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CRedskinsRule 08-04-2009 12:54 PM

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They are getting battered by our DLine, can't wait till that DLine gets to batter our opponents.

DBUCHANON101 08-04-2009 01:48 PM

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Under the watchful eye of Jim Zorn and Chris Meidt, the quarterbacks gathered at midfield and took turns throwing the ball into a small hoop in he middle of a net.
The drill tested quarterback accuracy, both in the pocket and on the move.
Jason Campbell was the least accurate, missing the hoop in the net on four throws that I saw.
Colt Brennan did the best, nailing the throw in the hoop on two occasions.
Todd Collins hit on one of his throws, as did Chase Daniel.
Colt Brennan’s first throw of 11-on-11s is a crisp pass to Marko Mitchell.
Anthony Alridge, giving up a lot of size given his 5-9, 175-pound frame, is able to slow a blitzing Chris Wilson in the backfield. Brennan scrambles left to avoid Wilson’s blitz and decided to run with the ball.
Colt Brennan rolls right and quickly throws to Fred Davis, who catches the ball at the 2-yard line and swerves into the end zone.
Brennan drops back to pass and seems to hesitate. He starts to roll right again. This appears to draw the ire of Jim Zorn: "What are you looking for?"
Probably had a misread on the last one but otherwise Not a bad day for Colt.

Ruhskins 08-04-2009 01:53 PM

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From [URL="http://twitter.com/RedskinsDotCom"]Redskins.com Twitter...[/URL]

Best play of practice: Jason Campbell lets one fly and Antwaan Randle El is wide open. He catches it for a long TD, earning applause.

Sweet...

Monkeydad 08-04-2009 02:19 PM

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[quote=70Chip;571848]This was definitely part of it. Samuel's was having the devil's own day with Orakpo and Haynesworth was giving two men all they could handle every time. Andre Carter was also coming free a couple of times.

In terms of Campbell's performance, I'm totally chill. I think he's the best QB we have. I just don't think he had a paricularly good day, even when you take the O-line into account. Remember that the pass rushers run past and play continues, so even when the O-line got blown it was still basically a 7 on 7 drill.[/quote]

Great...then the rest of the league's D-lines (except for the NJ Giants) will be a piece of cake.

Our o-line gets to practice against one of the best defenses in the NFL...that's beneficial, or it should be.

redsk1 08-04-2009 02:22 PM

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[quote=Buster;572410]Great...then the rest of the league's D-lines (except for the NJ Giants) will be a piece of cake.

Our o-line gets to practice against one of the best defenses in the NFL...that's beneficial, or it should be.[/quote]

That's a positive. The problem is that the D lines in Philly and Dallas are very good too.

44Deezel 08-04-2009 02:28 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;572404]From [URL="http://twitter.com/RedskinsDotCom"]Redskins.com Twitter...[/URL]

Best play of practice: Jason Campbell lets one fly and Antwaan Randle El is wide open. He catches it for a long TD, earning applause.

Sweet...[/quote]

Did he catch it in stride or did he have to wait on it?

DBUCHANON101 08-04-2009 02:45 PM

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ARE wide open, did the defender fall down or was it a blown coverage?

SmootSmack 08-04-2009 02:46 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;572414]Did he catch it in stride or did he have to wait on it?[/quote]

He caught it in stride apparently

Ruhskins 08-04-2009 03:53 PM

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Good Twitter [URL="http://twitter.com/RickMaese"]post by Rick Maese[/URL]...

[quote]So what do they do with the open roster spot? I say, audition the biggest fan at tomorrow morning's practice for spot on the offensive line.[/quote]

firstdown 08-04-2009 04:35 PM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;572418]ARE wide open, did the defender fall down or was it a blown coverage?[/quote]

What happened is JC dropped back and started looking all around for an open WR. After about 10 seconds the man covering ARE falls to the ground and after ARE started jumping up and down while waving his arms JC finally spotted him. He throws the ball his way but its way over thrown so ARE chases it down and catches the ball in stride.

SmootSmack 08-04-2009 04:47 PM

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[YT]wPurdADvyXM[/YT]

vallin21 08-04-2009 04:55 PM

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[url=http://www.twincities.com/ci_12989150]Minnesota Vikings to trade or release WR Aundrae Allison - TwinCities.com[/url]

I was reading this article and I think we should definitely take a look at this guy, who could compete for the #5 WR. If we signed him we could release Willams who isn't going to be ready until 4-6 wks and give us another available roster spot to sign a vet OL.

This kid has some serious return skills

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d804b4af7/WK-13-Can-t-Miss-Play-Allison-KO-return]NFL Videos: Can't-Miss Play: Aundrae Allison KO return[/url]

SmootSmack 08-04-2009 04:58 PM

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[quote=vallin21;572473][url=http://www.twincities.com/ci_12989150]Minnesota Vikings to trade or release WR Aundrae Allison - TwinCities.com[/url]

I was reading this article and I think we should definitely take a look at this guy, who could compete for the #5 WR and can return punts. If we signed him we could release Willams who isn't going to be ready until 4-6 wks and give us another available roster spot to sign a vet OL.[/quote]

I think he's already been waived

Lotus 08-04-2009 05:29 PM

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Getting hurt is a blow to Mike Williams. He needs time on the field as much as anyone.

an23dy 08-04-2009 05:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;572467][YT]wPurdADvyXM[/YT][/quote]

Is this what everybody was talking about in terms of accuracy with the QBs and Campbell not hitting any? If it is then it's even less an issue than I thought, only a couple throws and you can be enough on target and not get it in that pocket, plus it's not even a game simulated drill, no O-Line, timing, etc.

GTripp0012 08-04-2009 05:59 PM

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Agreed on Allison. Not sure how much we like Trent Shelton and Marko Mitchell, but Aundrae Allison could return punts for us.

skinsfan_nn 08-04-2009 07:28 PM

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Zorn on Colts progress.

[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-10-50/Redskins--Zorn-talks-Brennan--tweeting.html]Redskins' Zorn talks Brennan, tweeting - NFL Nation - ESPN[/url]

an23dy 08-05-2009 12:01 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;572499]Agreed on Allison. Not sure how much we like Trent Shelton and Marko Mitchell, but Aundrae Allison could return punts for us.[/quote]

Allison was more of a kickoff returner. Don't know who was ahead of him, but he's only returned 9 punts and his average was 6.4, while ARE's is 6.5. I don't know how much of an upgrade it is. Maybe it makes Rock more expendable so Dorsey or Alridge could make the team and return punts.

skins89moss 08-05-2009 05:51 AM

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Its not time to panic Redskin fans. The coaches are just being carefull with our players to make sure we dont have any serious injuries. Our vets are just getting rest so some of the Rookies and younger guys can get some reps. This is a long season so no need to push our proven players who we all know will be starting this season. Lets hope we don't have any training camp or preseason, season injuires to our players. We can't afford to lose any of our starting O-Lineman to injury this year. But of course this is football so our backups have to be ready to step in and dont miss a beat.

SmootSmack 08-05-2009 09:59 AM

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/quick-take-on-mike-williams.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Quick Take on Mike Williams[/url]

redsk1 08-05-2009 10:06 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;572667][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/quick-take-on-mike-williams.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Quick Take on Mike Williams[/URL][/quote]


Ouch. That hurts. I was rooting for the guy, but maybe it's wishful thinking.

Maybe he can be on the practice squad or a short list of people to call if we're desparate. It doesn't sound like he would fare to well against the likes of D Ware, J Tuck, Trent Cole. Damn.

freddyg12 08-05-2009 10:07 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;572667][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/quick-take-on-mike-williams.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Quick Take on Mike Williams[/URL][/quote]

This is very discouraging. It's not that I thought MW would come in & immediately look good in the first week of camp, but given the RT situation, can the Skins really afford a 'project' on the active roster?

Given his weight loss & the way he's playing now, if RI is accurate, he'll need several months to adjust.

dmek25 08-05-2009 10:12 AM

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im not sure what people were expecting of him. Christ, about a month ago the guy weighed over 4 bills

CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009 10:15 AM

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Weren't we expecting this from MW. He is a project with the hope of being on the field around Nov/Dec as a crunch. I would love to see him come out and flatten Daniels (no offense to him obviously) but I didn't expect it. If he pans out its a great story, if not then we gave another long shot the shot. One day we will hit it and dang the world will be good.

redsk1 08-05-2009 11:52 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;572676]Weren't we expecting this from MW. He is a project with the hope of being on the field around Nov/Dec as a crunch. I would love to see him come out and flatten Daniels (no offense to him obviously) but I didn't expect it. If he pans out its a great story, if not then we gave another long shot the shot. One day we will hit it and dang the world will be good.[/quote]

I really wasn't expecting him to come out and be a lights out RT. I don't know that i was expecting him to be downright horrible either. I guess i was hoping for a guy that shows some signs of good o line play and would be a ok backup or potential starter down the road. He's a former top draft pick not too long ago, so he's gotta have some talent.

I am a little disappointed that he's been so bad by all accounts. Maybe he'll get his strength back over time though. We'll see.

Monkeydad 08-05-2009 12:09 PM

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[quote=redsk1;572411]That's a positive. The problem is that the D lines in Philly and Dallas are very good too.[/quote]

Good compared to the rest of the league, but not to ours.

MTK 08-05-2009 12:12 PM

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A little disappointed with the MW news but I guess we need to check our expectations of a guy who's been out of football for 4 years and needed to drop 100 lbs just to get down to playing weight. Gotta wonder if he can show anything this preseason to prove he's worth the roster spot.

Trample the Elderly 08-05-2009 12:31 PM

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We'll see how good these guys are when they square up against New England, Pittsburgh, and the Ravens. The situation is suspect until then IMO.

Chico23231 08-05-2009 12:39 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;572667][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/quick-take-on-mike-williams.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Quick Take on Mike Williams[/url][/quote]

No surprise with this story. And now other bumps and bruises with the O-line today with Thomas, Heyer, and Rabach...I know its early, but this has been my fear ALL offseason: health and age of the Oline and the FO continued ignorance of the issue. Praying this will not linger and all five starters will be ready for the start of the season.

SmootSmack 08-05-2009 12:45 PM

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Bumps and bruises are to be expected and we shouldn't get carried away. I would guarantee that guys like Grimm, Bostic, Lachey etc. had bumps and bruises early in training camp that would keep them out of some practices (often as a precautionary measure) but since we weren't getting hourly updates we probably never realized it.

I think the front office could have and should have done more to address the O-Line this off-season. But let's not pretend they didn't address it. They signed two starting guards in Dockery and Bridges, they picked up Edwin Williams as a UDFA (a guy many thought could have been drafted). They drafted Rinehart last year and he seems to be developing, albeit at a slower than desired pace. Yes they're taking a gamble on Mike Williams (but the risk is pretty minimal), and they may have more faith in Heyer than others but they have taken steps to address the OL. They just need to do a bit more

KLHJ2 08-05-2009 12:53 PM

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They had to know that he is a project. He is going to make the 53 man roster because he is still better at blocking than air, at least he can get in the way. Right now the Skins don't have much better options available. I say keep him around for at least a season or 2 to see if he can get back to form.

Does anyone know if he is eligible for practice squad? If he is, that could be an option for the time being, but that wold still leave us thin at OT.

CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009 12:57 PM

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on a slightly less serious note, as long as on 3rd and inches at the goal line he can push the pile forward, I will still be happy

GMScud 08-05-2009 01:04 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;572751]Bumps and bruises are to be expected and we shouldn't get carried away. I would guarantee that guys like Grimm, Bostic, Lachey etc. had bumps and bruises early in training camp that would keep them out of some practices (often as a precautionary measure) but since we weren't getting hourly updates we probably never realized it.

I think the front office could have and should have done more to address the O-Line this off-season. But let's not pretend they didn't address it. They signed two starting guards in Dockery and Bridges, they picked up Edwin Williams as a UDFA (a guy many thought could have been drafted). They drafted Rinehart last year and he seems to be developing, albeit at a slower than desired pace. Yes they're taking a gamble on Mike Williams (but the risk is pretty minimal), and they may have more faith in Heyer than others but they have taken steps to address the OL. They just need to do a bit more[/quote]

I'm with you on Edwin Williams. I thought from the day we signed him that he had a fantastic shot to make the roster. If this past draft wasn't the deepest for centers maybe ever, Williams definitely would have been drafted.

As far as Mike Williams, I was hoping for the best, but pretty much expecting this. Hard to expect a guy to lose 100lbs and play at a decent level against a great D-line despite not having seen live action since 2005. Oh well. Good story, and maybe with a lot more work he can contribute for us or someone else later this season or next year.

However, if we're going to cut bait on this experiment we need to do so right away, and get another capable body in the fold and up to speed asap. We can't afford to eff around on the O-line. If he's not even close to being NFL ready, get him outta there.

MTK 08-06-2009 09:56 AM

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Today's report

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Training_Camp_Practice_Report_For_Aug__6_45818.jsp]Training Camp Practice Report For Aug. 6[/url]

SmootSmack 08-06-2009 10:34 AM

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Devin Thomas hurt again...everybody panic!!!!!

T.O.Killa 08-06-2009 11:01 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;573064]Devin Thomas hurt again...everybody panic!!!!![/quote]
Did he get hurt today, Again

Ruhskins 08-06-2009 11:03 AM

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Glad to see both Tryon and Jarmon doing well in training camp.

KLHJ2 08-06-2009 11:04 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;573064]Devin Thomas hurt again...everybody panic!!!!![/quote]

I thought that they were just holding him out some more so that he doesn't pull it.

mredskins 08-06-2009 11:10 AM

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Devin Thomas Limps Off (Updated)

Devin Thomas came up limping after catching a pass from Colt Brennan. Thomas went to the trainers' tent and emerged limping noticeably with his right leg wrapped. Doesn't look good. Can't tell if it's his calf or knee, but my immediate reaction, based solely on his gait is that we won't see him on the field for a couple of days.

Malcolm Kelly is practicing and looks fine. He appears to be getting a few more reps. Of course, he wasn't hurt; he was just getting the afternoons off as a precaution.

After practice ended at 10:26, Jim Zorn met with reporters and indicated that Thomas' hammy is not pulled. The team is just being cautious with him and wants to make sure nothing gets aggravated.

Zorn added that Santana Moss slightly tweaked his hamstring and had ice on it after practice.

Lotus 08-06-2009 11:11 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;573072]Glad to see both Tryon and Jarmon doing well in training camp.[/quote]

Agreed. They're saying some good things about Rinehart, too.


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