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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558463]Yeah i saw on espn.com that one of the writers said Bill Cowher would look good in the Burgandy and Gold next yr. the media says these thigs to stir the pot a yr early and if DS went out and signed Bill on as a HC they would be saying DS is the worst owner in the NFL. the man just cant get a break.[/quote]

To be honest, at the rate Bill Cowher wins Championships, he'll never succeed here. It took him 15 years to win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh. 15 years. Do you really believe that Snyder or this impatient fanbase, as it has become, would allow such failure? I certainly don't. Names mean nothing around here. Win now is our motto. If you don't, we'll replace you with someone *cough cough* who will. :yeahright

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Regardless of how JC does id like to see Zorn stick around just for the simple fact that im tired of havin a new HC every 3 yrs. If he does go we need to bring in a young prospect. We dodged a bullet already, you know we interviewed Josh McDaniels last yr? WHEW. lol. not sayin he wont be good in the long run but he hasnt started out very well

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I admit i wsnt crazy about the Zorn hire, but im givin the man a chance to prove himself. but i dont want a shanahan,cowher,holmgren as a HC, they would be a temp HC lookin for one last check before they leave the game for good. so if we do lose Zorn we need to do it right and get a young hopeful and let him bring in his own staff.

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[quote=Missin21;558478]If you are responding to my post, then allow me to elaborate. I don't consider those who like Colt Brennan to be haters. The people who do nothing BUT bash JC until they are blue in the face, the people who use irrational arguments & don't think about the fact that JC is not the only player on the field, yet any other QB will do...those are the haters. If you do that, then you can consider yourself one.

I like Colt, but he hasn't even proven to be a good QB against anyone EXCEPT 3rd & 4th stringers in Pre-season. Maybe this year, he'll improve like I hope JC does & becomes a great back-up for JC. But my problem is that in all my years as a Redskins fan, who is always the fans' favorite QB? The back-up. Always has been, seemingly always will be. I have no problem with Colt Brennan.

What I do have a problem with is the lack of patience & understanding in this fanbase & the apparent need to destroy everything we've worked for just to see if the next guy will work, because the guy in charge now isn't cutting it. :doh: It's ridiculous. I have said this numerous times & will say it numerous times, even tho I know only the people with rational thought will understand this. No team can win anything when they operate like we have. When you have a revolving door of coaches & QBs & there is no steady ground for anyone to stand on, nothing can get going. We change coaches, we change QBs...when was the last time we had the same starting QB 5 years in a row? When was the last time we had a coach that was here for more than 5 years THAT ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING? That's because we change things up so much.

You do realize that every time we have to start over again, that's another 2-5 years that we have to wait for a championship...at least. And at the rate our revolving door swings, we are NEVER going to win anything. Nor do we deserve to until we settle down & actually allow someone to develop into the starting position. The haters will never allow something like that because the haters want everything RIGHT NOW & it just doesn't work that way.

Name me the last SPORTS franchise that changed things up like we do & actually won something out of it. And how long ago was that, anyway?[/quote]

Very well thought out, and very well said.

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its retarted how Danny Snyder just watched the Broncos organization turn into a zoo over the same type of QB controversy.

Then he created the same type of controversy for us.

Thanks Dan. Way to get Jason ready.

i hope Campbell stays. i could give a shit what the naysayers think at this point.

do i think hell return?? IDK.

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[quote=Missin21;558478]If you are responding to my post, then allow me to elaborate. I don't consider those who like Colt Brennan to be haters. The people who do nothing BUT bash JC until they are blue in the face, the people who use irrational arguments & don't think about the fact that JC is not the only player on the field, yet any other QB will do...those are the haters. If you do that, then you can consider yourself one.

I like Colt, but he hasn't even proven to be a good QB against anyone EXCEPT 3rd & 4th stringers in Pre-season. Maybe this year, he'll improve like I hope JC does & becomes a great back-up for JC. But my problem is that in all my years as a Redskins fan, who is always the fans' favorite QB? The back-up. Always has been, seemingly always will be. I have no problem with Colt Brennan.

What I do have a problem with is the lack of patience & understanding in this fanbase & the apparent need to destroy everything we've worked for just to see if the next guy will work, because the guy in charge now isn't cutting it. :doh: It's ridiculous. I have said this numerous times & will say it numerous times, even tho I know only the people with rational thought will understand this. No team can win anything when they operate like we have. When you have a revolving door of coaches & QBs & there is no steady ground for anyone to stand on, nothing can get going. We change coaches, we change QBs...when was the last time we had the same starting QB 5 years in a row? When was the last time we had a coach that was here for more than 5 years THAT ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING? That's because we change things up so much.

[B]You do realize that every time we have to start over again, that's another 2-5 years that we have to wait for a championship...at least. And at the rate our revolving door swings, we are NEVER going to win anything. Nor do we deserve to until we settle down & actually allow someone to develop into the starting position.[/B] The haters will never allow something like that because the haters want everything RIGHT NOW & it just doesn't work that way.

Name me the last SPORTS franchise that changed things up like we do & actually won something out of it. And how long ago was that, anyway?[/quote]Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?

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[quote=Redskin Jim;558647]Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?[/quote]

:laughing- Really Redskin Jim. The nerve of that guy. :)

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[quote=53Fan;558651]:laughing- Really Redskin Jim. The nerve of that guy. :)[/quote]
LOL, Thanks 53. I was just in your home town yesterday.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;558647]Well that Sir is just unAmerican. What red blooded American would work hard, invest sweat equity, and exert patience in order to reap the fruits of their labors?[/quote]

Don't worry, I heard Obama was putting a cap on the number of wins a team could get, any additional would be given to the last place team in the division (if the division is equal they would be spread to conference and then league)

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HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558690]HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan[/quote]

Here is the link btw. I think that is what I said like six pages ago, but I'm also saying give him a second year in the offense. The first example was clearly a bad read; the second you had a saftey shading over the top and I think that was Devin Thomas so I wonder what role that played (Cutler probably would have made that throw); the third doesn't look like there were a whole lot of options but he could have taken a shot. Clearly he needs to push the ball more down the field. It would be nice if there was some way for fans to get coaches tape so we could look at some of these things ourselves.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81069cc4/Can-Campbell-get-it-done]NFL Videos: Can Campbell get it done?[/url]

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558690]HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and [B]EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down[/B]. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and [B]he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down[/B]. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan[/quote]

You do realize you contradict yourself here, right? If he has the worst completion percentage on third downs, and yet he is going for the safe throw which he was completing for 5.7yds somewhere the stats breakdown. I don't think anyone argues that JC hasn't been timid at times when avoiding INTs, moreso that the timidity is a result of two main factors
- the effects of JG, and JZ drilling ball security first
- the lack of confidence that his receivers were running the routes as they were supposed to.

This year is absolutely his year to show confidence in routes and getting the ball into the tighter spots. I don't think he can't do this, but he does need to step up and show it.
Given all that, calling for Collins - a perennial backup, or Brennan, a 2nd year 3rd stringer, is just change for change sake, not because of any real tangible improvement.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;558686]Don't worry, I heard Obama was putting a cap on the number of wins a team could get, any additional would be given to the last place team in the division (if the division is equal they would be spread to conference and then league)[/quote]
As it should be... Comrad:Flush:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;558694]You do realize you contradict yourself here, right? If he has the worst completion percentage on third downs, and yet he is going for the safe throw which he was completing for 5.7yds somewhere the stats breakdown. I don't think anyone argues that JC hasn't been timid at times when avoiding INTs, moreso that the timidity is a result of two main factors
- the effects of JG, and JZ drilling ball security first
- the lack of confidence that his receivers were running the routes as they were supposed to.

This year is absolutely his year to show confidence in routes and getting the ball into the tighter spots. I don't think he can't do this, but he does need to step up and show it.
Given all that, calling for Collins - a perennial backup, or Brennan, a 2nd year 3rd stringer, is just change for change sake, not because of any real tangible improvement.[/quote]
Bottom line is JC is our best chance to win this year. Collins and Brennan are a step backwards. If JC is unable to step up this year, all things considered, We will probably (most likely) go another direction at qb.

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It is what it is but the stats dont lie. JC's numbers on 3rd down are horrid. 5.9 yards an att, and his comp % was like 58 which isnt bad as a % but as a league avg it was one of the worst.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558698]It is what it is but [B]the stats dont lie[/B]. JC's numbers on 3rd down are horrid. 5.9 yards an att, and his comp % was like 58 which isnt bad as a % but as a league avg it was one of the worst.[/quote]

They don't lie, they just tell you what you want to hear.

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Im just sayin he needs to step up. and ppl need to stop acting offended when others call for a change. Its not like ppl are hatin on him for no reason.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558700]Im just sayin he needs to step up. and ppl need to stop acting offended when others call for a change. Its not like ppl are hatin on him for no reason.[/quote]
If it just stopped at saying he needs to step up, great EVERYONE agrees.

The rest doesn't make sense.
- You don't call for a change at qb when you have no one to replace him with.
- ppl hatin on him have been repeatedly shown that he has improved every season, and yet they continue to hate. how uncivil is that.
- This season costs us little to give him the chance to step up, but changing right now just puts Zorn back at square 1.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;558657]LOL, Thanks 53. I was just in your home town yesterday.[/quote]

For one day?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558690]HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan[/quote]

I was one of the guys last year who kept screaming, " Go deep damnit! At least try!" But after thinking about it, JC was learning and trying to do what he was taught, and his receivers weren't always doing what they were suppose to. He should be more comfortable and confident this year and deserves the chance to show improvement. If it's a repeat of last year, then I'll be right there with you. I personally think he'll step up. I don't think anyone here is "married" to the guy, I would just like to see what he can do in the same system for more than a year. Anyone who has had to learn as many offenses as he has in the last few years obviously has some intelligence and he does possess some outstanding physical tools. I think we'll have a clearer and more accurate picture of Jason Campbell after this year.

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The rest doesn't make sense.
- You don't call for a change at qb when you have no one to replace him with.
- ppl hatin on him have been repeatedly shown that he has improved every season, and yet they continue to hate. how uncivil is that.
- This season costs us little to give him the chance to step up, but changing right now just puts Zorn back at square 1.

There was a guy named Collins who led this team to the playoffs, we avg'd 25 pts a game over last 4 games we won to make it to the postseason. So i wouldnt say the guy is garbage.
yeah he has improved each season, at a very slow rate. someone said at this rate by the time he is 30 he will throw 25td's.
how are we back at square one? all of the QB's have the same experience in the offense. If JC struggles the season is in jeopardy anyways, may as well let someone else get a shot so they can be ready for next yr if we dont draft another QB. and even if we do that person wont start day one.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558712]
There was a guy named Collins who led this team to the playoffs, we avg'd 25 pts a game over last 4 games we won to make it to the postseason. So i wouldnt say the guy is garbage.
yeah he has improved each season, at a very slow rate. someone said at this rate by the time he is 30 he will throw 25td's.
how are we back at square one? all of the QB's have the same experience in the offense. If JC struggles the season is in jeopardy anyways, may as well let someone else get a shot so they can be ready for next yr if we dont draft another QB. and even if we do that person wont start day one.[/quote]
I am pretty sure every pooint has been asked/answered multiple times.

JC is gonna start this season, and if at the end he is who you say he is, he is gone. If he is who we hope he is, we will all be celebrating.

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physically JC is very talented. but that alone wont do it. There are many guys out there who can throw a mile that are not in the league anymore. This is not an easy offense to learn and i expected some growin pains at the beginning of the season but towards the end of the season you wanted to see some growth in the offense from the QB. So hopefully this is the yr JC comes out and proves me wrong, for the good of the team id like to see it.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558698]It is what it is but the stats dont lie. JC's numbers on 3rd down are horrid. 5.9 yards an att, and his comp % was like 58 which isnt bad as a % but as a league avg it was one of the worst.[/quote]

I don't think the issue is so much how he's doing on 3rd and long. I think the bigger question, as Zorn himself indicated last season, is what can we do to avoid even getting into those 3rd and long situations in the first place?

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man i think ive said this 10 times now but to me theres enough evidence on both sides of this argument (probaly why it wont go away ala suisham a few years ago were some thought we needed to upgrade while others pointed to his top 10 accuracy rating and that we havent had a legit kicker since chip and we should give a young kicker some time to improve himself [which was infalted due to JG not sending him out to kick anything over 45 yds but i digress]).

. . but no matter which side you are on i think most can agree that JC has this year to quiet the doubters and reward his backers.

go skins!!!

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[quote=53Fan;558707]For one day?[/quote]
I was in Virginia Beach visiting family for a week, but went out to deep creek to see a friend.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;558804]I was in Virginia Beach visiting family for a week, but went out to deep creek to see a friend.[/quote]

Deep Creek? That's where I live and graduated from. You got mail dude.

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[quote=53Fan;558806]Deep Creek? That's where I live and graduated from.[/quote]
Cool, I'm from VB, graduated from Cox. My friend is from here, (New Orleans) but decided to stay there after getting out of the navy.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;558808]Cool, I'm from VB, graduated from Cox. My friend is from here, (New Orleans) but decided to stay there after getting out of the navy.[/quote]

New Orleans has been granted the Super Bowl in 2013.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558712]The rest doesn't make sense.
- You don't call for a change at qb when you have no one to replace him with.
- ppl hatin on him have been repeatedly shown that he has improved every season, and yet they continue to hate. how uncivil is that.
- This season costs us little to give him the chance to step up, but changing right now just puts Zorn back at square 1.

There was a guy named Collins who led this team to the playoffs, we avg'd 25 pts a game over last 4 games we won to make it to the postseason. So i wouldnt say the guy is garbage.

how are we back at square one? all of the QB's have the same experience in the offense. If JC struggles the season is in jeopardy anyways, may as well let someone else get a shot so they can be ready for next yr if we dont draft another QB. and even if we do that person wont start day one.[/quote]


Ok, first, Collins was in Al Saunders' system for, what 15 years before coming here? As a back-up, he did a great job. Collins doesn't have what it takes to make it thru a full season as he showed in the post-season after, what, 6 games?!

Second, all the QBs have NOT had the same experience in this offense. Regardless of what YOU want, Campbell is the starter, so Campbell gets probably 90% of the snaps with the first offense in practices. Collins probably gets about 8-8.5% & then Brennan gets the rest. You think Brennan is going to have his timing down with the WRs with only 1.5-2% of the snaps with this offense? Get real. AND, there is probably more of a reason then you would like to admit, except that your blind hatred for Campbell will only let you see what you want to see, for why Brennan & Collins are still backing up JC. I'm sure money has something to do with it, but I have a hard time believing that this FO wouldn't push for one of the others to start if they showed they could handle the job OVER Campbell. Which tells me that they can't just yet.

[quote]yeah he has improved each season, at a very slow rate. someone said at this rate by the time he is 30 he will throw 25td's.[/quote]


:doh: Someone said...? are you serious? Someone says a lot of stupid shit. Someone said that we should all jump off a bridge after the way last year went....seems like we didn't listen to them then. But now, "someone said" that JC will throw 25td's by the time he is 30 so OF COURSE it's gospel. Because it suits your view point. Puh-lease.


Listen, I am not a Campbell enthusiast like you are a Campbell hater, but clearly your anger towards him is blinding what good sense you may actually have left. You need to take a few deep breaths, step back & allow him to develop. Plain & simple. Otherwise, I would suggest finding another team to root for because CLEARLY your hatred for Campbell is distorting your judgement. We need stability here, which is something we have thrown by the wayside for years. Stability is the only thing that will bring a Championship back to Washington.

I figure that if a guy like Ben Roethlisburger can do it with the worst QB rating in Super Bowl history (& let's face it, he's not much better during the regular season), then he does a faceplant into "someone's" windshield (something that he would have been laughed out of town for here) & guess what...? He wins another Championship...for the same team? Give Campbell a chance. God damn, you make it sound as if he came to your house, kicked your dog, impregnated your 15 year old daughter & spray painted "your mother's a whore" all over your kitchen. Calm down. You arguments against him are starting to sound foolish when you start quoting "someone said..." :doh:

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558715]physically JC is very talented. but that alone wont do it. There are many guys out there who can throw a mile that are not in the league anymore. This is not an easy offense to learn and i expected some growin pains at the beginning of the season but towards the end of the season you wanted to see some growth in the offense from the QB. So hopefully this is the yr JC comes out and proves me wrong, for the good of the team id like to see it.[/quote]

Yeah, the only thing you are convincing ME of at this point is that you WANT Campbell to fail for the simple reason it will give you the power to say "I was right!" I really have no belief that you want to see Campbell perform well, with the way you consistently argue against him with the silliest of arguments & points that are mustered by hearsay & rumors. I don't get how you can go from one breath talking about how bad he was last year & then turn around in the next breath & talk about how "this is not an easy offense to learn." Well, DUUUUUH! :doh: But, anyone but Campbell, right? You are starting to chase your own tail, my misguided friend.

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[quote=Missin21;558816]Ok, first, Collins was in Al Saunders' system for, what 15 years before coming here? As a back-up, he did a great job. Collins doesn't have what it takes to make it thru a full season as he showed in the post-season after, what, 6 games?!

Second, all the QBs have NOT had the same experience in this offense. Regardless of what YOU want, Campbell is the starter, so Campbell gets probably 90% of the snaps with the first offense in practices. Collins probably gets about 8-8.5% & then Brennan gets the rest. You think Brennan is going to have his timing down with the WRs with only 1.5-2% of the snaps with this offense? Get real. AND, there is probably more of a reason then you would like to admit, except that your blind hatred for Campbell will only let you see what you want to see, for why Brennan & Collins are still backing up JC. I'm sure money has something to do with it, but I have a hard time believing that this FO wouldn't push for one of the others to start if they showed they could handle the job OVER Campbell. Which tells me that they can't just yet.




:doh:[B] Someone said...? are you serious? Someone says a lot of stupid shit. Someone said that we should all jump off a bridge after the way last year went....seems like we didn't listen to them then. But now, "someone said" that JC will throw 25td's by the time he is 30 so OF COURSE it's gospel.[/B] Because it suits your view point. Puh-lease.


Listen, I am not a Campbell enthusiast like you are a Campbell hater, but clearly your anger towards him is blinding what good sense you may actually have left. You need to take a few deep breaths, step back & allow him to develop. Plain & simple. Otherwise, I would suggest finding another team to root for because CLEARLY your hatred for Campbell is distorting your judgement. We need stability here, which is something we have thrown by the wayside for years. Stability is the only thing that will bring a Championship back to Washington.

I figure that if a guy like Ben Roethlisburger can do it with the worst QB rating in Super Bowl history (& let's face it, he's not much better during the regular season), then he does a faceplant into "someone's" windshield (something that he would have been laughed out of town for here) & guess what...? He wins another Championship...for the same team? Give Campbell a chance. God damn, you make it sound as if he came to your house, kicked your dog, impregnated your 15 year old daughter & spray painted "your mother's a whore" all over your kitchen. Calm down. You arguments against him are starting to sound foolish when you start quoting "someone said..." :doh:[/quote]

:lol:. Seriously, I don't understand why some people want to get rid of JC, the guys had 5 different offenses to learn including college, something I couldn't do. I hope JC takes us to the Superbowl just to shut-up some people here. Just give him a chance, and if he's not good this year we don't re-sign.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;558706]If it just stopped at saying he needs to step up, great EVERYONE agrees.

The rest doesn't make sense.
- You don't call for a change at qb when you have no one to replace him with.
- ppl hatin on him have been repeatedly shown that he has improved every season, and yet they continue to hate. how uncivil is that.
- This season costs us little to give him the chance to step up, but changing right now just puts Zorn back at square 1.[/quote]


EXACTLY! With all the nonsense that is swirling about how Coach Zs job is hanging in the balance, if he starts someone else now, it will make Z look stupid & like he doesn't know what he's doing AND that he has no confidence in himself, much less his QB situation. Then, next year, Snyder is shopping for another coach & the merry-go-round continues. If we stay the course we are on now, Z may have a shot at keeping his job & this team may have a shot at winning something sooner rather then later. THE MERRY-GO-ROUND MUST STOP NOW!

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[quote=Missin21;558819]EXACTLY! With all the nonsense that is swirling about how Coach Zs job is hanging in the balance, if he starts someone else now, it will make Z look stupid & like he doesn't know what he's doing AND that he has no confidence in himself, much less his QB situation. Then, next year, Snyder is shopping for another coach & the merry-go-round continues. If we stay the course we are on now, Z may have a shot at keeping his job & this team may have a shot at winning something sooner rather then later. THE MERRY-GO-ROUND MUST STOP NOW![/quote]

Unfortunately because of the recent history of our team a large segment of our young fanbase has never experienced a winner and somehow feel like they deserve or are owed to see it.

As a result they are perpetually miserable and think that ONE MORE CHANGE will end the misery without attaching any modicum of logic or common sense to it. It's pretty much target practice for their blame, either Vinny, Danny or JC.

The full irony is the thing that most people rip Snyder for, impulsiveness and impatience, are the same things they are advocating in benching JC or starting Colt to 'see what we have'.

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With a vengence I hope.

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IMO JC is gone eitherway. You think he wants to play for DS after he tried to trade hm and lied to him? Either he does well and tells DS to stick it or he tanks and he is released. After the Cutler deal fell through DS had him in his office and said youre my QB but what he really was thinking was youre my QB, now can you hurry along? i have a dinner tonight with VC,Coach Zorn and Mark Sanchez.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558840]IMO JC is gone eitherway. You think he wants to play for DS after he tried to trade hm and lied to him? Either he does well and tells DS to stick it or he tanks and he is released. [/quote]


Interesting. That's the first thing you said that I can actually agree with. Of course, I stated this very thing almost word for word some time ago....and again in this thread, now that I think about it, also some time ago. But I digress.

I don't believe Campbell will be here next year either. I am saddened by this because I think this FO screwed the pooch...again. Acting like they were in sudden desperation mode for a QB with Cutler & then with Sanchez...:doh:...it was ridiculous & pathetic. And Jason would be well within his rights to light it up this season & then say goodbye. Not just to the FO, which treated him like crap, but also to the haters in the fanbase which treated him far worse IMO.

Re: Will Jason Campbell return?
 

I tend to think JC will be more valuable to the Redskins than to any other franchise if he lights it up this season, meaning his best contract offer comes from Snyder. To really stick it to the lil Danny Jason will likely have to take less money...that would be worth the watching.

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[quote=The Goat;558849]I tend to think JC will be more valuable to the Redskins than to any other franchise if he lights it up this season, meaning his best contract offer comes from Snyder. To really stick it to the lil Danny Jason will likely have to take less money...that would be worth the watching.[/quote]

Well, to be honest, I can envision a scenario where both Dallas & Philly will be in need of a QB. Where else could a QB go for similar money & be able to tell his former team to stick other then there? Not saying it's going to happen, just saying I could SEE it happening.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;558690]HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan[/quote]

I don't know why no one else has brought this up but who's Hank???