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Someone else the other day was talking about renting billboard space on 495 close to FedEx with the same message....

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[quote=firstdown;618107]First off the people who think that DS does not loose money when the team is loosing no nothing about Business. Yes, he will still make money but he will not make near as much as he would if he was winning games and going to the playoffs. [B]So to say he does not care about winning because he only cares about making money makes no sense as the two go hand and hand.[/B] Just take our local 7/11 which has a section that sells hats and stuff of different teams. Last year when we were winning all the skins stuff was sold out and this year it looks like they have sold nothing skins related. Now X that by all the places selling skins stuff and it is costing DS a bunch of money.[/quote]

Show me where I said that he doesn't care about winning. Obviously you make more money when you're winning as apposed to losing. My point was that this "Make Snyder sell the team" stuff isn't going to do anything. Snyder doesn't care about us, he has known we don't like him for a long time - nothing new. The only difference is that people are alot louder about it now than ever before. Its a waste of time to put up signs or start websites that try to make him sell the team. The hate should be focused on Vinny - that is something that the fan's voice might actually have an influence in changing.

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[quote=JLW428;618751]Show me where I said that he doesn't care about winning. Obviously you make more money when you're winning as apposed to losing. My point was that this "Make Snyder sell the team" stuff isn't going to do anything. Snyder doesn't care about us, he has known we don't like him for a long time - nothing new. The only difference is that people are alot louder about it now than ever before. Its a waste of time to put up signs or start websites that try to make him sell the team. The hate should be focused on Vinny - that is something that the fan's voice might actually have an influence in changing.[/quote]

I'm not sure the whole aim of "sell our team Danny Boy" is to actually get him to sell. At least I didnt take it that way. I think it's just a cry for him to quit f'ing up the franchise. In other words, to get rid of Vinny and start doing things the right way...or else. Although the whole "or else" is kind of a false threat. Anyway, just my opinion.

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[quote=SkinFanatic;618759]I'm not sure the whole aim of "sell our team Danny Boy" is to actually get him to sell. At least I didnt take it that way. I think it's just a cry for him to quit f'ing up the franchise. In other words, to get rid of Vinny and start doing things the right way...or else. Although the whole "or else" is kind of a false threat. Anyway, just my opinion.[/quote]

mImpetert, who started this, clearly has said in earlier posts that no one realistically expects DS to sell the team due to this.

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[quote=SkinFanatic;618759]I'm not sure the whole aim of "sell our team Danny Boy" is to actually get him to sell. At least I didnt take it that way. I think it's just a cry for him to quit f'ing up the franchise. In other words, to get rid of Vinny and start doing things the right way...or else. Although the whole "or else" is kind of a false threat. Anyway, just my opinion.[/quote]

I totally agree. I guess I would just rather see something like "get the hell out of here Vinny" or "Vinny is a joke". If thats the true message behind "sell our team" then why not just say "get rid of Vinny"?

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It doesn't matter either way. I just realized that I'm getting pissed off over some stupid title to a thread on a blog that is attempting to get the owner of an NFL team to make changes.

The reasoning behind my (and probably everyone elses) short fuse is that we are fed up with the Redskins, and we can't do anything about it. At least thats my realization...

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[quote=JLW428;618768]It doesn't matter either way. I just realized that I'm getting pissed off over some stupid title to a thread on a blog that is attempting to get the owner of an NFL team to make changes.

The reasoning behind my (and probably everyone elses) short fuse is that we are fed up with the Redskins, and we can't do anything about it. At least thats my realization...[/quote]

You could donate 5 bucks and laugh your ass off when you see these stupid ass signs on metro buses and know you were a part of it.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Alright to answer a few things.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We actually wanted to go with a billboard, however; that costs in the neighborhood of 25-40k in the DC area, and there are a totally of zero billboards on 495. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We did not want to use Fire Vinny for several reasons. At the time we started this (a week ago), there was a slight rumor floating around that Vinny may get fired if we lose the philly game. We didn’t want to take the chance that Vinny was already gone and we just raised a bunch of money. Plus in my opinion, and many others, it all starts at the top. Danny is responsible for all of this. I really feel he is. It is his fault we are the Raiders of the NFC, that coaches don’t want to coach for us, that fans get nickeld and dimed out of everything Redskins related, that our team is a bottom 5 team, that we suck, that you cant bring signs to the game, that luxury ticket holders are getting sued because they lost their jobs, that we have no offensive line but have the highest paid player to ever play the game (I like big Al, but whats the point if we have MAYBE 1 offensive lineman that could start almost anywhere else). Bottom line this is Danny’s fault, it starts at the top.[/FONT][/COLOR]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We do not expect Danny to sell the team. I didn’t expect a bb gun for Christmas when I was 7, but I asked for it anyways. Would I like Danny to sell, absolutely. I would be just as satisfied if Danny stopped interfering with OUR team as I would if he sold the team. A ad that reads Sell OUR Team sends a much clearer statement. You don’t get picked up by the media for saying Mr. Snyder Please Change This, Thanks!. This is a AD, not a cover letter, no time for P’s and Q’s. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We started this because soooo many fans were complaining, but not really doing anything. During times like this its great to complain about Synder, Vinny, or Zorn or whoever but at least try to do something. Even if you HATE what we are doing, I encourage to at least set up a Danny Snyder is Awesome! Facebook page (2-5 minutes tops), or a mlmpetert Sucks facebook page. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]One of the main objectives we had was to encourage people to do something rather than just be content with the way things are. Our thoughts are if you think something needs to be done to fix the franchise make a attempt. If you are already thinking that by next August that there is a really really good chance the Skins could go all the way this year….. Well then just know when you are disappointed again that there is always next year.…. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]People are making t shirts, writing blogs, mailing their fan cards in, planning to travel to Atlanta with signs, not buying skins gear, saying they are gonna give up their season tickets, skipping games, and so on and so on. People have had enough! Blame Danny, or Vinny, or Jimmy, but if you don’t do anything right now blame yourself next year.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/FONT][/SIZE]

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[quote=mlmpetert;618785]...
People are making t shirts, writing blogs, mailing their fan cards in, planning to travel to Atlanta with signs, not buying skins gear, saying they are gonna give up their season tickets, skipping games, and so on and so on. People have had enough! Blame Danny, or Vinny, or Jimmy,[B] but if you don’t do anything right now blame yourself next year[/B]....[/quote]

mlmpetert,

sometimes in life, you have to realize you have no control. I don't blame myself for this year, or the next, or the next. The Redskins are not a democracy, Daniel Snyder is the owner of the team. I hope he figures things out, and gets a clue. But either way I'm a Skins fan, that's just the fact.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;618814]mlmpetert,

sometimes in life, you have to realize you have no control. I don't blame myself for this year, or the next, or the next. The Redskins are not a democracy, Daniel Snyder is the owner of the team. I hope he figures things out, and gets a clue. But either way I'm a Skins fan, that's just the fact.[/quote]

we don't have much control but to say we have none isn't true, and to say you will sit back and wtch this go on this year and the next and the next with out doing anything, just doesn't make sense to me. it's like saying you couldn't hammer a nial with your hand so you gave up instead of trying the rock on the ground next to you. while we aren't necessarily doing it the perfect way atleast we are willing to try, and i fell like thats what makes me a fan showing that i care instead of just bitching to my boys

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I was going to send $20 like I said but after readin some of these post drunk I changed my mind. Sorry!!!!!!!! You would of think after reading it drunk I would have snet moe money but it juts seeemed more like childs play.

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[quote=firstdown;618877]I was going to send $20 like I said but after readin some of these post drunk I changed my mind. Sorry!!!!!!!! You would of think after reading it drunk I would have snet moe money but it juts seeemed more like childs play.[/quote]

were you reading here or on redskins.com? cause amazingly i think we have won over even the best of you guys here, and how coulds you not want to be a part of this, it takes no acountabilty(no one will know it was you) unlike other guys we actually are doing something about it, we also did the research checked the prices made sure wecould do it checked with lawyers and are doing some thing about it, granted it's not the greatest idea ever but i do beleive it is the best one ever borught up on this website(if not hook me up smootsmack) and by the way i've been drinkin tequilla all night watching the WVU game and typing on a wireless keyboard with dying batteries and i'm pretty surre in this long ass post i have less typos than you, but bottoms up bro, hail!

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[quote=mlmdub130;618881]were you reading here or on redskins.com? cause amazingly i think we have won over even the best of you guys here, and how coulds you not want to be a part of this, it takes no acountabilty(no one will know it was you) unlike other guys we actually are doing something about it, we also did the research checked the prices made sure wecould do it checked with lawyers and are doing some thing about it, granted it's not the greatest idea ever but i do beleive it is the best one ever borught up on this website[B](if not hook me up smootsmack) [/B]and by the way i've been drinkin tequilla all night watching the WVU game and typing on a wireless keyboard with dying batteries and i'm pretty surre in this long ass post i have less typos than you, but bottoms up bro, hail![/quote]

Excuse me?

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[quote=SmootSmack;618883]Excuse me?[/quote]

He said hook him up with the best ideas ever brought up on the 'Path. That's relatively easy ain't it? hahaha.

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[quote=mooby;618885]He said hook him up with the best ideas ever brought up on the 'Path. That's relatively easy ain't it? hahaha.[/quote]

yeah in the words of monday night football C'MON MAN, you are always on the spot with the stats

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[quote=mlmdub130;618881]were you reading here or on redskins.com? cause amazingly[B] i think we have won over even the best of you guys here[/B], and how coulds you not want to be a part of this, it takes no acountabilty(no one will know it was you) unlike other guys we actually are doing something about it, we also did the research checked the prices made sure wecould do it checked with lawyers and are doing some thing about it, granted it's not the greatest idea ever but i do beleive it is the best one ever borught up on this website(if not hook me up smootsmack) and by the way i've been drinkin tequilla all night watching the WVU game and typing on a wireless keyboard with dying batteries and i'm pretty surre in this long ass post i have less typos than you, but bottoms up bro, hail![/quote]

I don't know how true it is that you have "won over" anyone. Seems like most people's opinions have stayed the same through this thread. Granted there is a lot of discontent, and you give an outlet for that. But I don't see a lot of posts that say, wow, I thought this was stupid, but now I think its a great idea.

Feel free to count me as one who sees this as a bad idea.

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i cant believe this retarded thread is still going....

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I am still not sure how this completely retarded. If it garners national media attention, then that is good IMO. Can someone make an argument how that is bad?

I would love to see Snyder directly respond to what the fans have been saying. Not some COO henceman and Vinny constantly deny reality and blaming everything on the Washington Post lol....

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and dont give me the "there are better causes" bs. Its BS because next time you go to a bar or by something beyond the bare necessities, I can turn that same argument against you all and say that money is better spent helping poor kids in Africa.


I dont buy it.

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[/quote][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]People are making t shirts, writing blogs, mailing their fan cards in, planning to travel to Atlanta with signs, not buying skins gear, saying they are gonna give up their season tickets, skipping games, and so on and so on. People have had enough! Blame Danny, or Vinny, or Jimmy, but if you don’t do anything right now blame yourself next year.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

So you're saying if I don't give you money its my fault if the skins suck next year.

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[quote=RedskinMike;618942][/quote][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]People are making t shirts, writing blogs, mailing their fan cards in, planning to travel to Atlanta with signs, not buying skins gear, saying they are gonna give up their season tickets, skipping games, and so on and so on. People have had enough! Blame Danny, or Vinny, or Jimmy, but if you don’t do anything right now blame yourself next year.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

So you're saying if I don't give you money its my fault if the skins suck next year.[/QUOTE]

Why you trying to mess up our Redskins? Hater! :)

I don't think any really bad (or good) will come out of this. It just is what it is. Upset fans protesting...in a unique way. I suppose if Snyder was truly evil (not Hitler evil, just football evil) he could say screw all this, I'm taking this team elsewhere. But I'd be shocked if he did

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[quote=dmek25;618935]i cant believe this retarded thread is still going....[/quote]

Thanks you.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;617978]So this thing is on pace to fall 2K-3K short of the goal unless the MLM guys put up the rest on the deadline.

They say the weekend box office revenues of Hollywood movies halve with every week the movie is released. This will probably lose steam and even fall short of the current pace it's on.


It's still pretty cool that you guys got a segment on the news though.[/quote]
and even cooler that the both post the same thing back to back and sometimes twice in a row haha

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;618200]

I would hope that if they do raise the $8000 they would take a minute and reflect on the outcome they want and see what actions they could do that would possibly sway the momentum in that direction, rather than blindly say this is what we are doing. Isn't that the same philosophy as DS? I said it, I'm doing it, results be damned.

mImpetert gets a lot of credit for taking this on, and I hope that it will be something he will remember positively for the rest of his life. Kudos to him and his team for that. I just hope the results, intended and unintended, don't end up hurting the Skins in DC.[/quote]

Agreed, I think that they rushed into this idea and momentum keeps them thinking that it's the right message.

Props for doing something and getting the coverage though. A clever website could've gotten the same coverage likely.. or a little guerrilla marketing around DC

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[quote=mlmdub130;618304]again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more[/quote]
I thought that he bought some of the minority stakes?

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[quote=SmootSmack;618883]Excuse me?[/quote]
You heard him, make a play

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[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]People are making t shirts, writing blogs, mailing their fan cards in, planning to travel to Atlanta with signs, not buying skins gear, saying they are gonna give up their season tickets, skipping games, and so on and so on. People have had enough! Blame Danny, or Vinny, or Jimmy, but if you don’t do anything right now blame yourself next year.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/FONT][/SIZE][/quote]

So you're saying if I don't give you money its my fault if the skins suck next year.[/quote]
don't forget to make a shirt

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[quote=tryfuhl;618974]I thought that he bought some of the minority stakes?[/quote]

Snyder and his family own 65%

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[quote=SmootSmack;618980]Snyder and his family own 65%[/quote]
yeah after he bought zuckerman's share right?

wasn't this back in 99 or 2000?

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[quote=SmootSmack;618943]
Why you trying to mess up our Redskins? Hater! :)

I don't think any really bad (or good) will come out of this. It just is what it is. Upset fans protesting...in a unique way. [B]I suppose if Snyder was truly evil (not Hitler evil, just football evil) he could say screw all this[/B], I'm taking this team elsewhere. But I'd be shocked if he did [/quote]

I didnt want to post this because i know how easily people get offended around here but:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Q86Tu9ZHo]YouTube - A meeting of the Redskins front office[/ame]

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[quote=hooskins;618938[B]]I am still not sure how this completely retarded[/B]. If it garners national media attention, then that is good IMO. Can someone make an argument how that is bad?

I would love to see Snyder directly respond to what the fans have been saying. Not some COO henceman and Vinny constantly deny reality and blaming everything on the Washington Post lol....[/quote]
lets say for the sake of argument you reach your monetary goal. now you work a deal to have your voices heard, via the buses. the media grabs it, and runs with it. now what? Snyder is definitely not going to change because of the ads. and you just wasted a bunch of money.

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[quote=dmek25;618989]lets say for the sake of argument you reach your monetary goal. now you work a deal to have your voices heard, via the buses. the media grabs it, and runs with it. now what? Snyder is definitely not going to change because of the ads. and you just wasted a bunch of money.[/quote]
if you ask me it'll fizzle out by the time the money is ponied up

the media has already grabbed the story... it's going to likely take several more weeks to get the money and by then.. whatever

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[quote=tryfuhl;618992]if you ask me it'll fizzle out by the time the money is ponied up

the media has already grabbed the story... it's going to likely take several more weeks to get the money and by then.. whatever[/quote]


Why couldnt they just say "hire a Gm" or "Fire Vinny"

Also why do they insist to call him Danny Boy. You think by saving $8,250 and calling him Danny Boy that he's going to take you seriously?

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[quote=mlmpetert;618988]I didnt want to post this because i know how easily people get offended around here but:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Q86Tu9ZHo]YouTube - A meeting of the Redskins front office[/url][/quote]

Well I know that's in jest. Some people I think actually believe Snyder is the equivalent of Hitler

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[quote=tryfuhl;618987]yeah after he bought zuckerman's share right?

wasn't this back in 99 or 2000?[/quote]

Yeah Zuckerman just helped the sale go through then he sold his share to Drasner and Snyder in 2000. In 2003, Drasner was gone

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does anyone know if the browns fans went thru with their show of dis-satisfaction?

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[quote=dmek25;619343]does anyone know if the browns fans went thru with their show of dis-satisfaction?[/quote]

That's not scheduled until Nov. 16 for their Monday Night game against the Ravens

Some interesting comments from their owner

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/11/browns_owner_randy_lerner_says.html]Browns owner Randy Lerner says Mangini's job safe for now, but team will add 'serious, credible' leader | Cleveland Browns - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com[/url]

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[quote=tryfuhl;618992]if you ask me it'll fizzle out by the time the money is ponied up

[B][U]the media has already grabbed the story[/U][/B]... it's going to likely take several more weeks to get the money and by then.. whatever[/quote]

our point exactly, every one takes it way to lieterally, like i have said 100 f-ing times [U][B]snyder is not goin to sell the team[/B][/U] but he has emarassed us has he not, we lets embarass him, and i think so far we have because some of the media blocks he has installed at his fortress fedex field AKA [U][B]jacke kent cooke stadium[/B][/U] so screw snyder and his henches i know they will probaly come for my tix after i put my name out there but i don't care, he can take my tickets but he can never take my fan hood, because if he does take MY tickets thats over $13,000.00 and thats far from an exageration i have 11 tix to each game and green parkin, i'm as die hard as they come that's why it's so hard to give up season tix, after waiting 9 years thats what i'm willing to do since i love the team that much

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[quote=mlmdub130;619805]our point exactly, every one takes it way to lieterally, like i have said 100 f-ing times [U][B]snyder is not goin to sell the team[/B][/U] but he has emarassed us has he not, we lets embarass him, and i think so far we have because some of the media blocks he has installed at his fortress fedex field AKA [U][B]jacke kent cooke stadium[/B][/U] so screw snyder and his henches i know they will probaly come for my tix after i put my name out there but i don't care, he can take my tickets but he can never take my fan hood, because if he does take MY tickets thats over $13,000.00 and thats far from an exageration i have 11 tix to each game and green parkin, i'm as die hard as they come that's why it's so hard to give up season tix, after waiting 9 years thats what i'm willing to do since i love the team that much[/quote]

Since you have 13K annually for tickets you don't care about, why don't you put down the residual amount if you guys come up short.

From the looks of it, it should only be a K or two. Do you love this cause that much?

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I think that the mailing in the symbolic fan card thing was pretty clever and affordable.