Guys NE has won 3 SBs and been to 5 under Brady , give it a rest . All they do is win refs blah blah they got robbed against Car and NYJ also so it's even

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047008]I don't hate Wilson I actually like him but he's not a top 5 QB and to say he's already better than luck and Griffin is premature , when u never have to worry about carrying your team every week it's a lot easier to look great.[/quote]

So right now who would you say is the best out of the three? For me it is Wilson because of his statistics, watching him play, and his performance when his team needs a play.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047012]Guys NE has won 3 SBs and been to 5 under Brady , give it a rest . All they do is win refs blah blah they got robbed against Car and NYJ also so it's even[/quote]

I'm entitled to my opinion as you are. Despite being one of the best coaches in this era, Belichick is a classless whining prick. Maybe I'm spoiled on how a winning coach should carry themselves being a fan of Joe Gibbs (during his first tenure).

Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047015]Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though[/quote]

I think any decent QB can win Seattle's defense, running game, and home field advantage. But I do agree that Luck is prob the best out of that trio.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1047020]I think any decent QB can win Seattle's defense, running game, and home field advantage. But I do agree that Luck is prob the best out of that trio.[/QUOTE]

I just think Griffin would look just as good in Seattle

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047015]Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though[/quote]

I would have understood Luck until his last 5 performances. I would have still disagreed but it was debatable. Now for the past month he has looked pretty bad. Even against Cincy he didn't look good and only piled on the stats toward the end, similar to RG3 against Philly. Luck has played poorly and gotten blown out three times in 5 games, while Wilson has looked exceptional. Hell Luck is just lucky his team played Tennessee twice, and one of those Tennessee games he threw three picks and still won. I can make the case the Colts are helping carry Luck to wins. Wilson has Less picks, more TD passes, Luck averages only 10 more yards a game passing, and Wilson has the wins going for him as well. Not sure what else he needs to do. But it is an opinion.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047026]I just think Griffin would look just as good in Seattle[/quote]

Not this year. He has overthrown so many passes this year, maybe next year.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047027]I would have understood Luck until his last 5 performances. I would have still disagreed but it was debatable. Now for the past month he has looked pretty bad. Even against Cincy he didn't look good and only piled on the stats toward the end, similar to RG3 against Philly. Luck has played poorly and gotten blown out three times in 5 games, while Wilson has looked exceptional. Hell Luck is just lucky his team played Tennessee twice, and one of those Tennessee games he threw three picks and still won. I can make the case the Colts are helping carry Luck to wins. Wilson has Less picks, more TD passes, Luck averages only 10 more yards a game passing, and Wilson has the wins going for him as well. Not sure what else he needs to do. But it is an opinion.[/QUOTE]

O I don't think Luck is elite yet either but just saying he doesn't have a Great team around him like Seattle.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047031]O I don't think Luck is elite yet either but just saying he doesn't have a Great team around him like Seattle.[/quote]

So it would be similar to Manning vs. Brady then. Like I said before there is too much in Wilson's favor to put any young QB ahead of him.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047032]So it would be similar to Manning vs. Brady then. Like I said before there is too much in Wilson's favor to put any young QB ahead of him.[/QUOTE]

Saying Wilson is Brady and luck is manning after 2 years is way out there my man .

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047034]Saying Wilson is Brady and luck is manning after 2 years is way out there my man .[/quote]

I am saying the debate is similar, people that think Manning is better than Brady believe Brady was more successful because of the team, but Manning was actually better he just didn't have the supporting cast.

I am in no way saying those two groups of QBs are comparable.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047036]I am saying the debate is similar, people that think Manning is better than Brady believe Brady was more successful because of the team, but Manning was actually better he just didn't have the supporting cast.

I am in no way saying those two groups of QBs are comparable.[/QUOTE]

O ok yeah I see what your saying. I just hope Griffin is back to a baller next year

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Interesting to see how Carolina will respond being down in the road in a playoff atmosphere. This is exactly the situation I think they can't overcome, let's see how they play.