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Wow - that's like "wishing" Darrell Green to the Cowboys...

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[QUOTE=Buster;460421]I vote for the Bears. That would be fun to watch.[/QUOTE]

Just think. Brett Favre could be tossing TDs to...Brandon Lloyd!

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;460234]I think the Packers were jaded by Favre's near-return in March. They are concerned he'll suddenly change his mind again, and with the regular season so close it's a risk they don't want to take.

What if Favre does come back, and just totally tanks it? It's unlikely but what if he just has a Cris Dishman-like fall? Wonder what the feeling will be then?[/QUOTE]

That's the most reasonable explanation for their behavior, but it still doesn't make sense. The upside of allowing Brett to come back greatly outweighs the downside IMO.

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[quote=SmootSmack;460490]Just think. Brett Favre could be tossing TDs to...Brandon Lloyd![/quote]

when did brandon lloyd learn how to catch????

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;460512]when did brandon lloyd learn how to catch????[/quote]
One of our local stations is doing that 32 teams in 32 days thing and one day this week they did the bears and had one of their reporters on the show. He said that LLoyd has looked very good in camp but did ? weather it would carry over into the season.

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i don't think it's fair if the packers are allowed to give him 20 mill to NOT play,and have it NOT count on the salary cap.i don't care what kind of package they put it in,that's cheating the salary cap any angle you look at it.i can't see why more fans and players are' making this a big deal.just cause he may be the best qb ever does'nt mean the rules should be bent for him.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;460600]i don't think it's fair if the packers are allowed to give him 20 mill to NOT play,and have it NOT count on the salary cap.i don't care what kind of package they put it in,that's cheating the salary cap any angle you look at it.i can't see why more fans and players are' making this a big deal.just cause he may be the best qb ever does'nt mean the rules should be bent for him.[/quote]
He was great but not near the best ever to play.

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[quote=firstdown;460601]He was great but not near the best ever to play.[/quote]

I heard he invented the internet

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[COLOR="Red"]He was great but not near the best ever to play. [/COLOR]

he's in the top 5 no problem.he is the toughest qb in the modern era.i'd take favre over young,marino,and montaa any day.i think that those 3 are the most ever overated qbs in history!

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;460615][COLOR=red]He was great but not near the best ever to play. [/COLOR]

he's in the top 5 no problem.he is the toughest qb in the modern era.i'd take favre over young,marino,and montaa any day.i think that those 3 are the most ever overated qbs in history![/quote]

You will have NO problem getting plenty of people to debate that with.

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[quote=Hog1;460618]You will have NO problem getting plenty of people to debate that with.[/quote]

Well almost anyone I talk to agree that he's in the top 5 and I think all of them can agree he's the toughest QB in modern era. I dont know about Marino, Young, Montana being overated though...

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If Farve takes this deal instead of coming back it would just be for money. I would lose all respect for him after he has talked so much about how he misses the game. He's going to get traded because the Packers are not going to let 7 million dollars sitting on the bench, No Way No How.

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[I]Well almost anyone I talk to agree that he's in the top 5 and I think all of them can agree he's the toughest QB in modern era. I dont know about Marino, Young, Montana being overated though... [/I]

i saws the refs give all 3 so many calls over the years get sick thinking about it.i also hate the 49ers almost at the level i hate dallas,the giants,iggles,nd the cardinals.
i'd take favre over them any day.if i had a team with favre,art monk,john riggins,the hogs and lawrence taylor,i'd win 90% of the games i played.

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[quote=SmootSmack;460490]Just think. Brett Favre could be tossing TDs to...Brandon Lloyd![/quote]I was in Milwaukee today, and for some reason, that visual got caught in my head.

Fun stuff.

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;460674][I]Well almost anyone I talk to agree that he's in the top 5 and I think all of them can agree he's the toughest QB in modern era. I dont know about Marino, Young, Montana being overated though... [/I]

i saws the refs give all 3 so many calls over the years get sick thinking about it.i also hate the 49ers almost at the level i hate dallas,the giants,iggles,nd the cardinals.
[B]i'd take favre over them any day.if i had a team with favre,art monk,john riggins,the hogs and lawrence taylor,i'd win 90% of the games i played[/B].[/QUOTE]

I always wanted a team of Jordan and Barkley, with Ewing in the middle. Guaranteed championship!

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;460674][I]Well almost anyone I talk to agree that he's in the top 5 and I think all of them can agree he's the toughest QB in modern era. I dont know about Marino, Young, Montana being overated though... [/I]

i saws the refs give all 3 so many calls over the years get sick thinking about it.i also hate the 49ers almost at the level i hate dallas,the giants,iggles,nd the cardinals.
i'd take favre over them any day.if i had a team with [b]favre,art monk,john riggins,the hogs and lawrence taylor,i'd win 90% of the games i played.[/b][/QUOTE]

So all you need to win games is 1 qb, 1 wr, 1 rb, an oline, and 1 lb????
Cause in this day and age, if you had all those players, there would be no room to sign valuable players at the other positions.

Young had 275 tds, and only 107 ints (can't find the fumbles lost stat, but I can find his fumbles stat, and his fumbles recovered stats. He had only 68 fumbles and recovered 19 meaning his fumble ratio was 49) So that's 275 total tds to (possibly) 156 turnovers. 96.8 qb rating.

Favre had 455 tds, and 288 ints (also had 147 fumbles and 38 recovered fumbles, meaning his fumble ratio was 109) So that's 455 total tds to (possibly) 397 turnovers. 85.7 qb rating.

Most experts will tell you that td to turnover ratio is an extremely important stat. Favre has a +167 ratio while Young has a +165 ratio...however, that does not include fumbles lost, nor does it factor in the fact that Young played in fewer games meaning his ratio per game is MUCH better than Favre's.
Considering that Favre had well over double the fumbles that Young had, Young easily has a better ratio.
If you count the stats I provided Favre's td to turnover ratio is 58, while Young's was 119. A hair over twice as good.

Throw in the dominant qb rating that Young has over Favre, and I'd easily take Young over favre.

This is not taking anything away from Favre...I do think he's a top 5, possibly top 3 qb all time, but to say Young was overrated...or Marino or Montana was overrated is lunacy.

ps- Joe Namath is the most overrated qb in history.

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Damn, Aaron Rogers went 7-20 in the scrimmage vs. their defense. Not good.

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So does anyone else think its bs that they are letting Favre come back and compete for the starting job? We had to sit through all that, and then in the end Favre gets his wish? And who truly believes that Aaron Rodgers will actually win the competition against Favre?

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[QUOTE=mooby;461380]So does anyone else think its bs that they are letting Favre come back and compete for the starting job? We had to sit through all that, and then in the end Favre gets his wish? And who truly believes that Aaron Rodgers will actually win the competition against Favre?[/QUOTE]

They are lying if they said they are holding an open competition. If the Packers are truly open to letting Favre compete, then there is no reason to even have a competition. There is no way in hell Aaron Rodgers beats Favre in an open competition. There are probably only 3 or 4 QBs in the league that could even challenge Favre in that competition. The man was #2 in MVP voting last year for crying out loud!

As for Favre returning to Green Bay, that could be for one of several reasons:

1.) They really are going to allow Favre back to camp

2.) They are going to try and work out a trade

3.) They are going to try and finalize the deal where they pay him to stay retired

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I think the Packers need him. And come on Aaron Rodgers had a horrible scrimmage. With Rodgers they go nowhere, with Favre they can do something.

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Ugh... It will be a happy day when I don't hear about this on the news every minute.

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[QUOTE=Skinny Tee;460453][url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/30/report-packers-willing-to-pay-favre-not-to-play/]ProFootballTalk.com - REPORT: PACKERS WILLING TO PAY FAVRE NOT TO PLAY[/url]

I think Farve should take up this option. He'd be the first player to ever be paid not to play. That would be a stat I would like to have.

Who could say that they paid not to play football?[/QUOTE]



That's where you are wrong. He should not take up this option because it would be against what he played for. He didn't play for the money. He played for the love of the game. So he would be changing his mind about what he played for. Not a very good idea.

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The Redskins don't need Fahrve...We've already got Brennan!

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Let's shut this thread down since the news has been updated and continue the Favre discussion here

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