responsibility.[/quote]

werd

Giantone 02-22-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong
 
[quote=Daseal;995092]Those are the exact people I don't want to have guns. Gun ownership is not a right, a right is something that cannot be taken away -- guns are a privilege. Otherwise everyone regardless of felon status or mental health status would have the right to own one. If you're not willing to submit to a background check, the punishment should be steep.[/quote]


I understand how you feel but it is a "right" gauranteed by the Constitution but as I have said before it can't go unchecked.You have the right as all Americans to "Free Speach" yet the Surprem Court says it is not your right to scream "fire" in a crowded movie thearter.As always there must be checks and balances on everything,no way the founders of this country would sit back and justify the murder of 20 children it is the people (NRA) that believe that crap that scare me,they are not responsible gun owners.

Giantone 02-22-2013 07:27 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;995126]It's a right, that comes with a heavy responsibility.[/quote]

Very!


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