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[quote=mbedner3420;1102693]Disagree. He's absolutely terrible.[/quote]

He's not bad. He's just not Kerrigan.

Plenty of time for him to develop into that though. I think he has upside still.

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[quote=Mattyk;1102695]Guess you didn't watch him too much?

[url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/redskins-rookie-trent-murphy/]Rookie Recap: Trent Murphy - 2.5 sacks, 6 hits, 15 hurries[/url][/quote]

I watched him enough to see him completely botch angles and get juked out by stationary buc tackles.

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I really think we should draft best available safety. But we need sleeper free agency, address the oline there with proven talent. No luavos. We sucked bad, now we finally have a top pick. Lets stop trading things please. Just let it all happen.

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Also, if we are using those particular stats as metrics to justify whether a player is good or not, then we are stacked at Strong Safety! Meriweather had three sacks!

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[quote=mbedner3420;1102701]Also, if we are using those particular stats as metrics to justify whether a player is good or not, then we are stacked at Strong Safety! Meriweather had three sacks![/quote]

I'm not even looking at stats. There's enough tape to show he's anything but terrible.

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[quote=Mattyk;1102702]I'm not even looking at stats. There's enough tape to show he's anything but terrible.[/quote]

Wait, what? Your justification for why he is good is based on an article that delves into those stats.

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[quote=Chico23231;1102671]If people want to watch the 2 qbs worth drafting in the first, tune in today. Oregon and FSU playing today. Marcus is gonna play a real defense today, not that pac 10 garbage[/quote]

I am only seeing one QB worth drafting in the first in that matchup

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Murphy was BEAST against the run. Giving up on him after ONE SEASON is very Redskins-fan of us. He was great holding the edge. I don't remember Orakpo dominating his first year except against that Raiders 5th string tackle. Same with Kerrigan.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1102705]Murphy was BEAST against the run. Giving up on him after ONE SEASON is very Redskins-fan of us. He was great holding the edge. I don't remember Orakpo dominating his first year except against that Raiders 5th string tackle. Same with Kerrigan.[/quote]

Orakpo had 11 sacks his first year (7 without those four from Oakland). Kerrigan had 7.5 sacks.

I'm glad Murphy is good against the run, but he was brought here to be a pass rusher, and he doesn't seem to rush the passer very well.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1102705]Murphy was BEAST against the run. Giving up on him after ONE SEASON is very Redskins-fan of us. He was great holding the edge. I don't remember Orakpo dominating his first year except against that Raiders 5th string tackle. Same with Kerrigan.[/quote]

Yes he is superb against the run, he can be coached up to rush the passer and adding a good D lineman or 2 that can collapse the pocket from within will only help.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1102706]Orakpo had 11 sacks his first year (7 without those four from Oakland). Kerrigan had 7.5 sacks.

I'm glad Murphy is good against the run, but he was brought here to be a pass rusher, and he doesn't seem to rush the passer very well.[/quote]

He was brought in as a situational pass rusher who didn't start all 16 games like Kerrigan and Rak did their rookie seasons

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[quote=Mattyk;1102695]Guess you didn't watch him too much?

[url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/redskins-rookie-trent-murphy/]Rookie Recap: Trent Murphy - 2.5 sacks, 6 hits, 15 hurries[/url][/quote]

Play 10, I'm still mad about that no call holding in the end zone against the cowsh*ts.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1102708]He was brought in as a situational pass rusher who didn't start all 16 games like Kerrigan and Raj did their rookie seasons[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1102703]Wait, what? Your justification for why he is good is based on an article that delves into those stats.[/quote]

The breakdown I posted goes deeper than stats.

But if stats are what you're hung up on check his numbers after week 8.

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Mariota vs Winston going on, I like Mariota.