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[quote=ethat001;1088557]Positives: Most of the tough part of initial schedule is over. [B]Of the next 5 games, we have Tennessee, Minnesota and Tampa Bay (combined record of 4-11). Really optimistically, if we do what we should & win all of those[/B], and get really lucky & win against either Dallas or Arizona (??) -- we could be 5-5 in Week 12.

Negatives: After that point, we'd have 6 really tough games down the stretch (SF,Colts,STL,NYG,PHI,DAL)[/quote]

Surely you jest. I don't think there's anybody that we "should" beat. I'd bet there are fans on those teams' websites saying the same thing about us, i.e., "we should beat the Redskins". And they would be right, too. Yes, those teams are very beatable and so are we! We are not a level above those teams; we are smack in the middle of that class of teams.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1088554]YES! The cap penalty is a killer. 36 million worth of talent isn't going to appear as soon as it's lifted.[/quote]Yeah, Mara and Lurie and the other owners, really screwed us. Cheating m-f'ers.

As far as the Haynesworth contract goes, Vinny Cerratto really screwed us over on that too. Wonder if that d-bag knew he would be gone, by the time that contract really bit us in the ***.

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The Washington Post believes the likelihood of contract-year OLB Brian Orakpo getting a big pay day from the Redskins is dwindling.

Orakpo, playing on the $11.455 million franchise tag, has just half a sack through five games, and has graded out as a bottom-11 pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker at Pro Football Focus. The Redskins could choose to allocate that money elsewhere in 2015 and pay OLB Ryan Kerrigan handsomely while developing second-round rookie Trent Murphy as Orakpo's heir.

rotoworld

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1088606]The Washington Post believes the likelihood of contract-year OLB Brian Orakpo getting a big pay day from the Redskins is dwindling.



Orakpo, playing on the $11.455 million franchise tag, has just half a sack through five games, and has graded out as a bottom-11 pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker at Pro Football Focus. The Redskins could choose to allocate that money elsewhere in 2015 and pay OLB Ryan Kerrigan handsomely while developing second-round rookie Trent Murphy as Orakpo's heir.



rotoworld[/QUOTE]


Yeah he's really going to have to get on a big tear to get a new deal deal here.

Meanwhile Kerrigan is proving to be the man.

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[quote=DirtBagZ;1088565]Yeah, we've been down this road just like a Thursday night game against the Vikings was supposed to be a winable game yet they got dominated, and the Vikes second string TE looked like a Hall of Famer. Not buying it, this is the same old Skins and another 10+ lose season.[/quote]

Agreed. I love seeing how fans are predicting "certain" wins are so sure of this team. This team has won what, one game in the last 13? And that win was over a woeful Jacksonville team. Suddenly they can go 5-5 down the stretch or whatever?

No wins on this schedule are a gimme for this team, not with their talent or attitude for sure.

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[quote=Chico23231;1088606]The Washington Post believes the likelihood of contract-year OLB Brian Orakpo getting a big pay day from the Redskins is dwindling.

Orakpo, playing on the $11.455 million franchise tag, has just half a sack through five games, and has graded out as a bottom-11 pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker at Pro Football Focus. [B]The Redskins could choose to allocate that money elsewhere in 2015 and pay OLB Ryan Kerrigan handsomely while developing second-round rookie Trent Murphy as Orakpo's heir. [/B]

rotoworld[/quote]

It looks like Rotoworld broke the code. Orakpo is not going to get a big FA contract from the Skins or anyone else. He has peaked as an NFL player.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1088610]It looks like Rotoworld broke the code. Orakpo is not going to get a big FA contract from the Skins or anyone else. He has peaked as an NFL player.[/QUOTE]


Oh someone will pay him. Maybe not what he wants, but he'll get paid.

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Safety Ryan Clark: "Guys weren't content with losing, but they were excited that they fought."

As I interpret this, with our moral victory against Seattle, that improves our season record 2-0 in the mythical moral victory standings. We now have moral victories over Philly and Seattle. I predict yet another moral victory over Arizona which will make our moral victory record against good teams 3-0.

I think we fans should be as excited as the players are about our team having so much fight in them.

Or, we could take a negative approach and say that the players don't even buy into the goal, which is winning the game. If some of the key the players think it's rewarding just to appear to be competitive, then I don't know what the coaches can do to make things better.

Re: Skins vs Seasquawks Positive and Negatives
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1088624]Safety Ryan Clark: "Guys weren't content with losing, but they were excited that they fought."

As I interpret this, with our moral victory against Seattle, that improves our season record 2-0 in the mythical moral victory standings. We now have moral victories over Philly and Seattle. I predict yet another moral victory over Arizona which will make our moral victory record against good teams 3-0.

I think we fans should be as excited as the players are about our team having so much fight in them.

Or, we could take a negative approach and say that the players don't even buy into the goal, which is winning the game. If some of the key the players think it's rewarding just to appear to be competitive, then I don't know what the coaches can do to make things better.[/quote]

Good post.

Fuck this team. I am suppose to give a shit about a team that doesn't even give a shit about themselves. Fuck them.

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[quote=mredskins;1088625]Good post.

Fuck this team. I am suppose to give a shit about a team that doesn't even give a shit about themselves. Fuck them.[/quote]

That's how I feel. Why should I care about the team when the folks on the field care about nothing but the after party?

This team will not win until it has more leaders who hate losing.

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Very troubled by the apparent indifference to losing among some players, although I cannot believe that it is pervasive through the locker room. You don't get to be good enough to play in the NFL without a lot of sacrifice and a real competitive streak. That isn't to say that folks can't get complacent with the "hey, I am a professional getting a paycheck" mentality. But there are some guys I cannot imagine bieing OK with losing.

I had a lacrosse coach years ago that sat some starters when he thought there was some of this crap seeping into the locker room culture (our team was not competitive in more games than I care to recall); it wouldn't break my heart of Gruden did too.

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that great quote from lombardi comes to mind.

i dont mind the loose locker room after a loss. its not the cause of our problems, its just a symptom.

i dont blame trent or garcon or anyone else who has been here to become immune from losing.

we lose and we lose well and often damnit.

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[quote=over the mountain;1088632]that great quote from lombardi comes to mind.

i dont mind the loose locker room after a loss. its not the cause of our problems, its just a symptom.

i dont blame trent or garcon or anyone else who has been here to become immune from losing.

we lose and we lose well and often damnit.[/quote]

Didn't Lombardi also say, "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser"? Well....

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[quote=SirLK26;1088533]Just embarrassing that we let them score on a big play, Seattle gets penalized for something that really had no effect, and then we let them go right down and score again.

But this game was against one of the best teams in the league. Any positives we can get out of this game are positives indeed. Probably the most obvious one is that Cousins protected the football against a great defense.[/quote]I love that we lined up DJax on Sherman's side, and exploited that big mouth on a couple of occasions. Eddie Royal and the Chargers showed that a big corner like Sherman lacks the quickness to lock down very fast/quick receivers, and I'm glad that Gruden and Cousins didn't shy away from throwing the ball to the right side of the field.

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[quote=Lotus;1088628]That's how I feel. Why should I care about the team when the folks on the field care about nothing but the after party?

This team will not win until it has more leaders who hate losing.[/quote]

With rare exception, players don't like losing. But they have to move quickly on to the next game