No I haven't forgot cam, I would still take him over many QBs including Kaep and Wilson, just wait and see who ends up better.

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[url=http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-718-Jaws-Shocks-By-Ranking-Joe-Flacco-Above-Drew-Brees/10576e7d-1a39-4f7f-814e-56cabb317189]Late For Work 7/18: Jaws Shocks By Ranking Joe Flacco Above Drew Brees[/url]


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Flacco over Brees? See this is the shit I'm talking about why I feel Jaws "lists" are so full of shit.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1015962][url=http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-718-Jaws-Shocks-By-Ranking-Joe-Flacco-Above-Drew-Brees/10576e7d-1a39-4f7f-814e-56cabb317189]Late For Work 7/18: Jaws Shocks By Ranking Joe Flacco Above Drew Brees[/url]


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Flacco over Brees? See this is the shit I'm talking about the why I feel Jaws "lists" are so full of shit.[/quote]

Wow, Jaws just took a big hit in my eyes. Not really killing Flacco here but Brees is clearly the better QB in terms of production, accuracy, leadership, pretty much everything you want from a QB.. Even Flacco had to be thinking, 'really Jaws?'

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yeah this pretty much does it for this list... Flacco over Brees? CMON MAN

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1015966]yeah this pretty much does it for this list... Flacco over Brees? CMON MAN[/quote]Agreed. I think it's debatable who's better between eli and flacco, but including Drew Brees there's no comparison. Flaccos above average and deserves some big contract, but he's definitely not elite.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1015962][url=http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-718-Jaws-Shocks-By-Ranking-Joe-Flacco-Above-Drew-Brees/10576e7d-1a39-4f7f-814e-56cabb317189]Late For Work 7/18: Jaws Shocks By Ranking Joe Flacco Above Drew Brees[/url]


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Flacco over Brees? See this is the shit I'm talking about why I feel Jaws "lists" are so full of shit.[/quote]

what a f*cking joke. done with jaws

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If you flip flop Matt Ryan with Drew Brees, then Jaws and I would have the same top 5 QBs. But we don't and this is why I don't like Jaws (picking Flacco and Ryan before Brees).

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Which current QBs do you guys think are elite? I realize what is "elite" and whom is entirely subjective.

My list is (in no particular order inside category):

ELITE: Peyton, Brady, Rodgers

ELITE IF THEY KEEP GOING: Newton, RGIII, Kaep, RW, Luck.

NOT QUITE ELITE: Big Ben, Brees, Rivers

NOT ELITE BUT VERY GOOD: Flacco, Eli, Ryan, Romo, Cutler, Stafford, Dalton

EVERYBODY ELSE

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Brees is elite, the guy puts up monster numbers.

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Elites are basically quarterbacks that will always put up big numbers and put your team in a position to win games, basically the 4 quarterbacks that are in every persons top 5:
Tom Brady
Aaron Rogers
Peyton manning
Drew Brees

The folks that rotate for the 5th spot (basically the qbs that you can argue for and against): Eli, Ryan, flacco and Big Ben.

Everyone else still has a lot to prove or has just one good season(rookies) and just need to show more consistency.

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[quote=Mattyk;1015996]Brees is elite, the guy puts up monster numbers.[/quote]

He also plays in a QB friendly system. No question, Brees is a great QB. I wonder if Flacco was in Peyton's offense would he put up similar numbers. Flacco can certainly make all the throws, and can perhaps makes some that Brees can't.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1016000]He also plays in a QB friendly system. No question, Brees is a great QB. I wonder if Flacco was in Peyton's offense would he put up similar numbers. Flacco can certainly make all the throws, and can perhaps makes some that Brees can't.[/quote]I'm taking MattyK's words to heart that Brees is elite. IMO he makes better and quicker reads than Flacco. I guess one reason I discount Brees is I consider him truly benefiting from being a "dome QB". I think Brees gets more of a pass on that than Peyton and others in that regard, SMH.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1016001]I'm taking MattyK's words to heart that Brees is elite. IMO he makes better and quicker reads than Flacco. I guess one reason I discount Brees is I consider him truly benefiting from being a "dome QB". I think Brees gets more of a pass on that than Peyton and others in that regard, SMH.[/quote]

I agree there...he seems to play faster than Flacco.

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Breesus elevates the play of his teammates in a way that Flacco does not. And I like Flacco.

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the numbers Brees has put up the last 2 season are incredible. Lead all QBs in yardage while breaking the all time season yardage mark and in touchdowns.

So tell me again how Flacco jumps Brees this year? Dude is gettin Sean Payton back with a massive chip on his shoulder. NFC South is gonna be fun to watch this year, I think the Saints rebound to win it.

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