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BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:26 PM

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Wow, Cleveland's looking pretty damn smart so far. haven't said that in a while.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 06:26 PM

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I feel bad for Oher. I hoped he would go sooner (to us particularly)

WestCoastSkinsFan 04-25-2009 06:26 PM

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If they wanted Mack, I'm surprised they didn't trade back again!

Gmanc711 04-25-2009 06:28 PM

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I don't know what it would cost to trade up, and I know we have nothing this year to really trade.... but I wouldn't mind trying to see what it would take to trade up and get Oher....

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:29 PM

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That could be a heck of a combo with AP.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 06:29 PM

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Cerrato, if he can be believed, said they called every team ahead us to get orakpo.

WestCoastSkinsFan 04-25-2009 06:30 PM

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I don't think we have the fuel to move back into the 1st without paying too high of a price.

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:30 PM

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Boomer is ****ing annoying me. Time to switch to NFLN.

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:34 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550365]Cerrato, if he can be believed, said they called every team ahead us [B]to get orakpo.[/B][/quote]

I hope he stays healthy and Blache finds a way to fit him into our system well. It's unclear to me where they will put him. Long term i think Orakpo's best chance of making an impact is RDE...but I highly doubt we sit Carter immediately. I can't see the guy playing OLB in our system unless we're going to teach him to cover and make plays in space. And finally i don't see him as a a run-blocking monster at LDE...so again not sure where Orakpo fits but i guess we can say the Skins took the BPA at 13...that's nice.

WaldSkins 04-25-2009 06:35 PM

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Lets trade up and select Oher.

budw38 04-25-2009 06:36 PM

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We just might be Dominant on Defense ,,,, we should get some turnovers and score some more points . Now if we can luck out in the 3rd rd and hit a find on day two , we could see some Redskins football . I just wish we opened at home vs the cowturds.

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:37 PM

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Well so much for going back in for Oher.

53Fan 04-25-2009 06:37 PM

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Mangini saw how much Mangold helped the o-line in New York and took Mack. Smart move. I think Orakpo may play SAM on first and second and DE on third down. Similar to what they had in mind for JT. Ravens get Oher.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 06:37 PM

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Oher goes to Baltimore, now if they get rid of Lewis, I might be able to stomach them.

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:39 PM

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[quote=credskinsrule;550375]oher goes to baltimore, now if they get rid of lewis, i might be able to stomach them.[/quote]

lol...

SC Skins Fan 04-25-2009 06:41 PM

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[quote=The Goat;550370]I hope he stays healthy and Blache finds a way to fit him into our system well. It's unclear to me where they will put him. Long term i think Orakpo's best chance of making an impact is RDE...but I highly doubt we sit Carter immediately. I can't see the guy playing OLB in our system unless we're going to teach him to cover and make plays in space. And finally i don't see him as a a run-blocking monster at LDE...so again not sure where Orakpo fits but i guess we can say the Skins took the BPA at 13...that's nice.[/quote]

I've been thinking about it (and I haven't seen the presser with Vinny if he said anything) but I actually don't see a reason why Orakpo can't play the LDE position. He is 266, he is strong as hell ... what I am saying is that he is not a 235 lbs. Jason Taylor. In fact, if you read the profile of him on NFL.com it says he might be better suited to the strong side because "he lacks great explosion and pass rush off the edge." I haven't watched full game tapes of the guy, obviously, but it seems to me he can set the edge and offer some pressure from the strong side.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 06:45 PM

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when asked VC said the question would have to be answered by Greg, he(VC) just acquires the players.

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:46 PM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;550377]I've been thinking about it (and I haven't seen the presser with Vinny if he said anything) but I actually don't see a reason why Orakpo can't play the LDE position. He is 266, he is strong as hell ... what I am saying is that he is not a 235 lbs. Jason Taylor. In fact, if you read the profile of him on NFL.com it says he might be better suited to the strong side because "he lacks great explosion and pass rush off the edge." I haven't watched full game tapes of the guy, obviously, but it seems to me he can set the edge and offer some pressure from the strong side.[/quote]

Be the best case scenario if it worked there...I hope his body can take the pounding at LDE.

...was very surprised to hear Ayers is expected to put on another 15 or 20 lbs in the NFL, putting him close to 290lbs. Anybody here that before today?

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:49 PM

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Ok i gotta say it...whoever takes Rey from this point probably gets the best value in the draft. Wells could be that guy too but the injury history isn't comforting.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 06:49 PM

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anybody else surprised by Philly picking another WR in the mold of DeSean Jackson?

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:50 PM

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If the Patriots end up with Rey that's going to be ridiculous. Talk about going from one of the oldest LB corps to one of the youngest (and best).

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:51 PM

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Effing Pats...those a-holes know how to work the draft.

53Fan 04-25-2009 06:51 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550381]anybody else surprised by Philly picking another WR in the mold of DeSean Jackson?[/quote]

Yes. They should have taken Pettigrew.

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:53 PM

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[quote=53Fan;550384]Yes. They should have taken Pettigrew.[/quote]

Can you imagine the 2 TE sets Philly would have run? Scary man, just scary. I think they should have taken Pettigrew as well or Wells cuz after the oft injured Westbrook who's gonna carry that pigskin?

The Goat 04-25-2009 06:55 PM

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DAMN!! The Pack just built a defense.

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 06:57 PM

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So Rey will be the last USC 'backer off the board.

WestCoastSkinsFan 04-25-2009 06:58 PM

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If Rey falls to round 2, I might see us going to get him.

The Goat 04-25-2009 07:00 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550387]So Rey will be the last USC 'backer off the board.[/quote]

Yep. I'm shocked at that and the fact he dropped so far. I mean at this point I have to ask what might have been for us in a trade down scenario to get him and another pick. Oh well...not gonna complain about Orakpo but honestly i don't expect him to be the impact player in our system most are expecting.

RMSkins 04-25-2009 07:00 PM

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I see us using Orakpo as a 2-down SLB and then moving him up to DE on 3rd downs to rush the passer.

itvnetop 04-25-2009 07:00 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550387]So Rey will be the last USC 'backer off the board.[/quote]

There was a reason why I was against drafting Rey-Rey at 13... looks like some other teams thought so too.

Orakpo is the best case scenario for the Skins. I can't believe he dropped to us. I remember watching UT games earlier last season and thinking this guy had to go top 3. The dude is a beast upfield.

jsarno 04-25-2009 07:01 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550387]So Rey will be the last USC 'backer off the board.[/quote]

He's overrated.

RMSkins 04-25-2009 07:02 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550387]So Rey will be the last USC 'backer off the board.[/quote]
Nah, Kaluka Maiava will be the last USC Linebacker off the board.

53Fan 04-25-2009 07:04 PM

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Im surprised the Colts passed on Ziiggy Hood.

The Goat 04-25-2009 07:05 PM

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[quote=RMSkins;550390]I see us using Orakpo as a 2-down SLB and then moving him up to DE on 3rd downs to rush the passer.[/quote]

Yeah that seems to be the conventional wisdom. Two points. Teams still pass on 1st and 2nd down so we're gonna have to teach the kid to cover (probably from scratch) and then he's got to make plays in space. I don't know.

...btw anybody else surprised that after the big 4 no OTs have gone. I thought we'd see at least 7 OL go in the 1st round but w/ Britton, Meredith in there.

The Goat 04-25-2009 07:07 PM

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[quote=jsarno;550392]He's overrated.[/quote]

Gentleman's bet Rey has as good a career as any defensive player taken in this draft...you just don't find many badass inside LBs out there.

CRedskinsRule 04-25-2009 07:10 PM

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The Giants helped themselves I think

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 07:11 PM

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I like the Hakeem Nicks pick by the Giants. I really liked him at NC.

SOUL-SKINS 04-25-2009 07:15 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550404]I like the Hakeem Nicks pick by the Giants. I really liked him at NC.[/quote]

Why do you like that pick....he's going to our arch-rival

SOUL-SKINS 04-25-2009 07:16 PM

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I think Rey is going to the Cards

BleedBurgundy 04-25-2009 07:16 PM

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;550407]Why do you like that pick....he's going to our arch-rival[/quote]


lol, i mean if I were a giants fan, i'd be ecstatic. I'm not a huge college football fan, but I caught a couple of NC games last year and he just stuck out every time. I'll put my skins hat back on now and say "Giants suck!"


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