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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281914]What are the worst accusations?[/quote]

I thought the funniest was Urban Meyer acting like a bitch. What a complete douchbag-puss

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See, I don't even know what Urban Meyer did. I see where Parsons tweeted that he would make a QB change while he was on a recruiting visit. Ultimately OSU was not allowed to pursue him as a recruit due to their own recruiting violations during his visit. But there must be more to this story that I can't find.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281914]What are the worst accusations?[/quote]

I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

[URL="https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131"]https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131[/URL]

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters [B][U]would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied[/U][/B], he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing"]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing[/URL]

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[quote=Defensewins;1281917]I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. [B]I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. [/B] That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

[URL="https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131"]https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131[/URL]

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters [B][U]would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied[/U][/B], he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing"]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing[/URL][/quote]

Yeah me too. I never saw any of this hazing stuff. Now that's a red flag.

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Penn State guys saying "I'm going to Sandusky you"???

WTF.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281888]I would easily take Fields over Lance. And agree with not moving up[/quote]

I'd gladly take either at 19.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1281921]Penn State guys saying "I'm going to Sandusky you"???

WTF.[/quote]

Yeah, that's F'd up if that's true.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281884]Trey Lance

Man...I don’t think he is that good.

Lance weapon is his legs and his competition wasn’t even d1. He will not be able to take on nfl defenses like that...that guy loves to lower his shoulder.

This could be an RG3 type mistake and one we shouldn’t take.

Give me mond, mills, or trask later..do not throw away picks and set the franchise back again for Lance.

If they do, this new brain trust losses credit immediately. It should effectively cost jobs when it fails.[/quote]

He has a cannon arm, but the questions are mental. He is not primarily a legs guy, he can absolutely throw, but QB is 90% mental and that is big question mark with him and other project or projection QBs.

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[quote=Scalper;1281928]He has a cannon arm, but the questions are mental. He is not primarily a legs guy, he can absolutely throw, but QB is 90% mental and that is big question mark with him and other project or projection QBs.[/quote]


I'm with Chico.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong. But I bet a QB no one is talking about in the later rounds winds up having a more productive NFL career.

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Per Peter Hailey from NBCSports, WFT considered trading for Orlando Brown but dropped the plans after realizing the cost is too high. The more I read about WFT's offseason strategies, the more I doubt we would trade up in the draft. The theme has been pretty consistent - the WFT is sticking with the long-term strategies so I would be really surprised if we trade up.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1281935]I'm with Chico.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong. But I bet a QB no one is talking about in the later rounds winds up having a more productive NFL career.[/quote]

Happens every year. Would I trade up for him? No. Maybe if he was available at 15 or so for a 3rd to move up and nothing more, but probably not even then, and I seriously doubt he lasts that long.

If he was there at #19, and no top LT was, maybe, but again that is probably a pipe dream.

But trading farm no way. Hopefully get a LT and a QB we like later.

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[quote=GridIron26;1281936]Per Peter Hailey from NBCSports, WFT considered trading for Orlando Brown but dropped the plans after realizing the cost is too high. The more I read about WFT's offseason strategies, the more I doubt we would trade up in the draft. The theme has been pretty consistent - the WFT is sticking with the long-term strategies so I would be really surprised if we trade up.[/quote]

For once, build it the right way. About freaking time. Smart to enquire, smart not to pay what Chiefs did.

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[quote=Scalper;1281956]For once, build it the right way. About freaking time. Smart to enquire, smart not to pay what Chiefs did.[/quote]

Agree makes sense for chiefs but even imo they paid a steep price. Zeus Jr grades out much better at right than left. That being said he will still be a top ten LT probably and that will make a world of difference

With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....
 

Darrisaw - OT
JOK - LB
Parsons - if the football gods sign upon us - LB. can you imagine Young, Parsons & Sweat and our defense? We’ll be elite!!!
Parsons is either going to go early or he’s a guy that could slide with all the character questions that are (unsurprisingly) hitting the media now. I trust RR and Del Rio to know who the best LB to get in the draft. Of all the positions on the team that can be upgraded the quickest and to the best level LB is it. Second choice is OT.

Obviously if we could get an elite QB they would go for that but I think this draft will be remembered for the number of teams that traded away their draft futures for QB busts.


If by some miracle Trey Lance falls into the teens RR might go for it, I just don’t think he’ll drop.

I can see the top 5 QB going into the top 10-12 spots with teams like the Patriots trading up to get their QB.

The mad dash for the QB could get us either the second or third best OT or LB at #19.

LB in the first round. Then OT in the second round and an OG in the third.


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Screw Parsons.

Do not want.