Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

No way I'd take Mccoy or Bradford over Clausen or Pike..

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Give me the #7 from ND.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=TheBigDaddy;619023]6. Tebow, Florida

The current line is in shambles and it is unlikely that FO will fix it as it has been ingnored for years. And DS will not spend a #1 on an OFFLineman.
Not enough payback in marketing sales. (That's just an opinion)

But if the CAP is removed for 2010, JC might still be around.[/quote]

So we shouldn't try to grab a good QB because the FO will never fix the O line? Even more reason to draft a QB if you ask me. Good QB behind a shitty O line is better than a shitty QB behind a shitty O line.

They need to trade someone to get more picks... maybe Cooley. If they can get another 1st round pick, they should take a QB and Tackle in the first round, and add more O linemen and get a RB. The entire D is fine, the Receivers are fine. O line, QB and RB. and get rid of the "win now" mentality and put together a 3 year plan to rebuild.

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Our problems wont be a quick fix, lets build the Oline and get a RB inthe draft and we can draft a new QB after this draft which im not really sold on any of the big name QB's coming out.

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[quote=Chico23231;618645]Bulger would be a great pick up. I would consider us very lucky to get him. It should not take too much to get him. Mid round QB pick sounds like a plan as well.[/quote]

Bulger has been sacked more than a sack of grocerys over the last 3 yrs. He's been beat up and misses games. Not sure we want him for our team. If the Redskins fix the O-line than maybe Bulger could succeed.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=DBUCHANON101;619058]Our problems wont be a quick fix, lets build the Oline and get a RB inthe draft and we can draft a new QB after this draft which im not really sold on any of the big name QB's coming out.[/quote]

I expect, especially if a lot of the underclassmen QBs come out this year as expected, that the 2011 draft will be a better year to draft an OL than a QB. That's why (well, one reason why) I'm more for taking a QB at the top of this year's draft.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

maybe draft thad lewis late in the draft, from duke. best qb in the acc, and thats a vt alum sayin that.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Big C;619099]maybe draft thad lewis late in the draft, from duke. best qb in the acc, and thats a vt alum sayin that.[/quote]
Go DUKE!

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=dblanch66;619124]Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.[/quote]

Tebow will not make it in the NFL get Pike

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[quote=dblanch66;619124]Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.[/quote]
What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?

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[quote=tryfuhl;619262]What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?[/quote]

what makes him different is his toughness as a runner. probably the main reason people think he would be a good fullback or tight end. you dont see too many qbs being projected to either of those positions. anyway, i think he will be a success in the pros not for his running, which is a compliment to his other skills or will be in the pros at least, is his determination, smarts, and he does have a good arm. he just doesnt run a pro-style offense by any means. he is the kind of player that will never accept failure, which is why he will be a success. he has the talent to back that desire up.

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I like Tebow, really, I do..........

I think he will make a decent backup, and shoot, after 4 or 5 seasons, he might get his crack at being a starter, and he might be a little bit better than mediocre, depending on the teams situation more than anything.

But let me say this. Love the guys fire, love his passion. But if you think for one second you can "Will" yourself to win in the NFL, you are sadly mistaken. I'd like to see him yell and scream and act completely unhinged on the sidelines of the NFL, you'd be having prima donna WR's laughing in his face, and old hard nosed lineman trying to keep from laughing. Dont get me wrong, like I said, I love his passion, but that shit dont work like that in the pros. That intangible that people are making out to be a huge deal with this guy is overblown, and in the end, amounts to a big pile of amoeba shit. Nothing.

Saying all that, I wouldn't mind the skins picking him up if he falls below the 4th round. But anything higher than a 5th is a waste of a pick.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;619262]What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?[/quote]


The real problem with Tebow is that his release makes Campbell look like Dan Marino. He's an NFL backup at best.

I don't see anyone in college that lights my fire right now.

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The thing about Tebow is he will not be able to run in the NFL like he does now, so with that being taking out of his game, do people really trust him to sit back there with his arm and make play after play? F no, that big a$$ wind up is gonna picked every 5 throws....Clausen or Colt are better picks. F Stafford and his shoulder. Snead looks like sh*t this year and that should matter, because the QB should be progressing in his amateur career, so forget him too.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;619262]What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?[/quote]

Can you say....Eric Crouch?

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Take the proven leader and most accurate passer....Colt McCoy!

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FYI- If texas beats Florida for the BCS championship...The danny will be all over McCoy! He won't let another franchise signal caller get away like what happened with Sanchez!

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[quote=Son Of Man;619481]FYI- If texas beats Florida for the BCS championship...The danny will be all over McCoy! He won't let another franchise signal caller get away like what happened with Sanchez![/quote]

Sanchez is no franchise signal caller.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Big C;619330]what makes him different is his toughness as a runner. probably the main reason people think he would be a good fullback or tight end. you dont see too many qbs being projected to either of those positions. anyway, i think he will be a success in the pros not for his running, which is a compliment to his other skills or will be in the pros at least, is his determination, smarts, and he does have a good arm. he just doesnt run a pro-style offense by any means. he is the kind of player that will never accept failure, which is why he will be a success. he has the talent to back that desire up.[/quote]
So he could either revolutionize the game... or become Vince Young to date?

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[quote=70Chip;619356]The real problem with Tebow is that his release makes Campbell look like Dan Marino. He's an NFL backup at best.

I don't see anyone in college that lights my fire right now.[/quote]
He's not going to have those huge gaps to run through either most likely, especially in the NFC East.

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I'll preface this by saying I don't watch much college football. I was in a bar on Sat. evening watching Florida so of course I was focusing on Tebow.

A couple of things I noticed, he brings the ball back really low on his windup, I can't imagine the number of times he will get stripped in the NFL with that sort of motion. That's got to be fixed.

He's a gifted overall athlete no doubt. On the college level you can see where he is head and shoulders above most college defenders. But in the NFL I just don't see where his skills would make him an elite player, at least at the QB position.

Maybe you move him to another position but utilize him in the wildcat once in a while? Also, does he ever line up under center? If not that's going to be adjustment as well.

Looks like he would need some serious "coaching up" at the NFL level as far as his mechanics go if he's going to be a full time QB. I don't see how he's NFL ready right off the bat.

Just my 2 cents.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;619563]I'll preface this by saying I don't watch much college football. I was in a bar on Sat. evening watching Florida so of course I was focusing on Tebow.

A couple of things I noticed, he brings the ball back really low on his windup, I can't imagine the number of times he will get stripped in the NFL with that sort of motion. That's got to be fixed.

He's a gifted overall athlete no doubt. On the college level you can see where he is head and shoulders above most college defenders. But in the NFL I just don't see where his skills would make him an elite player, at least at the QB position.

Maybe you move him to another position but utilize him in the wildcat once in a while? Also, does he ever line up under center? If not that's going to be adjustment as well.

Looks like he would need some serious "coaching up" at the NFL level as far as his mechanics go if he's going to be a full time QB. I don't see how he's NFL ready right off the bat.

Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

Tebow > Jacob Hester > Marcus Robinson = NFL RB

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Son Of Man;619481]FYI- If texas beats Florida for the BCS championship...The danny will be all over McCoy! He won't let another franchise signal caller get away like what happened with Sanchez![/quote]
I agree with Buster, and McCoy isn't a "franchise signal caller" either.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Heres the thing with Pike, he's already gotten forearm surgery, he's very mistake prone, and his team seems to be doing as good without him as they were with him, so I'm saying no to him now, but if he performs well come senior bowl, combine, then ya I'd give him a shot. McCoy will not be a good pro QB, and Tebow I don't personally see being good, cause he's slow delivering the ball, and it wobbles/has an ugly throwing motion. Clausen needs to stay a year, because I don't think he's ready.

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I would honestly love it the Redskins traded for Vince Young and drafted the top O-lineman in the first. He's a winner. Sure you can throw at me all the stats you want about his inaccuratecy but the guy fights for his team and can win.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;619563]I'll preface this by saying I don't watch much college football. I was in a bar on Sat. evening watching Florida so of course I was focusing on Tebow.

A couple of things I noticed, he brings the ball back really low on his windup, I can't imagine the number of times he will get stripped in the NFL with that sort of motion. That's got to be fixed.

He's a gifted overall athlete no doubt. On the college level you can see where he is head and shoulders above most college defenders. But in the NFL I just don't see where his skills would make him an elite player, at least at the QB position.

Maybe you move him to another position but utilize him in the wildcat once in a while? Also, does he ever line up under center? If not that's going to be adjustment as well.

Looks like he would need some serious "coaching up" at the NFL level as far as his mechanics go if he's going to be a full time QB. I don't see how he's NFL ready right off the bat.

Just my 2 cents.[/quote]
You can count the number of times he's lined up under center on your fingers and toes, literally. His wind up, delivery, and accuracy are NOTHING to write home about. He's nothing more than a running quarterback with a bit bigger/tougher of a frame. His scream and yell and beat on his chest like an insane gorilla after every first down will NOT be part of NFL success. If he's going to have success in the NFL, it won't be with us, I don't see where people even get this notion.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;619615]I would honestly love it the Redskins traded for Vince Young and drafted the top O-lineman in the first. He's a winner. Sure you can throw at me all the stats you want about his inaccuratecy but the guy fights for his team and can win.[/quote]
so my comparison to tebow isn't too far off huh

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Vince Young? Vince Young? I would rather sign Todd Collins to a 7 year 100 mil deal than trade anything for Vince Young. Todd Collins might retire before his contract would be up, but Vince Young might commit suicide after playing here under our scruitiny...and we would be out of a draft pick!

No thanks.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;619615]I would honestly love it the Redskins traded for Vince Young and drafted the top O-lineman in the first. He's a winner. Sure you can throw at me all the stats you want about his inaccuratecy but the guy fights for his team and can win.[/quote]A winner AND a quitter! What a guy!

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Kerry Collins might be available since the Titans owner wants Vince Young to start for his team.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

pike is gonna be the best NFL qb in the draft, the rest are products of the system, minus bradford but thats a risk, but knowing vinny he will go to his roots and get clausen, but who gives an $ what qb is drafted if we don't get an o line man first, no matter who it is they are gonna be ramsey-ed to death

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[quote=JLee9718;619807]Kerry Collins might be available since the Titans owner wants Vince Young to start for his team.[/quote]

seriously? kerry fucking collins , why don't we get terrrell davis tto run the ball too

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=JLee9718;619807]Kerry Collins might be available since the Titans owner wants Vince Young to start for his team.[/quote]

I really hope your joking.

Next year our QB will either be Brennan, Woodson, Daniels, or a Draft pick.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

Christian Ponder

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[quote=CultBrennan59;619826]I really hope your joking.

Next year our QB will either be [B]Brennan, Woodson, Daniels[/B], or a Draft pick.[/quote]

Who's joking?

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;619896]Who's joking?[/quote]


He is. He has to be, that list he gave is an obvious joke.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

What about one of the young backups, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, etc. Personally, I think Leinart would be a good move if we thought we could get him for a 2nd rounder. That way, we can still draft our replacement for Samuels, and get a QB who's further ahead of the NFL learning curve than an untested rookie.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=SouperMeister;619928]What about one of the young backups, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, etc. Personally, I think Leinart would be a good move if we thought we could get him for a 2nd rounder. That way, we can still draft our replacement for Samuels, and get a QB who's further ahead of the NFL learning curve than an untested rookie.[/quote]


I wouldnt want any of those guys.

Re: Your next QB for the Skins?
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;619826]I really hope your joking.

Next year our QB will either be Brennan, Woodson, Daniels, or a Draft pick.[/quote]

No, no, no and possibly.