Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

Money always talks. I wouldn't say that it's a guarantee JC is gone next year. If he blows up he will get paid, and who's to say he would want to start over again somewhere else?

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=Mattyk72;550534]Money always talks. I wouldn't say that it's a guarantee JC is gone next year. If he blows up he will get paid, and who's to say he would want to start over again somewhere else?[/quote]

Yeah, something tells me Jason Campbell isn't spiteful enough to gamble his career on a new start elsewhere just because he had his feelings hurt, especially if he puts up big numbers. He's a big boy, he knows it's the business.

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=Mattyk72;550534]Money always talks. I wouldn't say that it's a guarantee JC is gone next year. If he blows up he will get paid, and who's to say he would want to start over again somewhere else?[/quote]

Is it really starting over when you've learned all the offenses out there :silly:

No I really hope JC is a pro-bowler in '09, acknowledging the fact we didn't do a whole lot to help him on offense, and the FO/fanbase/Warpath all get behind him. Character really counts for a lot in my book...

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[quote=The Goat;550561]Is it really starting over when you've learned all the offenses out there :silly:

No I really hope JC is a pro-bowler in '09, acknowledging the fact we didn't do a whole lot to help him on offense, and the FO/fanbase/Warpath all get behind him. [B]Character really counts for a lot in my book...[/B][/quote]

Me too. I'd rather root for a Campbell who I can respect than a douche that I cannot respect.

I think JC is going to be much better next year even if we don't get him more OL help. Needless to say, I hope we do get him that help.

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[quote=53Fan;549941]I don't know much about Idaho. Is the whole state full of retards?[/quote]

Can you imagine me saying I don't know much about Redskins fans. are they all retards? ya not a very smart thing to say from a person who's obviously smarter person than us Idahoans :cool-smilbut not I'm from Virginia ;) i'm surprised you would respond like that just from what I said.... and I'm even more surprised that you would come on here to point out how much of a "retard" i am or how much smarter you are by saying something stupid..... just have your gorda la fea or your chick give you a massage and calm down it's just my opinion I didn't have to get on here making fun of ppl or calling any1 "retards" I know you feel cool here on a website but it's just a blog relax I didn't say anything bout ur mom, it's ok ;)

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[QUOTE=The Goat;550561]Is it really starting over when you've learned all the offenses out there :silly:

No I really hope JC is a pro-bowler in '09, acknowledging the fact we didn't do a whole lot to help him on offense, and the FO/fanbase/Warpath all get behind him. Character really counts for a lot in my book...[/QUOTE

Winning games counts alot in my book. Character doesnt help you understand an offense.

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=gw0103;549945]Campbell will hopefully be Our starter for sometime to come. The guy has not had one OC in place for any set time and I think He has shown alot of maturity
just going through the changes year after year in playcalling, an old, injury-prone OL, and substandard recieving core. Just give JC a chance to stop
running for His life in the pocket, and He'll do something.. I like him, but his motion quickness in pass delivery needs to speed up and I think they need to
let Him get more of a feel for his game, not be always waiting for someone to radio in a solution. If He masters those two aspects and the OL and Portis
do their do, we'll be set to kick you know what.[/quote]

do you write these, paste them into notepad, and then back into the text editor?

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[quote=redskins1974;550671][QUOTE=The Goat;550561]Is it really starting over when you've learned all the offenses out there :silly:

No I really hope JC is a pro-bowler in '09, acknowledging the fact we didn't do a whole lot to help him on offense, and the FO/fanbase/Warpath all get behind him. Character really counts for a lot in my book...[/QUOTE

Winning games counts alot in my book. [B]Character doesnt help you understand an offense.[/B][/quote]

Character does help you understand an offense if it means that you are a student of the game rather than hanging out in strip clubs with Pacman.

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[quote=sancho2613;550632]Can you imagine me saying I don't know much about Redskins fans. are they all retards? ya not a very smart thing to say from a person who's obviously smarter person than us Idahoans :cool-smilbut not I'm from Virginia ;) i'm surprised you would respond like that just from what I said.... a[B]nd I'm even more surprised that you would come on here to point out how much of a "retard" i am[/B] or how much smarter you are by saying something stupid..... just have your gorda la fea or your chick give you a massage and calm down it's just my opinion I didn't have to get on here making fun of ppl or calling any1 "retards" I know you feel cool here on a website but it's just a blog relax I didn't say anything bout ur mom, it's ok ;)[/quote]

I'm even MORE surprised that YOU would come on here to PROVE how much of a retard you are

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[quote=Lotus;550684][quote=redskins1974;550671]

Character does help you understand an offense if it means that you are a student of the game rather than hanging out in strip clubs with Pacman.[/quote]

well apparently it hasnt helped JC yet....this game is about wins and losses.

i know, i know, JC is going to be a pro bowl QB this year.....just like everyone predicted last year. blah blah blah

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=SkinzzFan;548893]He may not need to demand a trade. If they move up to draft Sanchez, he'll most likely be traded. In fact, it's possible they would need to include whatever pick they get for Campbell to help make the Sanchez deal.

I wish this wasn't even a possibility. I really like Campbell.

HAIL![/quote]

he acts as if he had a choice..they were trying to get ride of him pending a Cutler trade. I think we sent wrong signals with this kid. I don't like him but how can he be confident now?

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=DoggDayAfternoon;550744]he acts as if he had a choice..they were trying to get ride of him pending a Cutler trade. I think we sent wrong signals with this kid. I don't like him but how can he be confident now?[/quote]

I think the Sanchez talk and maybe even the Cutler trade were all smoke and JC knew this. In his post-draft presser Zorn mentioned something about false reports concerning Cutler.

If JC was in on a smoke screen from the beginning, he likely feels more wanted now, not less.

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[quote=redskins1974;550711][quote=Lotus;550684]

well apparently it hasnt helped JC yet....this game is about wins and losses.

i know, i know, JC is going to be a pro bowl QB this year.....just like everyone predicted last year. blah blah blah[/quote]

Where I live wins and losses are earned by teams, not qb's. For example, it wasn't JC who collapsed and allowed San Fran to come back and win the game. It wasn't JC who fumbled on the 1 against Cinci. Change those two games and JC went 10-6 last year.

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[quote=Lotus;550755][quote=redskins1974;550711]

Where I live wins and losses are earned by teams, not qb's. For example, it wasn't JC who collapsed and allowed San Fran to come back and win the game. It wasn't JC who fumbled on the 1 against Cinci. Change those two games and JC went 10-6 last year.[/quote]

QB's don't earn wins and losses so the TEAM would've went 10-6

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=tryfuhl;550685]I'm even MORE surprised that YOU would come on here to PROVE how much of a retard you are[/quote]

what's the deal with calling people douches and retards? No need for that

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

on a somewhat related note, we may actually still end up with Leftwich (as a backup), long shot but possible

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=SmootSmack;550789]on a somewhat related note, we may actually still end up with Leftwich (as a backup), long shot but possible[/quote]

Huh?

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

i hope all this crap doesnt effect JCs play.

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=SmootSmack;550784]what's the deal with calling people douches and retards? No need for that[/quote]

When people act like that they get threatened with the ban button but I can't say that? Are you reading this gold?

edit: I can stop though, we let other teams beat us up on our home field, might as well do it on the forums too :p

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=SmootSmack;550789]on a somewhat related note, we may actually still end up with Leftwich (as a backup), long shot but possible[/quote]
Is there a reason that you're always so vague? haha

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=skins89moss;549949]We know the Redskins have prematurely given up on QB's ( Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Sage Rosenfells, Stan Humphries) that have gone on to have decent careers. Oh i did forget one more QB that wore the Burgandy and Gold who played in a Super Bowl. Anyone remember Rich Gannon playing for the Redskins?
Lets give JC every chance to succeed before we kick him to the curb. I think Jason will have a huge Chip on his shoulder to prove all you haters wrong.[/quote]

Thank the Jets we get to JC in this offense for another year. Give Hell JC and show them what you got. Just because he doesnt scream and yell at players doesnt mean Jason isn't a leader. He will let his play do the talking. You give him time and JC will eat the secondary alive. Hail baby...

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=Superman13732;549317]He's been developing for 4 years!!!!! good god, by the time he "reaches his potential" he'll 34. Enough is enough, we have other more pressing needs than QB right now, so we should stick it out, but Jason Campbell is not the future.[/quote]

Agreed. I'm still with the mind set that JC is not the future. Blocking needs to be better, however, he's not mobile enough to escape a rush. Takes too long to make passing decisions, fumbles, trips over his own feet. He is tough though, great character. Now that JC see's that performance is everything, I hope to see a more fired up QB.

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[quote=Lotus;550755][quote=redskins1974;550711]

Where I live wins and losses are earned by teams, not qb's. For example, it wasn't JC who collapsed and allowed San Fran to come back and win the game. It wasn't JC who fumbled on the 1 against Cinci. Change those two games and JC went 10-6 last year.[/quote]

well what player is the leader on the offense and runs the offense?
Did you know the Detroit lions didnt win a game last year, and score more offensive points then the Redskins? Three teams in the entire league scored less points then us. Three. Our wins last year were mainly earned by Portis and the 4th ranked D.

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[quote=redskins1974;550832][quote=Lotus;550755]

well what player is the leader on the offense and runs the offense?
Did you know the Detroit lions didnt win a game last year, and score more offensive points then the Redskins? Three teams in the entire league scored less points then us. Three. Our wins last year were mainly earned by Portis and the 4th ranked D.[/quote]

Well maybe if our defense could have got more sacks and pressured the QB we could of forced more turnovers. Turnovers kill a team.

Re: Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB
 

[quote=Lotus;550754]I think the Sanchez talk and maybe even the Cutler trade were all smoke and JC knew this. In his post-draft presser Zorn mentioned something about false reports concerning Cutler.

If JC was in on a smoke screen from the beginning, he likely feels more wanted now, not less.[/quote]

No these were not smokescreens. They were def trying to get rid of him.

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[quote=skins89moss;550834][quote=redskins1974;550832]

Well maybe if our defense could have got more sacks and pressured the QB we could of forced more turnovers. Turnovers kill a team.[/quote]

What? Even though we did not force turnovers, we had the 4th ranked D in the league. Our D was the strength. We didnt score points all year, and even though its a team sport, that falls on the QB.

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[quote=nyredskinsfan;550826]Agreed. I'm still with the mind set that JC is not the future. Blocking needs to be better, however, he's not mobile enough to escape a rush. Takes too long to make passing decisions, fumbles, trips over his own feet. He is tough though, great character. Now that JC see's that performance is everything, I hope to see a more fired up QB.[/quote]

100% agree on the first part.

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Our Defense did not step up a few games when we needed to get a stop to win. Remember the Rams game and the 49ers game comes to mind.

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[quote=redskins1974;550836][quote=skins89moss;550834]

What? Even though we did not force turnovers, we had the 4th ranked D in the league. Our D was the strength. We didnt score points all year, and even though its a team sport, [B]that falls on the QB[/B].[/quote]

Amen. Campbell's inability to stretch the field allowed teams to stack the box against CP. Most of his passes that were longer than 20 yards were thanks to his receivers after catch ability. Poor Santana was missed on more downfield passes, either with the ball sailing 10 yards over his head, or he was under thrown to... There's like a 10% chance that JC makes an accurate throw down the field.

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[quote=skins89moss;550838]Our Defense did not step up a few games when we needed to get a stop to win. Remember the Rams game and the 49ers game comes to mind.[/quote]

I don't remember.... When did JC win us the game? I remember Portis winning them by himself in the first of the season, and i remember our D winning two in the second half... but JC, i mean it was nice when he wasn't throwing Interceptions, he wasn't throwing TD's either though....

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We had the 22 ranked offense and the 4th ranked defense and your going to blame the Defense.... too funny. How about games we needed the Offense to step up - we scored 10 points at home against Dallas, 7 points against Pitt, 10 points at home against NY, 7 points opening game at NY, 13 points at home against the pathetic Rams....etc - ALL LOSSES. (scored only 14 points against the browns and only 14 against the eagles but still won thanks to the Defense). come on man, stop already with blaming the D

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[quote=redskins1974;550841]We had the 22 ranked offense and the 4th ranked defense and your going to blame the Defense.... too funny. How about games we needed the Offense to step up - we scored 10 points at home against Dallas, 7 points against Pitt, 10 points at home against NY, 7 points opening game at NY, 13 points at home against the pathetic Rams....etc - ALL LOSSES. (scored only 14 points against the browns and only 14 against the eagles but still won thanks to the Defense). come on man, stop already with blaming the D[/quote]

Our Offense was a consistant 3 and out. Be surprised that the Def was able to do as well as they did when they were on the field all that time. Back in the day the Skins Off was known to wear down a D and we took over the 4th qtr. It's the other way around now.

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Actually, the offense was on the field more than the defense. We were 8th in the NFL in Time of Possession with 31:31. We did do a terrible job of converting 3rd down, though.

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and settled for a ton of field goals....

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[quote=redskins1974;550848]and settled for a ton of field goals....[/quote]

Eve with a Red Zone threat like Cooley/Sellers.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;550847]Actually, the offense was on the field more than the defense. We were 8th in the NFL in Time of Possession with 31:31. We did do a terrible job of converting 3rd down, though.[/quote]

Thanks for correcting my guess work. Guess it just seemed like they were always back in on 3 and outs.

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It is a non-issue now, however the Skins have some work to do in repairing their relationship with JC.

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[quote=Superman13732;550849]Eve with a Red Zone threat like Cooley/Sellers.[/quote]

Then they must not be much of a Red Zone threat.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;550847]Actually, the offense was on the field more than the defense. We were 8th in the NFL in Time of Possession with 31:31. We did do a terrible job of converting 3rd down, though.[/quote]
Time of possession means nothing if you cannot convert that into point on the board.

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[quote=firstdown;550862]Time of possession means nothing if you cannot convert that into point on the board.[/quote]

It means the offense was on the field longer than the defense which was the whole point of the post.