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Skinny Tee 03-01-2009 05:02 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
Chris Canty just signed with the Giants with a 6year/42M dollar contract.

THE NFC BEAST IS GETTING ANGRIER!

Per NFL Network Breaking News.

SmootSmack 03-01-2009 05:06 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
Nice move by the Giants, are they thinking Canty, Robbins, Bernard, Osi as their starting line? Where does that leave Kiawanuka? Back at LB?

Dirtbag59 03-01-2009 05:06 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
Can't believe the Patriots might get Peppers. They certainly have the ammo, plus you put Peppers on that defense it's like Belicheck is playing Chess with mostly Queens (Seymour, Wilfolk, Mayo, and possibly Peppers).

Skinny Tee 03-01-2009 05:09 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=SmootSmack;532312]Nice move by the Giants, are they thinking Canty, Robbins, Bernard, Osi as their starting line? Where does that leave Kiawanuka? Back at LB?[/quote]

NFL Network is currently blowing up their defensive line as the thing to watch out for this year. They're saying they are going to be the most formidable group in the whole NFC East.

They're also saying the the Skins and Eagles need to shore up their OT spots in order to keep up with the Giants pass attack.

SFREDSKIN 03-01-2009 05:11 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;532315]NFL Network is currently blowing up their defensive line as the thing to watch out for this year. They're saying they are going to be the most formidable group in the whole NFC East.

They're also saying the the Skins and Eagles need to shore up their OT spots in order to keep up with the Giants pass attack.[/quote]

It's a no brainer, like I said, no weaknesses during their rotation.

CRedskinsRule 03-01-2009 05:14 PM

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I am glad they can only play 11 players on D at one time. Also, Skinny, how does this fit the earlier discussion, when their obvious weaknesses are the WR and DB's, not there DL. If we don't have enough depth, isn't there a point of too much depth at one point. After all, they get Usi back this year as well.

The Goat 03-01-2009 05:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;532312]Nice move by the Giants, [B]are they thinking Canty, Robbins, Bernard, Osi as their starting line? Where does that leave Kiawanuka? Back at LB?[/B][/quote]

I heard this somewhere (espn?) but can't remember exactly.

I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate and just say the G-men will be lucky to maintain the same defensive dominance, even with all these recent additions, because they're missing Spags. The defense wasn't really fantastic before he got there and they had pretty phenom players back then too.

... things will be more even in the NFC east this year unless the cowpokes continue to suffer locker room issues and the eagles don't upgrade anywhere, in which case I think we'll be pushing hard on the G-men all year.

Actually Dallas has some real work to do losing Canty and still stuck w/ the shitty set of corners. I hope they think springs is the answer at corner :D

Ruhskins 03-01-2009 05:21 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=The Goat;532322]I heard this somewhere (espn?) but can't remember exactly.
[B]
I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate and just say the G-men will be lucky to maintain the same defensive dominance, even with all these recent additions, because they're missing Spags. The defense wasn't really fantastic before he got there and they had pretty phenom players back then too. [/B]

... things will be more even in the NFC east this year unless the cowpokes continue to suffer locker room issues and the eagles don't upgrade anywhere, in which case I think we'll be pushing hard on the G-men all year.

Actually Dallas has some real work to do losing Canty and still stuck w/ the shitty set of corners. I hope they think springs is the answer at corner :D[/quote]

Well that would make sense, I mean having a different coach could affect them. But the word is that we're going to loose our two games against the Giants because of their ridiculous defensive line.

The Goat 03-01-2009 05:22 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;532325]Well that would make sense, I mean having a different coach could affect them. But the word is that we're going to loose our two games against the Giants because of their ridiculous defensive line.[/quote]

Dude i already said that's not cool.

Ruhskins 03-01-2009 05:26 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=The Goat;532328]Dude i already said that's not cool.[/quote]

I'm playing man, playing with all these people praising the hell out of the Giants.

Maybe we can convince Osi Umeniyora to get a travel show like Dhani Jones (I just saw a commercial for his show). LOL.

GMScud 03-01-2009 05:28 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=SmootSmack;532312]Nice move by the Giants, are they thinking Canty, Robbins, Bernard, Osi as their starting line? Where does that leave Kiawanuka? Back at LB?[/quote]

Regardless of what they do, they'll have a nice rotation. Don't forget about Justin Tuck. Canty can play end or tackle, so can Tuck. Kiawanuka can play linebacker and end. They can rotate guys around. Slide Canty inside and rush Kiawanuka from the end position on passing downs I'd assume.

Great move for them.

Skinny Tee 03-01-2009 05:30 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;532320]I am glad they can only play 11 players on D at one time. Also, Skinny, how does this fit the earlier discussion, when their obvious weaknesses are the WR and DB's, not there DL. If we don't have enough depth, isn't there a point of too much depth at one point. After all, they get Usi back this year as well.[/quote]

Being that they finished with a 12-4 record they didn't seem to suffer from the lack of depth at WR or DB. They moved the ball well enough with Jacobs and Ward going over 1000 yards behind their OL.


In a game with this much high intensity impact there is no such thing as too much depth....Hell, we apparently also have an endless supply of money so that is not holding us back.

CRedskinsRule 03-01-2009 05:40 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532334]Being that they finished with a 12-4 record they didn't seem to suffer from the lack of depth at WR or DB. They moved the ball well enough with Jacobs and Ward going over 1000 yards behind their OL.


In a game with this much high intensity impact there is no such thing as too much depth....Hell, we apparently also have an endless supply of money so that is not holding us back.[/quote]
Um what injuries did they have to their OLine??? Their fans, and commentators, acknowledge that their depth there is a question mark. They have had the same line together for 2-3 seasons with no injuries. That is a huge advantage for any team.
I am pretty confident that if our line had gone with no injuries for that same time we would have had a better offensive showing. I think that we will pick up another OL guy in free agency, and then Rinehart/Geisinger will be backups. (maybe one more OT backup out of the FA as well but we will see)

The Goat 03-01-2009 05:43 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;532343]Um what injuries did they have to their OLine??? Their fans, and commentators, acknowledge that their depth there is a question mark. They have had the same line together for 2-3 seasons with no injuries. That is a huge advantage for any team.
I am pretty confident that if our line had gone with no injuries for that same time we would have had a better offensive showing. I think that we will pick up another OL guy in free agency, and then Rinehart/Geisinger will be backups. (maybe one more OT backup out of the FA as well but we will see)[/quote]

Pretty sure we're done in FA unless there's more 1) restructures 2) cuts... and i doubt we see either.

CRedskinsRule 03-01-2009 05:46 PM

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[quote=The Goat;532347]Pretty sure we're done in FA unless there's more 1) restructures 2) cuts... and i doubt we see either.[/quote]
I could see letting Thrash go if it meant getting a solid lineman or Hunter Smith. (although if he stays I'm good with that as I like the guy's heart for the game)

The Goat 03-01-2009 05:53 PM

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Thrash and/or (I know I'm gonna take a ton of shit for suggesting this) Rock could be casualties if the FO really decides they want someone in FA. Adding a change-up RB in the draft seems more likely now but we're sure as hell not going to keep 4 backs on the roster to begin with and Portis/Betts aren't going anywhere. Together Thrash/Rock free up about $1.7 mill but obviously these are great Redskins in the locker room and on teams... i think this only happens if the FO sees a great value starter down the road in FA. Maybe Willis at RT i don't know. Very unlikely we make the cuts for a LB or any defensive player IMO.

SmootSmack 03-01-2009 06:17 PM

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[quote=GMScud;532333]Regardless of what they do, they'll have a nice rotation. Don't forget about Justin Tuck. Canty can play end or tackle, so can Tuck. Kiawanuka can play linebacker and end. They can rotate guys around. Slide Canty inside and rush Kiawanuka from the end position on passing downs I'd assume.

Great move for them.[/quote]

Jeez, can't believe I forgot about Tuck. I think Robbins may be cut

Redskin Jim 03-01-2009 06:28 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=The Goat;532322]I heard this somewhere (espn?) but can't remember exactly.

I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate and just say the G-men will be lucky to maintain the same defensive dominance, even with all these recent additions, because they're missing Spags. The defense wasn't really fantastic before he got there and they had pretty phenom players back then too.

... things will be more even in the NFC east this year unless the cowpokes continue to suffer locker room issues and the eagles don't upgrade anywhere, in which case I think we'll be pushing hard on the G-men all year.

[COLOR=black]Actually Dallas has some real work to do losing Canty and still stuck w/ the shitty set of corners. I hope they think springs is the answer at corner[/COLOR] :D[/quote]
I wouldn't be surprised to see Springs land here in New Orleans. Grilliams as d coordinator and their familiarity with eachother....

The Goat 03-01-2009 06:33 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;532368]I wouldn't be surprised to see Springs land here in New Orleans. Grilliams as d coordinator and their familiarity with eachother....[/quote]

No that can't happen as i've adopted NO as my (distant) 2nd favorite team... i can only be happy about Springs injuries if he's a cowpoke :)

Redskin Jim 03-01-2009 06:43 PM

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[quote=The Goat;532370]No that can't happen as i've adopted NO as my (distant) 2nd favorite team... i can only be happy about Springs injuries if he's a cowpoke :)[/quote]
LOL! Yeah, I have adopted the Saints as my second favorite team as well, follow them almost as closely as the Skins, as I am a season ticket holder. Their big weakness the past few years has been in the backfield and Grilliams WILL be adressing that weakness imediately...

JoeRedskin 03-01-2009 06:52 PM

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[quote=The Goat;532370]No that can't happen as i've adopted NO as my (distant) 2nd favorite team... i can only be happy about Springs injuries if he's a cowpoke :)[/quote]

I would be upset, for a variety or reasons, if Springs ends up in Dallas. He would improve their defense, knows our offense and would step up his game against us. Sure, the last two years he's had some injury issues, but he has been a top notch corner when he played. He goes to Dallas, he will play us twice a year - even if it's the only two games he plays all year.

IMHO, hate on him all you want. To root for him to go to Dallas is just ignorant.

53Fan 03-01-2009 07:22 PM

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The New York Football Giants can kiss my A**. We'll see how Opie feels when he sees big #92 bearing down on him. Everyone sounds like their willing to just bow down to them because they signed some more d-linemen. There's no doubt in my mind that our d-line has improved tremendously. Every player on our defense, Taylor, Carter, Fletcher and Hall included, is thanking their lucky stars we got Haynesworth. If you don't believe that, then you don't know defense. This party ain't over yet. What if we do draft Rey M.? I'd say that beats the hell out of signing Boley. Canty is good but he did not have the effect on the Cowgirls "D" that Haynesworth had on the Titans "D". Not even CLOSE. Anyone that wants to pack it in and crown the Giants champs, go ahead. But as I've read on here a hundred times, except it seems when it pertains to someone else, winning the offseason does'nt mean squat. I'm looking forward to playing their punk a**es and would expect that the team feels the same way.

CRedskinsRule 03-01-2009 07:31 PM

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[quote=53Fan;532382]The New York Football Giants can kiss my A**. We'll see how Opie feels when he sees big #92 bearing down on him. Everyone sounds like their willing to just bow down to them because they signed some more d-linemen. There's no doubt in my mind that our d-line has improved tremendously. Every player on our defense, Taylor, Carter, Fletcher and Hall included, is thanking their lucky stars we got Haynesworth. If you don't believe that, then you don't know defense. This party ain't over yet. What if we do draft Rey M.? I'd say that beats the hell out of signing Boley. Canty is good but he did not have the effect on the Cowgirls "D" that Haynesworth had on the Titans "D". Not even CLOSE. Anyone that wants to pack it in and crown the Giants champs, go ahead. But as I've read on here a hundred times, except it seems when it pertains to someone else, winning the offseason does'nt mean squat. I'm looking forward to playing their punk a**es and would expect that the team feels the same way.[/quote]
Sure that sounds good now, but my question is can you bring that same fire and intensity in September?? Will you take your off-season signings and just mail it in when the game is on the line? I know you were awesome on the board last season, but what about next year. Will your typing lose a key here and there. Will your responses be a day late? Come on get real it's just the off-season
[/sarcasm]
I am so looking forward to seeing Eli and Romo's faces when they line up and see AH!!! It's gonna be great!

vallin21 03-01-2009 07:32 PM

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[quote=53Fan;532382][B]The New York Football Giants can kiss my A**.[/B] We'll see how Opie feels when he sees big #92 bearing down on him. Everyone sounds like their willing to just bow down to them because they signed some more d-linemen. There's no doubt in my mind that our d-line has improved tremendously. Every player on our defense, Taylor, Carter, Fletcher and Hall included, is thanking their lucky stars we got Haynesworth. If you don't believe that, then you don't know defense. This party ain't over yet. What if we do draft Rey M.? I'd say that beats the hell out of signing Boley. Canty is good but he did not have the effect on the Cowgirls "D" that Haynesworth had on the Titans "D". Not even CLOSE. Anyone that wants to pack it in and crown the Giants champs, go ahead. But as I've read on here a hundred times, except it seems when it pertains to someone else, winning the offseason does'nt mean squat. [B]I'm looking forward to playing their punk a**es and would expect that the team feels the same way[/B].[/quote]

F... Yeah 53! :food-smil

TheMalcolmConnection 03-01-2009 07:37 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532315]NFL Network is currently blowing up their defensive line as the thing to watch out for this year. They're saying they are going to be the most formidable group in the whole NFC East.
[B][I]
They're also saying the the Skins and Eagles need to shore up their OT spots in order to keep up with the Giants pass attack.[/I][/B][/quote]

HAHA! What pass attack? Remember how things fared for them with Burress out... I'm not overly concerned about that Giants pass attack until they find another legit number one.

53Fan 03-01-2009 07:38 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;532383]Sure that sounds good now, but my question is can you bring that same fire and intensity in September?? Will you take your off-season signings and just mail it in when the game is on the line? I know you were awesome on the board last season, but what about next year. Will your typing lose a key here and there. Will your responses be a day late? Come on get real it's just the off-season
[/sarcasm]
[B]I am so looking forward to seeing Eli and Romo's faces when they line up and see AH!!![/B] It's gonna be great![/quote]

Priceless! I can promise you I'll be fired up come September my friend. :)

CRedskinsRule 03-01-2009 07:40 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;532385]HAHA! What pass attack? Remember how things fared for them with Burress out... I'm not overly concerned about that Giants pass attack until they find another legit number one.[/quote]

What are you saying Malcolm??? Didn't you know that the Giants have great backups in every position, that's why drafting 3 more front 7 guys makes soooo much sense!

SFREDSKIN 03-01-2009 07:45 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=53Fan;532382]The New York Football Giants can kiss my A**. We'll see how Opie feels when he sees big #92 bearing down on him. Everyone sounds like their willing to just bow down to them because they signed some more d-linemen. There's no doubt in my mind that our d-line has improved tremendously. Every player on our defense, Taylor, Carter, Fletcher and Hall included, is thanking their lucky stars we got Haynesworth. If you don't believe that, then you don't know defense. This party ain't over yet. What if we do draft Rey M.? I'd say that beats the hell out of signing Boley. Canty is good but he did not have the effect on the Cowgirls "D" that Haynesworth had on the Titans "D". Not even CLOSE. Anyone that wants to pack it in and crown the Giants champs, go ahead. But as I've read on here a hundred times, except it seems when it pertains to someone else, winning the offseason does'nt mean squat. I'm looking forward to playing their punk a**es and would expect that the team feels the same way.[/quote]

Then we better build our OL and forget Maualuga cause we need OL help first and foremost. Nobody is conceding to the G-men, I'm praising their smart way of signing FA (just like NE would do). Don't tell me their D doesn't scare the shit out of you? Slight weaknesses (maybe CB) and they can address RB,WR and CB with draft picks. I can tell you that all the writers will say they are the favorites to win the SB next year. Write it down.

53Fan 03-01-2009 07:57 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;532389]Then we better build our OL and forget Maualuga cause we need OL help first and foremost. Nobody is conceding to the G-men, I'm praising their smart way of signing FA (just like NE would do). Don't tell me their D doesn't scare the shit out of you? Slight weaknesses (maybe CB) and they can address RB,WR and CB with draft picks. I can tell you that all the writers will say they are the favorites to win the SB next year. Write it down.[/quote]

I'm telling you RIGHT NOW their "D" doesn't scare the shit out of me and you can write THAT down. They were probably the favorites last year too, or was it the Cowgirls? So what? They've done a pretty good job but I'm not ready to call them genuise's yet. Not by any means. They made their strength a little stronger probably but they have'nt really addressed anything else. And you're assuming they're going to have a good draft and we're not just because they have more picks right now. And Maualuga is not the only LB in the draft better than Boley, so we may still get a starting OT and LB in the draft. They're not the only ones who can address needs in the draft.

Nflnick11 03-01-2009 08:02 PM

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3 thoughts here:
1 we should go after crowell and sign him to a 1 year deal as a OLB for a year here
2 we should also go after khalif barnes to maybe see if we could fix up our RT spot
3 how will the giants afford all those DLineman, who of them will be cut, it could be robbins, or it could, could, be umenyiora

SFREDSKIN 03-01-2009 08:05 PM

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[quote=53Fan;532395]I'm telling you RIGHT NOW their "D" doesn't scare the shit out of me and you can write THAT down. They were probably the favorites last year too, or was it the Cowgirls? So what? They've done a pretty good job but I'm not ready to call them genuise's yet. Not by any means. They made their strength a little stronger probably but they have'nt really addressed anything else. And you're assuming they're going to have a good draft and we're not just because they have more picks right now. And Maualuga is not the only LB in the draft better than Boley, so we may still get a starting OT and LB in the draft. They're not the only ones who can address needs in the draft.[/quote]

Don't underestimate Jerry Reese, he has proven to be an excellent GM.

Lotus 03-01-2009 08:09 PM

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[quote=Nflnick11;532396]3 thoughts here:
1 we should go after crowell and sign him to a 1 year deal as a OLB for a year here
2 we should also go after khalif barnes to maybe see if we could fix up our RT spot
3 how will the giants afford all those DLineman, who of them will be cut, it could be robbins, or it could, could, be umenyiora[/quote]

Perhaps the Giants are stocking the DL because Umenyiora's rehab isn't going so well.

53Fan 03-01-2009 08:27 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;532399]Don't underestimate Jerry Reese, he has proven to be an excellent GM.[/quote]

I am in no way trying to downplay what the Giants have done. I just don't buy that what they've done is great and what we've done sucks. I just don't. But I understand what you're saying SFREDSKIN. :food-smil

SFREDSKIN 03-01-2009 08:35 PM

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[quote=53Fan;532406]I am in no way trying to downplay what the Giants have done. I just don't buy that what they've done is great and what we've done sucks.[/quote]

I never said what we've done sucks. All I'm saying is that with all the holes we have we could have addresses lots of them and the strengthen them even more with the draft. We still have holes in the OL, LB and DE spots, I'm not sold on Taylor, possibly losing Evans. Our LB corps is a mess, Fletcher is great but his getting old, McIntosh was bad last year and is a question ? (I hope he regains his form) Washington gone, Blades is good, Fincher Is decent. We have too many ? going into the draft.

The Goat 03-01-2009 08:47 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;532412]I never said what we've done sucks. All I'm saying is that with all the holes we have we could have addresses lots of them and the strengthen them even more with the draft. We still have holes in the OL, LB and DE spots, I'm not sold on Taylor, possibly losing Evans. Our LB corps is a mess, Fletcher is great but his getting old, McIntosh was bad last year and is a question ? (I hope he regains his form) Washington gone, Blades is good, Fincher Is decent. We have too many ? going into the draft.[/quote]

Some of the things you outlined here I had in mind with the Room for disappointment thread... but i can't really agree you're painting a realistic picture of the roster. LB corp a mess? Fletcher is a beast, period. His age is a worry and the fact that he got a bit nicked up last year but this is one of the most durable players in the league. Rocky struggled but remember it was his recovery year from the '07 knee blowout, and leading up to that incident in '07 he was off the hook. There is no reason to write him off. Clearly we want to add a legit playmaker, probably at WLB because Rocky is likely to switch this year. But ultimately we've got a serviceable starter in Blades and a pretty fascinating opportunity in Taylor (even though I'd prefer a monster like Rey at LB so JT can stay at RDE).

I don't understand you're perspective on DE. We've got AC and JT locked down and the team can easily sign Daniels or Evans for a little money (probably the only other thing will do in FA i would guess).

The o-line can be vastly improved w/ a single decision if the FO takes a stud at 13. Not only does this give us a monster at RT it allows Jansen to compete elsewhere or at least be the primary back-up and don't pretend like he won't have a giant chip on his shoulder if/when he gets an opportunity (like last year).

SFREDSKIN 03-01-2009 08:51 PM

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[quote=The Goat;532417]Some of the things you outlined here I had in mind with the Room for disappointment thread... but i can't really agree you're painting a realistic picture of the roster. LB corp a mess? Fletcher is a beast, period. His age is a worry and the fact that he got a bit nicked up last year but this is one of the most durable players in the league. Rocky struggled but remember it was his recovery year from the '07 knee blowout, and leading up to that incident in '07 he was off the hook. There is no reason to write him off. Clearly we want to add a legit playmaker, probably at WLB because Rocky is likely to switch this year. But ultimately we've got a serviceable starter in Blades and a pretty fascinating opportunity in Taylor (even though I'd prefer a monster like Rey at LB so JT can stay at RDE).

I don't understand you're perspective on DE. We've got AC and JT locked down and the team can easily sign Daniels or Evans for a little money (probably the only other thing will do in FA i would guess).

The o-line can be vastly improved w/ a single decision if the FO takes a stud at 13. Not only does this give us a monster at RT it allows Jansen to compete elsewhere or at least be the primary back-up and don't pretend like he won't have a giant chip on his shoulder if/when he gets an opportunity (like last year).[/quote]

My concern with Taylor and Carter is that they are tweeners (undersized) maybe with Haynesworth in the middle it might be different. We need a replacement for Taylor going into 2010, Daniels is pre-historic and coming back from injury and Evans could sign with the 49ers tomorrow.

53Fan 03-01-2009 08:54 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;532412]I never said what we've done sucks. All I'm saying is that with all the holes we have we could have addresses lots of them and the strengthen them even more with the draft. We still have holes in the OL, LB and DE spots, I'm not sold on Taylor, possibly losing Evans. Our LB corps is a mess, Fletcher is great but his getting old, McIntosh was bad last year and is a question ? (I hope he regains his form) Washington gone, Blades is good, Fincher Is decent. We have too many ? going into the draft.[/quote]

If I said I was 100% happy with everything I'd be lying. But even though I had doubts about AH, I feel better about him now and think he will be a beast on our line and it will help our entire defense. We needed to address that and we did. I love that we got Doc back even though Kendall did a good job at the same position last year. At least we got younger. I'm not completely sold on Hall but I expect for us to get alot more INT's on "D" this year. Especially with AH on the line. Until we see what happens in the draft it's hard to tell how well we've done, but I feel that we've made some improvement over last year. I'm not completely sold on Taylor either but signing AH just made his job easier too. I would like to get Marcus back and spend at least our first 2 picks on the line and then get a LB but that ain't gonna happen. If we upgrade the center or tackle position, or both, in the draft, it would be hard for me to feel we have'nt done a good job of upgrading our team.

SmootSmack 03-01-2009 08:59 PM

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I'm eager to see how Buzbee, Jackson, and Wilson fit in with everything. I know Buzbee is seen as a pass-rush specialist supposedly. I'm not sure what Jackson is seen as, and I tend to think Wilson might be better suited as a LB.

The Giants made some fine moves, but so did we.

The Goat 03-01-2009 09:37 PM

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Details on the Canty signing:

[B]Giants beat Pack to Canty punch

Now that Chris Canty has signed a six-year, $42 million deal with the Giants, a contract that includes $17.25 million guaranteed in the first two years, here's something to keep in mind: The ex-Cowboys defensive lineman is now better paid than all three of New York's top three defensive ends, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Mathias Kiwanuka.

Tuck signed a five-year, $30 million contact that included $16 million of guarantees in January 2008. While Kiwanuka is still working under his relatively modest rookie contract, it's Umenyiora who might have the most unfavorable reaction to Canty's new deal. Umenyiora, who missed all of last season with a left knee injury, is still under the six-year, almost $41 million deal he signed in December 2005. That contract runs through 2012, and includes $15 million of guarantees, but the marketplace has since rendered it a bit out of date. It's expected that Umenyiora will ask the Giants to renegotiate his deal if he has a big comeback season in 2009.

Canty was prepared to leave the Giants complex and fly to Green Bay for a free-agent visit Sunday night -- if New York didn't hit the $7 million per year average that he was seeking. According to a league source I talked with, the Packers weren't scared off at all by the $7 million average salary and would have likely topped New York's offer. But Green Bay, which is switching to the 3-4 defense this year, wanted Canty to come to town and meet the coaching staff before negotiations began in earnest.

The Packers viewed Canty as the best 3-4 end available in free agency, but they traditionally move slow in free agency and weren't prepared to compete with the Giants' offer in negotiations over the phone. But early Friday morning, after the start of free agency, Canty was almost certain he was going to sign with Washington, only to see the Redskins take their deal off the table when they locked up Albert Haynesworth around 5 a.m. Canty had been offered $18 million guaranteed by the Redskins, and he wasn't eager to visit Green Bay if it involved the risk of potentially losing the Giants' deal in the process.

After Haynesworth, Canty and ex-Arizona defensive end Antonio Smith, who signed a five-year, $35 million deal with Houston on Saturday, are the only two free-agent defensive linemen who reached the $7 million average in salary this weekend. -- Don Banks (6[/B]

Personally I think he's overrated, in fact far more overrated, than big Al and yet he got a truckload of guaranteed money. Canty's stats are not much better than Evan's when he starts or Daniels before he got hurt. Whatever... i'm just glad we didn't add another cowpoke to the roster.

44ever 03-01-2009 09:43 PM

Re: 2009 Free Agent Signings
 
[quote=SmootSmack;532421]I'm eager to see how Buzbee, Jackson, and Wilson fit in with everything. I know Buzbee is seen as a pass-rush specialist supposedly. I'm not sure what Jackson is seen as, and I tend to think Wilson might be better suited as a LB.

The Giants made some fine moves, but so did we.[/quote]

Smoot, has there been any more talk of another FA aquisition? And do you think we have any interest in getting Marcus back?


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