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Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, Falcons (I think). Though I've heard the Texans might be on the list as well.

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[quote=44ever;527920]I would guess he would like to be part of that Pittsburgh D. Id hate to see him wearing a Star[/quote]

I'd hate to see him in Dallas as well. Do you think he and Gurode would be roommates at training camp?

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[quote=SkinzzFan;527923]I'd hate to see him in Dallas as well. Do you think he and Gurode would be roommates at training camp?[/quote]

Are you confusing Peppers with Haynesworth?

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What a horrible year for free agency. All of the guys I wanted to see in a Washington uniform are not coming. If we do anything it should be to re-sign the DTs we still have. Oh well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527927]Are you confusing Peppers with Haynesworth?[/quote]

I thought 44ever was referring to Haynesworth. In which case, I was talking about Haynesworth stomping on Gurodes face during their game a couple of years back. My bad if he was talking about Peppers there.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;527940]I thought 44ever was referring to Haynesworth. In which case, I was talking about Haynesworth stomping on Gurodes face during their game a couple of years back. My bad if he was talking about Peppers there.[/quote]

I was talking about Peppers. No worries bro.

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[quote=Mattyk72;527911]49ers too I think[/quote]

Actually you're right, and I'm wrong. Aside from the Cowboys, I don't think any team other than the 49ers ran a 3-4 in the NFC. Meanwhile in the AFC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NYJ, Denver (starting in '09), Miami, San Diego, and New England run the 3-4. I wonder why it's so much more prevalent in the AFC?

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[quote=GMScud;527953]Actually you're right, and I'm wrong. Aside from the Cowboys, I don't think any team other than the 49ers ran a 3-4 in the NFC. Meanwhile in the AFC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NYJ, Denver (starting in '09), Miami, San Diego, and New England run the 3-4. I wonder why it's so much more prevalent in the AFC?[/quote]Cards.

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After looking at GTripp's FA spreadsheets, I didn't realize that Darren McFadden is free agent right now.. I think, if we happen to trade away Rogers (Redskins better not tho, but) then we should go for McFadden? He is a physical CB.. Something that I love to see in our defense..

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[quote=GridIron26;527968]After looking at GTripp's FA spreadsheets, I didn't realize that Darren McFadden is free agent right now.. I think, if we happen to trade away Rogers (Redskins better not tho, but) then we should go for McFadden? He is a physical CB.. Something that I love to see in our defense..[/quote]

Bryant McFadden yo... Darren would get his ass handed to him at corner i'm pretty sure.

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[quote=The Goat;527971]Bryant McFadden yo... Darren would get his ass handed to him at corner i'm pretty sure.[/quote]

Lol my bad, sorry my mind isn't working right today.. Regardless of my mistake, think it would be good choice if things ren't going right with Carlos?

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[quote=GridIron26;527974]Lol my bad, sorry my mind isn't working right today.. Regardless of my mistake, think it would be good choice if things ren't going right with Carlos?[/quote]

Yeah the FA market for corner actually looks deeper than any other position. Maybe this is what the FO has in mind wrt Los... trade him for a draft pick and then grab a young talented guy in FA for less money. Problem is we're unlikely to get better than a 3rd round pick for him and we used a 1st round pick originally... bad value.

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Wow the Duece McCalister thread got closed fast. lol. Someone said something about a poll and I was racing to the bottom to ask if ladies came with it but found it closed. lol.

Also, I found it supprising that the Eagles fan popped out of no where. I know we get other teams fans but it's even funnier when you don't see any other fans for a while then out of the blue one shows up for one topic. lol. or better yet for a day then gone. lol.

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[quote=GTripp0012;527963]Cards.[/quote]

If im not mistaken, the cards base defense is a 4-3, although they do alot more 3-4 too. they brought in alot of versitile players the past year to be flexible.

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[quote=GTripp0012;527963]Cards.[/quote]

Okay, so there are 3 teams in the NFC that run a 3-4, as opposed to 9 in the AFC. Any insight into why it's 3x more popular in the other conference? That whole "it's a copycat league" thing?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;528019]If im not mistaken, the cards base defense is a 4-3, although they do alot more 3-4 too. they brought in alot of versitile players the past year to be flexible.[/quote]

Yeah, that's what I thought. This link suggests the same. CBS Sportsline's team capsules have their base defensive alignments:

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/ARI]Arizona Cardinals | NFL at CBSSports.com[/url]

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Leroy Hill and Dunta Robinson both just got franchised, apparently Nnamdi Asomugha is close to a 2-3 year deal with Oakland, and Jordan Gross is wrapping up a new 6 year deal with Carolina. All of this per PFT and ESPN.

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[quote=GMScud;528037]Yeah, that's what I thought. This link suggests the same. CBS Sportsline's team capsules have their base defensive alignments:

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/ARI]Arizona Cardinals | NFL at CBSSports.com[/url][/quote]

I know this is off-topic but i really dont know why they fired their d-coordinator. the defense played exceptionally well late in the season and they really don't have a very talented defense overall. I cant think of a single defensive player who would be considered in the top 5 at their position and only a couple who could be considered top 15.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;528041]I know this is off-topic but i really dont know why they fired their d-coordinator. the defense played exceptionally well late in the season and they really don't have a very talented defense overall. I cant think of a single defensive player who would be considered in the top 5 at their position and only a couple who could be considered top 15.[/quote]

Well, I would say Darnell Dockett, Adrian Wilson, and Karlos Dansby are all top 10 at their positions for sure. And Rogers-Cromartie is definitely a star on the rise. I heard Wisenhunt didn't really get along too well with Clancy Pendergrast (sp?).

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[quote=GMScud;528042]Well, I would say Darnell Dockett, Adrian Wilson, and Karlos Dansby are all top 10 at their positions for sure. And Rogers-Cromartie is definitely a star on the rise. I heard Wisenhunt didn't really get along to well with Clancy Pendergrast (sp?).[/quote]

Dockett had one strong year and thats it. hes certainly better than all our our tackles, but thats not saying much. Adrian Wilson is definitely top 10... dansby maybe, but there are alot of OLBs in the league... its kind of hard for me to rank them in my mind. I guess Wisenhut has the right to pick who he wants on his staff, but unless they get the LB coach from Pittsburg, i dont expect their defense to be nearly as good in 09.

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Lets slap the franchise tag on Montgomery or Golston, hell throw it on Doughty. I want to feel good about a player on our team not being able to leave. I am sick of all these teams using this to keep players, when we just give them all life time contracts.

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Peppers just got tagged

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The Saints are not going to tagged their FAs. I didn't see Vilma in this article, does anyone know if he re-signed with NO?

[url=http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1235025036316200.xml&coll=1&thispage=4]Scouts eyeing any surprises at the combine - Page 4 - NOLA.com[/url]

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This is interesting, I wonder what team will go after him...maybe a trade between NE and Carolina (Cassel for Peppers). I know player for player trades are rare in the NFL, but I could see this happening.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/19/panthers-franchise-peppers-after-signing-gross/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Panthers franchise Peppers after signing Gross «[/url]

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3 years, $45 million for Asomugha. $26 million guaranteed.

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[quote=Ruhskins;528060]This is interesting, I wonder what team will go after him...maybe a trade between NE and Carolina (Cassel for Peppers). I know player for player trades are rare in the NFL, but I could see this happening.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/19/panthers-franchise-peppers-after-signing-gross/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Panthers franchise Peppers after signing Gross «[/url][/quote]

that would be a very interesting trade and would fill needs for both teams. on the surface, i think the Pats would need to package Cassel with a draft pick, but the Pats are notorious for getting the better end of trades, so i could see it being a straight-up player for player trade.

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3 yrs 45 mil? thats just astronomical. wow. i gotta read up on that.

hopefully all this activity means we might hear something soon about hall and kendall. i am dying for some real actual news.

go skins!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;528065]3 years, $45 million for Asomugha. $26 million guaranteed.[/quote]
Were *******!

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[quote=SmootSmack;528065]3 years, $45 million for Asomugha. $26 million guaranteed.[/quote]

Damn, any chance we can get that hometown discount from Hall? Huh? Any takers? LOL.

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My guess is by Wednesday (maybe Thursday), the Redskins re-sign Hall at a price for about 6 years, $44 million and $14 million guaranteed. Total guess. Either way, I think we'll keep him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;528092]My guess is by Wednesday (maybe Thursday), the Redskins re-sign Hall at a price for about 6 years, $44 million and $14 million guaranteed. Total guess. Either way, I think we'll keep him.[/quote]

I want to keep him, but according to a reputable source on extremeskins, Hall was asking for more garaunteed than that before Aso's new contract, which raised the bar for everyone. We might be able to get him for a contract with total 6 year value in the $44M range, but the garaunteed money to sign him is going to be 18M or so now - minimum.

If we resign him, i'm guessing 6 years, 48M with 18M in garaunteed money, done in standard skins fashion where the first three years are manageable before major restructruing is required. I'm thinking cap figures of 5M, 7M, and 8M in the first three years.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;528073]Were *******![/quote]

Why? Asomugha is the best corner in the game. Hall can't carry his jock. I'm not a contract wiz by any means, but I don't think Asomugha's contract gives Hall any more leverage in his asking price.

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Exactly GMScud. Oakland had a 7 year contract with Hall and nothing but a franchise tag with Asomugha. If Hall was even close to Asomugha, it would have made more sense to hold on to Hall and let Asomugha go at the end of the year.

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[quote=Ruhskins;528059]The Saints are not going to tagged their FAs. I didn't see Vilma in this article, does anyone know if he re-signed with NO?

[url=http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1235025036316200.xml&coll=1&thispage=4]Scouts eyeing any surprises at the combine - Page 4 - NOLA.com[/url][/quote]

Not yet, they'll wait until after free agency starts to sign him, I'm sure.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;528098]I want to keep him, but according to a reputable source on extremeskins, Hall was asking for more garaunteed than that before Aso's new contract, which raised the bar for everyone. We might be able to get him for a contract with total 6 year value in the $44M range, but the garaunteed money to sign him is going to be 18M or so now - minimum.

If we resign him, i'm guessing 6 years, 48M with 18M in garaunteed money, done in standard skins fashion where the first three years are manageable before major restructruing is required. I'm thinking cap figures of 5M, 7M, and 8M in the first three years.[/quote]

None of this... if your guesses are accurate... seems unreasonable to me. The Hall debate has been somewhat off-point IMO (not pointing to you BHA but in general i mean) as the focus has been a Rogers vs. Hall theme or a Hall vs other FAs. From the day we picked him up I've viewed Hall as Springs replacement and i still think this is sort of a common sense view. So... we're paying Springs $8+ mill to miss several games each season (with '07 being the exception) and btw every off-season he talks about leaving... I'll take Hall, who wants to be Redskin, for $6 to $8 mill a year and feel like we did the smart thing. If we let Hall walk away to get paid $6 to $8 mill somewhere else and continue to pay Springs that kind of dough here... lame!!!

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[quote=Ruhskins;528059]The Saints are not going to tagged their FAs. I didn't see Vilma in this article, does anyone know if he re-signed with NO?

[url=http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1235025036316200.xml&coll=1&thispage=4]Scouts eyeing any surprises at the combine - Page 4 - NOLA.com[/url][/quote]

[quote]The Saints still plan to sign free agent Jonathan Vilma long term, but can't before free agency. Per the terms of last year's trade, the Jets will get a second-round pick if New Orleans locks Vilma up before March. The Saints don't have a second-rounder, so they'd lose the 14th pick overall.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
[/quote]

I assume that is a true quote, but I got it second hand. Certainly puts the Saints in a bit of a bind.

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[quote=GMScud;528127]Why? Asomugha is the best corner in the game. Hall can't carry his jock. I'm not a contract wiz by any means, [B]but I don't think Asomugha's contract gives Hall any more leverage in his asking price[/B].[/quote]

It does'nt. And I think Hall knows that. The Skins certainly do.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;528204]I assume that is a true quote, but I got it second hand. Certainly puts the Saints in a bit of a bind.[/quote]

Well it's more complicated than just that. If they signed him, the 4th round pick they owe the Jets would become a 2nd round pick, which they already owe to the Giants this year. And if the Saints had to take back that 2nd round pick and redirect it back to the Jets then they'd have to compensate the Giants by offering their 1st round pick in 2010. I think

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Here is a current list of available FA/RFA Punters. (As of this morning)

[B]Player Name ---------Current Team--------------Status------Ranking [/B]
Chris Hanson------------New England Patriots--------FA---------18th
Craig Hentrich-----------Tennessee Titans------------FA-------- 22nd
Sam Koch --------------Baltimore Ravens------------RFA -------- 9th
Hunter Smith----------- Indianapolis Colts -----------FA ---------12th

Either - Sam Koch or Hunter Smith would be a nice pickup now that Lechler is resigned.

Our only current punter is some 24 year old kid named Zac Atterberry I know nothing about him.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;528051]Lets slap the franchise tag on Montgomery or Golston, hell throw it on Doughty. I want to feel good about a player on our team not being able to leave. I am sick of all these teams using this to keep players, when we just give them all life time contracts.[/quote]

Ummmm, then pay them top 5 money? All for some guys not too many other teams would be throwing much at us for? You drunk?