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So when was the last Haynesworth-like deal that this team had in free agency? I mean is that why people are so afraid of free agency?

Adding a starter-caliber player to the offensive line, for example, doesn't equate a trip to the playoffs nor does it fix all the problems this team has. But what it can do is to improve the offensive line enough to help your struggling QB.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1106207]So, lets say we sign nobody of note. No big money spent except to lock up Kerrigan and T. Williams. Lots of cuts, lots of no-names signed. A clear "We are cleaning the cupboard and starting over" type of offseason.

How much bitching will ensue? Who would have a problem with that?[/quote]

To a point I wouldn't mind, but you can't just cut everybody who "sucks". Doing that would unnecessarily put us deeper in the hole. Chester, Bowen, and Clark obviously need to go. Guys like Meriweather, Lavuao, and Porter can still help.

Re: 2015 Free Agents
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1106207]So, lets say we sign nobody of note. No big money spent except to lock up Kerrigan and T. Williams. Lots of cuts, lots of no-names signed. A clear "We are cleaning the cupboard and starting over" type of offseason.

How much bitching will ensue? Who would have a problem with that?[/quote]

I would like that just depends on who we cut.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1106222]So when was the last Haynesworth-like deal that this team had in free agency? I mean is that why people are so afraid of free agency?

Adding a starter-caliber player to the offensive line, for example, doesn't equate a trip to the playoffs nor does it fix all the problems this team has. But what it can do is to improve the offensive line enough to help your struggling QB.[/quote]

I agree. If Baluga or Iupati can be had for a reasonable price and they fit what Gruden wants, fine. Good additions both.

At the same time, I am more concerned that the draft well. Anyone we sign in FA now is really a band aid as we transition to the Scot McC era. It took four years for SF to become a consistent contender. Even if these guys are 26 out of their first K, they are just gonna be stop gaps as we, hopefully, build for the long term.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1106222][B]So when was the last Haynesworth-like deal that this team had in free agency? I mean is that why people are so afraid of free agency?
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Adding a starter-caliber player to the offensive line, for example, doesn't equate a trip to the playoffs nor does it fix all the problems this team has. But what it can do is to improve the offensive line enough to help your struggling QB.[/quote]

No. It's because free agency rarely works. You rarely get the same player that you think you're getting, for whatever reason. There are numerous examples all around the league and on the Redskins roster.

I'd probably pass on Iupati. He's going to be too expensive. I'd hope that they pencil in Long at guard and draft a starting RT.

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I hope we sign no BIG name's during FA, i will take the lumps building thru the draft.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1106240]I hope we sign no BIG name's during FA, i will take the lumps building thru the draft.[/quote]

This....

Re: 2015 Free Agents
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1106239]No. It's because free agency rarely works. You rarely get the same player that you think you're getting, for whatever reason. There are numerous examples all around the league and on the Redskins roster.

I'd probably pass on Iupati. He's going to be too expensive. I'd hope that they pencil in Long at guard and draft a starting RT.[/quote]

Spencer Long? The guy we drafted last year that wasn't good enough to play, let alone start, this year? You want him "penciled in?"

WHAT gives you any indication he should be an NFL starter for a QB who is currently struggling????????

I'm being totally serious also. If you can provide me with ANY credible reason to start this guy let me hear it, otherwise all this lobbying for Long needs to stop.

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We do need to chill in free agency. We just swiped djax last year. If its not a free agent olineman which in that case id take best available ready to play lg, rg, or rt. No luavos lol what a joke. If not oline a safety but thats the position i want us to take our first pick with.

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I take that slightly back. I wouldnt mind a pick up here and there after looking at that list. We were so bad. Oline / defense. Oline / defense. All we need fellas lets go

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It's funny how some people say NO free agents but you look at the Seahawks who signed both Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril in free agency, it's about being smart and blending the draft with FA.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1106312]It's funny how some people say NO free agents but you look at the Seahawks who signed both Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril in free agency, it's about being smart and blending the draft with FA.[/quote]

Can't compare us to the Seahawks who added theyre final pieces on defense thru FA. They have 4 elite dbs bro.... 4. Then up front Wagner.. two you named. And tons of role players even theyre nickel Lane is decent.. we have biggers...

But anyway.. im not saying no free agents. Im saying Oline in free agency. One other piece front office likes and that's it. Watch were gonna take it easy youll see.

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[quote=Skins4L;1106314]Can't compare us to the Seahawks who added theyre final pieces on defense thru FA. They have 4 elite dbs bro.... 4. Then up front Wagner.. two you named. And tons of role players even theyre nickel Lane is decent.. we have biggers...

But anyway.. im not saying no free agents. Im saying Oline in free agency. One other piece front office likes and that's it. Watch were gonna take it easy youll see.[/quote]

Did I say we wouldn't? I said it makes no sense to assume that we are going to draft 53 players no matter how many years the rebuild takes. It is about being smart in FA, and hitting on the right picks, but to say we will not add anyone via free agency is pretty stupid

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106239]No. It's because free agency rarely works. You rarely get the same player that you think you're getting, for whatever reason. There are numerous examples all around the league and on the Redskins roster.

I'd probably pass on Iupati. He's going to be too expensive. I'd hope that they pencil in Long at guard and draft a starting RT.[/quote]

I would say this is a perception based on our teams experience. There are teams that find quality pieces in FA and use them to succeed. If a team routinely struggles to find pieces in FA then that is a FO issue.

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[quote=SirLK26;1106227]To a point I wouldn't mind, but you can't just cut everybody who "sucks". Doing that would unnecessarily put us deeper in the hole. Chester, Bowen, and Clark obviously need to go. Guys like Meriweather, Lavuao, and Porter can still help.[/quote]

Has there been a Porter sighting? All those guys you mentioned can go bye-bye as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I think the guy who had the idea of throwing a grenade into the locker room to make the cuts wasn't far off.

I hardly care who goes bye-bye or how bad our W-L record may be over the next couple of seasons as long as we get younger and better to set ourselves up for long-term success. I want to see a true team build.